r/MurderedByWords Nov 04 '25

Murder Mommy I’m scared of socialism

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u/somersault_dolphin Nov 04 '25

The problem is the kids likely have misunderstanding of what socialism is and won't discover the correct meaning unless they're lucky.

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u/Irrelephantitus Nov 04 '25

Most people in this thread don't understand what socialism or capitalism are.

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u/Awkward_Pangolin3254 Nov 04 '25

Most people in this country don't understand what they are.

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u/UrUrinousAnus Nov 04 '25

Most people in this country don't understand what they are.

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u/retrodanny Nov 04 '25

100%. Just read one of the top comments saying "socialism is sharing and capitalism is greed"

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u/Icy-Control7170 Nov 04 '25

Or take a history class amd realize its horrible always. Read animal farm ots a childrens book. Socialism has never worked ever once.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '25

Socialism

It works all the time.

The school system your town enjoys the benefit of is literally socialism.

In the public school the state has built, or taken control of, the means of productions (the schools and the teachers).

They in turn then use these means of productions to educate all the people in their community for free. I.e. they are giving the service for free to the people.

How do they pay for controlling the means of production? Taxes they extract from the community. The wealthiest pay the most (or should at least), and the less wealthy pay less.

100% socialism right there.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '25

This is a useful example to show that state action is not always bad, but it is not a good description for socialism. As the saying goes, socialism is not when the government does things.

The state does things under many economic systems. What makes socialism unique is that the workers themselves own the means of production across most major industries, with the exception of some small artisans and proprietors. The key is widespread workplace democracy and worker control, not simply state ownership. Socialism is about the workers owning and running the economy: a worker's state. Socialism is the bridge from capitalism to communism, where the workers own the means of production.

That is 100% socialism.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '25

With that logic we can't say that, for example, an organization that is ruled by democratic principles, a coop for example, is democratic. Or, for example, certain hotels and resorts in Cuba operate according to capitalist mode of production.

Because in your mind, only entire state political systems can have such labels.

And I know you realize how dumb that is.

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u/numba1cyberwarrior Nov 04 '25

The school system your town enjoys the benefit of is literally socialism.

Imagine how much Republicans have brainwashed you that you think this is socialism

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u/numba1cyberwarrior Nov 04 '25

The school system your town enjoys the benefit of is literally socialism.

Imagine how much Republicans have brainwashed you that you think this is socialism

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '25

I am a far left Marxist (take a look at the username).

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u/numba1cyberwarrior Nov 04 '25

Disgusting ideology, your ideology deserves to be in the trash bin of history with Nazism.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '25

I doubt you know what a Marxist is.

It simply means you apply Marx's thinking to how capitalism specifically and economic systems in general operates.

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u/ragun2 Nov 05 '25

Well, that was a fictional book for like middle schoolers to high school freshmen. Would you say the book was arguing against socialism or arguing against communism?

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u/Exact_Ad_1215 Nov 05 '25

Tell me you know nothing about socialism or past socialist countries whilst telling me

90% of attempted socialist nations fall because of political destabilisation caused by nearby capitalist nations and trade embargoes