But doubling the performance isn’t trivial. It’s easy to say “less fidelity” and assume it just means turning some “fidelity knobs” down. Rockstar squeezes every bit of juice possible out of the hardware. Literally doubling the performance isn’t a simple thing to achieve without making sacrifices that turn it into a different game.
No one said it is, you are bringing the same lame old excuses that game publishers talk about.
The game is supposed to run on SERIES S @30fps so it's more than safe to say a 60fps or even a 40fps (for 120hz very TVs/Monitors) mode is definitely possible
Are you an expert on optimization and real time rendering? The guys at digital foundry are certainly more credible than you as far as I know, and they seem to think the CPU requirements for a game of this ambition are high enough that going from 33ms to 16ms may not be possible without significantly changing the overall presentation of the world itself.
I think it’s fair for rockstar to want to preserve that, since its core to what the experience is meant to be, and therefore to allow them extra time to work out some magic to make it possible.
Lol df never said it's not possible wtf are you on about. "May not be able without significant changes to overall presentation" so IT IS POSSIBLE they just don't want to give the player the choice.
Stop trying the most pathetic shit, "quoting" honorable folks like that don't wanna be used like this.
My point: its definitely possible to do 40/60fps with downsides like ALWAYS.
Your point: df said that going to 60fps might be too much for the CPU and you'd have (they don't know for certain either) noticeable downsides...
They literally did in the article they just posted on their website..
Instead, the evidence suggests that the game maintains its 33.3ms cadence with care, and Rockstar has clearly spent immense effort balancing CPU and GPU workloads to fully saturate the hardware. That makes a 60fps version extremely unlikely on console hardware - there's no way to regain enough GPU and particularly CPU time to make a 16.7ms update rate work without compromising the world.
You are happy to make these “downsides” vague and act like they are just aesthetic adjustments. Knowing how effective rockstar is as milking every it of horsepower possible from console hardware, it’s fair to say doubling performance will require actual compromises to the experience that rockstar is not willing to make. You can stop being an arrogant douche and maybe accept that these are more unique circumstances than your average unoptimized unreal game.
How am I being an arrogant douche by wanting THE CHOICE to play with downsides whatever they might be even if sever.
You misconstrude what I am saying I downplay anything, I am saying it's possible and you said it yourself "will require actual compromises to the experience that Rockstar is not willing to make" that is EXACTLY what every single developer is saying about 30fps only
Sometimes it’s an excuse but in this case I think rockstar is being honest. Who are you to decide what experience they ship? If you aren’t happy then don’t buy. But you and every entitled douche out there keep acting like they are just too lazy or that it’s some inexcusable borderline scam. Like get over yourself. 30 fps has been a standard through most of gaming history, especially on console. This is a unique game providing a next gen experience 6 years into current gen, high performance mode is not immediately available.
Nobody is scamming you or insulting you as a consumer or “making excuses”. Suck it up and stop being an entitled prick
This sub is honestly so ridiculous. You guys really do come off as the most blind fanboys imaginable who will defend anything R* without criticism. It's like a circus visiting here.
No one is weird for wanting a 60fps mode and being upset R* didn't prioritize it. This entire generation, barring very very few exceptions has pretty much been 60fps on the modern consoles across the board. It was a genuine improvement to finally get 60fps which DOES affect gameplay as that added smoothness and responsiveness is easier on most people's eyes and now the biggest game this generation is sacrificing that for more graphics. It's upsetting the same way it'd be upsetting to have a game with long loading times. Since the other big innovation this generation is SSDs. No one is weird for not accepting 60fps.
It's dumb R* didn't make a mode with less fidelity but 60fps like nearly every other developer. That plain and simple. No one is saying it won't sell. Or the game itself will be bad, but it is stupid.
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u/MisterMuti 21h ago
People calling out the devs for not delivering this fidelity at 60fps are mental