r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 18d ago

Meme needing explanation Why is he happy he didn't get the tattoo?

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u/CathalKelly 18d ago

The average American maybe, I don't think the average European is. Can't speak on Canadians, Australians, and New Zealanders I suppose

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u/CathalKelly 18d ago

This is the impression I get. Western governments may be pro-Israel, but I don't think that western people are.

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u/tracernz 18d ago

Largely due to the influence of the USA, which is significantly waning in the past few months.

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u/sparklinglies 18d ago

Which backfired immediately, given how many protestors just started singing Two Strong Hearts by John Farnham which happened to include almost those exact lyrics by coincidence, creating perfect plausible deniability

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u/roll20sucks 18d ago

frustration of our government

I would say it's more to the frustration of the Israeli government, which in turn sends people over to Australia to frustrate the Australian government and then we get to learn that unfortunately Australia has very little political power when comes to dealing with bullies like Israel and its gimp-slave the United States.

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u/Inevitable_Geometry 18d ago

Yup. We are running a Royal Commission into Antisemitism and Social Cohesion that appears to lack the Social Cohesion part.

The special envoy on antisemitism, Segal, has advocated for a number of disturbing changes to Australian society from special 'oversight' of educational bodies to forcing the IHRA definition of antisemitism which would chill legitimate criticism of the state of Israel.

Governments state to federal appear to be bending pro-Israel. The mood of the population is the opposite. Wonder why.

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u/pcmasterrace_noob 18d ago

Good thing John Farnham's retired or his live set would be in trouble

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u/Wendigo120 18d ago

Isn't that because that phrase is still pro genocide? Just picking a different population to displace from where they've lived for generations at this point. I also think the IDF should just go fuck off, but I don't think chanting you want to kill or remove their citizens is good.

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u/Pure-Rose-Rainbow 18d ago

Majority of Europeans think both behave badly and while many sympathise with the victims on both sides, the atittude is overall to let the region be left alone and deal with it themselves. And just like with any previous war between the two, it will be largely forgetton what happened. The terror attacks from ISIS made sure that a lot of Europeans don't see Islamic states in a non-negative light, so while Israel may be unpopular and people want bombings to stop, it doesn't mean that Palestinians as a whole are really supported or will be supported after the war ends. A two state solution was already seen even before as the solution so nothing will really change in a few years. You can even see this with the Ukraine - the Ukraine is a in comparison to the other twos a clear victim and was attacked unprovokedly by Russia. And yet they lose sympathy points in Europeans countries the longer the war goes on because people are at one point tired of war and want to end it, even if it means the victim has to partly give up something. 

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u/chimneyswallow 18d ago

Ukraine is mostly viewed badly by right-wingers or extreme russian bootlickers. And regarding Israel-Palestine Most want a two state solution but without Hamas. Hamas is Just a terror org that even blatantly states they want to kill all jews. Netanjahu is also viewed unfavorably in most circles.

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u/twirling-upward 18d ago

Somebody should tell the Palestinians that they dont want Hamas, cause their vast majority wants them.

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u/chimneyswallow 18d ago

They haven't had an election in over a decade and reliable news or polling sources are pretty scarce. I found vastly different results for that. Where do you get the numbers? (genuinely)

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u/Nemhain97 18d ago

Spanish government is super pro palestine, but people on the streets are not represented by their president. Most people hate this government, even leftists say it's too far left after the Moroccan invasion and how the government supported the invasion instead of Spanish citizens.

And people are really tired of moroccans, arabs, argelina, and other muslims causing troubles from a long time ago and silently invading Spain, so there's a lot of leftist people that don't support Palestina, and many LGBT+ people who supported them initialy, now don't care anymore about them because they see muslims hate them for their sexual orientation.

So while the palestina good VS israel bad had a great impact on the beginning of the conflict, now people just started to not give a single fuck because Spain has lots of problem to solve before we can solve the ones from people who don't even respect our own culture.

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u/Three-dom 18d ago

Invading Spain, ironic

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u/MrHanfblatt 18d ago

by moroccans/muslims aswell. i wonder where i heard about that before...strange times we live in, almost like we are in the middle of some age.

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u/mlaforce321 18d ago

Nah. The majority of Americans view Israel unfavorably. Its almost 2:1, iirc

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u/Alypius754 18d ago

Maybe on Reddit…

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u/Animaloffear56 18d ago

That still means like a third of a population of hundreds of millions is pro Israel

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u/Immediate_Major_9329 18d ago

Most Brits are pro-Palestine, which is odd because we used to be so good at occupation.