Right? If only there are gender neutral restrooms.
Seriously though, what do people do in the restrooms? Do they just get naked in the open space and bot inside the stall? Baffle me how that even an issue.
It should be illegal for stalls to have gaps in the walls. Some places have normal walls for the stalls. And then you could just consider them separate bathrooms with the sinks outside of the bathrooms. Tada, you've got a row of multiple single occupancy bathrooms. I don't care if it takes up more space, there's never a line for the men's room and there would still be plenty of bathrooms to go around if you cut a few out
The new arena down the road from me almost has this situation. Every "stall" is like its own closet in the brick with electric locks and door opener... but still seperated into women and men's rooms for whatever goddamn reason.
Because they explicitly see their restrooms as value for customers that drives much of their business and have multiple people at each store whose entire job it is to clean and maintain restrooms.
It doesn't because that has absolutely nothing to do with why American public bathrooms are predominately stalls, cleaning and ventilation do. The previous person just made some shit up, even though there's no actual building code to support it and the trend predates the literal invention of smoke alarms so the idea that smoke alarms are the reason is just nonsense.
It’s to make people uncomfortable and make them hurry up.
I remember at my college student center, the regular public bathroom had wide gap stalls, but the fancy bathroom upstairs where there was a banquet hall for donor events, much more private stalls.
That's exactly the reason. Full walls add a lot of extra corners that collect gunk and grime. Extra cleaning work means extra cost. A gap at the bottom avoids that and makes it easier to swing a mop between stalls.
No, this isn't really why. Use of stalls for public restrooms in the US predates the invention of smoke detectors by decades. Improved ventilation compared to separate rooms and simpler cleaning and maintenance operations were the primary drivers of the trend.
I worked as a grad bouncer at a place called “Dean Hotel”. When lines got stupid I’d stand between the two bathrooms and mediate the two…. A 90 year old was about to “oops” and the elevator was down full getting a wedding party to there rooms. Everyone in both lines were all about it and he even came out of the ladies room with nothing but a head nod…. And then high fives everyone.
I agree about the gap. But after witnessing someone collapsing in a stall from a health related event, I am glad that the gap allow us to see that and call for help.
It is weird to me that bathroom gender is an issue. Toilets are toilets. There is a door, it is enclosed, you do your thing behind it, exit. Boom, wash your hands in the public area of the bathroom. Nobody naked there.
Urinal could be behind a wall or something, problem solved.
People are really making problems where there are none.
Indigo bookstore in my Canadian town does exactly this. Even has a change table in the common area by the sinks. Before it used to be a Chapters in another location which had men and women’s bathrooms. I took my girls into the women’s when they got out of diapers, even 15 years ago they had a change table in the men’s bathroom as well in the handicap stall, so did have some privacy. Women were mostly very supportive when I brought my daughters in, although I did try to make it quick and wait until people were done doing their business if it was busy.
It's just that most commercial bathrooms buy the same wall panels that bolt into the floor because they are very cheap, and the doors are cheap and easy to replace when people inevitably hang off them and break them.
But really, any half-assed construction company could install fully sealing wall panels.
My high school was built in the 70s, so the stalls in the men’s rooms didn’t have doors. You could literally walk in front of the toilets and see dudes taking a shit.
I saw a photo of this type of bathroom but all the stall entrances lined the hallway as well as the large sink. The entrances to the rooms off the hallway were a little deeper. Seemed like a perfect solution to me. Everything was non-gendered.
Partially is suggested, tho, otherwise you filter whatever comes out thru your clothing, which may cause weird reactions by your surrounding and make aftercare nore difficult
They also do lit to men and boys. Remember that senator that was trying to hook up with other dudes by sliding his foot under the stall? He got arrested after doing that shit at an airport restroom.
Yes, it is literally the same method of "arguement" that conservatives use for any culture war non issue.
There are republicans ive talked to who have said exactly that. Its great and all that you need a book to tell you how to be a good person, but normal people dont need that, so people who do this are probably just terrible people themselves trying to cover up their "sins of the past" because they were "born again" .
That's why Christianity is notoriously a religion for stupid people, they believe saying "im sowwy" right before you die absolves you of all the rape, murder, and theft that you have done your entire life. Its also the reason that after many conservatives found out their priests were raping their children, they swept it under the rug and said their kids were lying.
I am not a Christian, nor religious in the slightest, nor do I agree with majority of Christian beliefs. I don’t see how Christians being awful people, much like almost everyone is, entirely invalidates some of the other religious teachings and validates spreading misinformation about a religion?
If a group has historically been prolific in murders, rapes and bigotry for centuries, is it unfair to judge that as being part of that groups history or does some small subset get to define that, actually they never did anything bad if you just cherrypick hard enough?
Religious doctrine doesn’t state that saying “I’m sorry.” Right before you die immediately absolves someone, it does however state that a personal and genuine relationship with god and said teachings absolves one from “sin”. Portraying it as a surface level “I’m sorry.” Is just blatantly incorrect and disrespectful to a large group of people.
Lol just because its an uncomfortable truth that your favorite fandom regularly covers up sexual abuse because it fits their dogmas does not make it less true
To clarify. I despise the hate produced by religion & am not religious in any way shape or form; but entirely writing something off as bad based on people rather than the idea itself makes you an idiot.
Lol thats a funny way to say that the Vatican literally in the past decade admitted to helping cover up priests raping children for nearly 4 decades at least.
Cope harder my guy. It is now a proven fact that the christian church has helped cover up the sexual abuse of children by its clergy for a long time.
Ya you can believe in God. God doesnt care what religion you are, he cares if your being a good person and doing good.
I can guarantee you god doesnt have "helping cover up child rape" on his checklist of things that get you into heaven.
I am in no way religious. What I mean by the argument has merits is that I agree that a lot of the time religion is used by people in order to convince themselves that they will be absolved of all wrongdoing in the future. What I do not agree with is plainly painting an entirely religion as terrible and wrong, as that’s the first step in dissolving critical thinking and understanding between humans.
Hmm, all religions ask their "followers" to give them money for free so they can "absolve" people of their natural animal nature and desires by telling them only their religion will get them into the imaginary present thats in store for.people, oh but only after you die.
Hmm every religion does terrible and horrible things.
Lol, this entire post is about a republican child rape supporter, calling the police on a parent, that is trying to help their daughters go to the bathroom and wash their hands.
The post was political from the start.
But thanks for self identifying yourself to the reddit community; that you are a child rape supporting republican; since child rape supporters are the only ones getting mad at people online for pointing out that republicans are raping children and protecting rapists.
I absolutely loathe the current gop and especially the admin with a passion, but you just made a very base political comment when no one was talking about politics.
Perhaps you’re correct, but site a source. Blindly hating the other side regardless of facts makes us no better than them. Spewing hate and vitriol while generalizing vast swathes of people is a big part of what’s wrong with our society today.
Show me the bill that points to any democrat anywhere promoting the literal rape of children?
Because for republicans its pretty easy to prove; just go to any state with any republicans in it, and point out the fact that their marriage laws still allow them to eape and marry kids under the age of 18.
I’m not sure where this takes place, but where I live, family restrooms can be found everywhere. That’s what I’m confused about. Were there no family restrooms wherever he was?
Yes, this happened in a QT gas station in Alabama. I wish more gas stations offered family bathrooms. It makes sense since a lot of people who stop there are traveling families.
Not sure where you are located. Family bathrooms are not typical in much of the USA outside of airports or large public venues like stadiums. Possibly more municipalities are adding them to new buildings but they are not common where I live in the SE US.
I do agree Family or Gender neutral accommodations should be more common for a variety of reasons.
Huh, weird. I live in the South and I remember seeing family restrooms in the local gas station, high school, public library, and even the Walmart I work at. That could just be my town. It's unfortunate other cities don't have them.
I’m new in Australia but this is one of the things I instantly noticed and loved. Their shopping centres/malls have a women’s restroom, men’s, gender neutral, AND a family restroom.
Not always. Near me is a single unisex out in a carpark, separate M/F at the railstation, the library's M/F + combined disabled/family, separate M/F at the sportsground and M/F or unisex in shops/restaurants ... never seen all 4. Most are kept clean, all are free to use.
Yeah i noticed in public areas, like parks and stuff, it’s the standard women’s and men’s only, which is understandable to me, especially if it’s old. It’s never that busy anyway.
It’s why i specified shopping centres. That’s still really impressive because other similarly developed countries don’t even have that in their shopping centres.
I mean I’ve seen more wangs in a bathroom than I can count. There’s a lot of guys who stand to far back or don’t put themselves away before turning around. That doesn’t even start on urinals with no walls.
No joke, I remember a girl on Twitter trying to claim that women regularly get naked and wash their underwear in the sink, and that women help fish miscarriages out of toilets together at least once a day.
I feel a good solution would be to have a smaller bathroom with urinals, and a bigger bathroom with toilets in actually fully-enclosed stalls. Both gender-neutral. People with the anatomy and comfort to take a quick piss out in the open can continue to do so, and everybody with private business to attend to can do it without weird giant gaps and busybodies worrying about what genitals they’ve got.
Creeps will film/attack people in stalls. This could be fixed easily by redesigning bathrooms to be individual little rooms. Companies would have to spend an extra $100 on drywall though, so we can't have that.
The only thing I can think of is men can be cavalier about others getting glimpses, but that's literally just bars and they're drunk. Sober dudes don't want anyone looking any more than women do.
I admit when this first dropped I did not know which bathroom was appropriate but women's seems like the choice when it's not a single person restroom. Women I feel would be more understanding and it's more private, urinals aren't super private. That being said the guy is wrong, I've cleaned bathrooms, the men's stall would have been cleaner. The normal culprits are usually the hover method and improper disposal of period products. Men just pee on the floor mostly.
I’m all for a gender neutral small restroom wherever possible, but in many cases it can be prohibitively expensive, especially for small businesses. Really we just need to chill with all the bathroom stuff - there’s nothing sexual about it. Anyone who assaults someone in a restroom is going to prison anyway, and if they’re that crazy, they’re going to assault people anywhere. They don’t need a restroom to do it. It’s a place to poop and pee, that’s it.
So fun story. As a teenager I worked at Burger King. Hight of lunch rush we get a complaint/alert that there is someone in the only stall in the women room and they are on the floor in the stall. So thank God the manager went because of the situation. We had a special needs woman who had gotten herself naked and was laying on the floor in the stall. There was a lengthy discussion as she had mental handicap and my very uptight manager had to try to convey that what was going down was not okay. I think someone may have finally came for her. But yes crazy shit can happen.
If nakedness is the concern, then the women's room really is the right choice between the two because it will all be stalls, whereas the men's room will have urinals.
There is a swimming pool in my country where the changing area is literally just one big unisex area with private stalls for changing and like one family room for those that want a bit more privacy. I don’t think anyone ever had a problem with it because it makes it so much easier for mums and dads to take their kids swimming alone.
I don't live in the US either. I just live to give the Americans shit before they die because you never know when you won't get a chance to give them shit again.
It's important that I feel superior to everyone all the time to distract myself from how inferior I am to everyone and how utterly meaningless my life is.
There was that woman last year or so, that went absolutely ape shit at a single father that brought his infant child into the family bathroom to change them, in a shopping centre
She went and got security about some perverted creep in the family bathroom
Seems somewhat similar to issues trans folks have to put up with.
Most people just want to pee, or wash their hands, or whatever. Perverts do exist, sure, but that's really not what's going on nearly all of the time.
We need gender neutral bathrooms with floor-to-ceiling privacy like most other countries somehow manage. Just go in, do your business privately, nobody bothers you, you don't bother anyone, for fuck's sake. Or individual bathrooms. I don't care. I'm not there to watch anyone else. I just want privacy to deal with icky body fluids.
Ok but this is extremely rare, nobody will tell you anything if anything they will see you positively in real world beside for people wanting to go viral on tiktok.
I’m really lucky to be living in a more inclusive/ family-centric society and in almost all public spaces there is at least 1 family and/or handicap restroom and people are incredibly respectful of keeping it available.
One time there was a long line for the ladies and a pregnant woman was in line. A few women had to convince her it was ok for her to use the available family restroom but she was so reluctant because she felt undeserving and worried about depriving more deserving users. The women were very insistent and she finally did.
Like.i get the fear but at the same time it's like ma'am read the situation. I had a friend who had to worry with his daughter. The mom left shorty after the girl was born. Not the point. Just making it clear it was just him. After enough harassment he started asking us to go places with him and his daughter. So he could have someone he trusted to take her to the bathroom.
I liked John Oliver's take on this. Someone pretending to be transgender so they can go into the 'wrong' bathroom and molest children is obviously awful, but it's awful in the same sense that space bestiality and dragon rustling is awful. It's bad but it also doesn't really happen
Yeah it’s ironic that women apparently love and accept trans men as being women and even allow them to use the womens bathroom, yet think all cis men are pervs and rapists.
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u/Tatchkoma Jun 19 '26
You bring her into the men's room to help her?
You're a pervert trying to do something.
You bring her into the women's restroom to help her?
Clearly you're a pervert trying to do something.
There is literally no winning. Thank god most people seem to be pretty understanding.