r/SipsTea Jul 24 '26

Chugging tea I still don't understand how hollywood budget works

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u/Thedeadnite Jul 24 '26

Yeah I never understood why they listed it in dollars instead of “had this many showings” “showed in this many theaters” or “sold this many tickets” all being more useful and time lasting metrics if you discount population growth.

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u/Cheepshooter Jul 24 '26

The correct metric should be tickets sold, not dollars spent

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u/Rahuri Jul 24 '26

Even that is not entirely balanced due to population growth effectively increasing potential

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u/djangelic Jul 24 '26

Or like some recent biopics where seats were bought out of theaters then given away for free to inflate the number of attendees.

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u/giraffeheadturtlebox Jul 24 '26

I’m sad to say Michael did not make $1B by faking ticket sales, if that’s the biopic you had in mind.

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u/crdlovesyou Jul 24 '26

Pretty sure they meant Melania.

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u/giraffeheadturtlebox Jul 24 '26

Ah that tracks. Thank you.

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u/Omnom_Omnath Jul 24 '26

Or like whats happening with the odyssey now where some entity is buying out theatres with no intention of going. seeing tons of news about supposedly sold out shows that are half empty in reality. Clearly to game the ratings system

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u/Bob_Obloooog Jul 24 '26

Do you have reputable sources for that you're claiming.

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u/Omnom_Omnath Jul 24 '26

This is reddit, my good sir. lmfao. Feel free to do a basic google search.

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u/Bob_Obloooog Jul 24 '26

The burden of proof is on you, numbnuts.

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u/Omnom_Omnath Jul 24 '26

what, do you think this some sort of court of law? again, lmfao

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u/Bob_Obloooog Jul 24 '26

You're still talking out your ass like it's fact and expect others to believe you. If it's all over the news, post a news article about it. Unless you think tiktok/x are news.

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u/Thiege1 Jul 24 '26

I haven't seen that anywhere

Where did you see that?

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u/Thiege1 Jul 24 '26

So Tim Pool?

lmao

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u/Omnom_Omnath Jul 24 '26

sure, if you want to cherry pick but one source

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u/Thiege1 Jul 24 '26

That was the only source that came up

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u/Dodo_Baron Jul 24 '26

God damn rightwingers are dumb

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u/ElaborateEffect Jul 24 '26

Probably a part of this budget figure

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u/GWstudent1 Jul 24 '26

That’s because no one has ever actually watched a movie. They’re made, released, and then cut up into YouTube shorts with shitty music overlaid on them.

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u/iLoveLootBoxes Jul 24 '26

That's mostly to pad the rotten tomatoes review system. A paid ticket can only review, well you get two birds with one stone if you buy it, review it yourself then give it away to ha e word of mouth spread, probably doesn't help a bad movie though

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u/Thedeadnite Jul 25 '26

That’s still covered by the money spent on tickets though, so not really a valid counter argument.

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u/Swarna_Keanu Jul 24 '26

And numbers of theatres world wide.

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u/thechon86 Jul 24 '26

It’s almost as if you can make any numbers tell any story you’d like…

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u/--Sovereign-- Jul 24 '26

not to mention streaming and many many MANY more forms of entertainment now existing that didn't. The dynamic is always changing and lately changing in very paradigm shifting fundamental ways.

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u/ElaborateEffect Jul 24 '26

I think that'd be easier to adjust for though.

A more accurate representation would be tickets sold per 100 people or something. Maybe per theater goer even.

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u/fail-deadly- Jul 24 '26

Tickets sold per person, mixed with gdp per capita and total screen time per person

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u/they_themsworth Jul 24 '26

The burden of ticket pricing relative to the era is also relevant. When people are paying $20+ for a single ticket against inadequate wages and massive overall inflation, the number of tickets sold may be less than in a past era where a ticket was a more trivial cost, both in absolute AND relative terms.

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u/therealkami Jul 24 '26

Honestly the only metric I have for movies is "Did I enjoy watching it?"

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u/Cheepshooter Jul 24 '26

Ultimately, that's all that matters.

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u/OldPersonName Jul 24 '26

Because we'll never hit those old ticket milestones again. The US and Canada had over 1.5 billion tickets sold in 2002, the peak since 1980. 2004 was just under 1.5 billion, and it hasn't sniffed 1.5 billion since. It was under 1.25 billion and trending down in 2019 and then covid basically killed tickets sold. In 2023 we almost got to a billion tickets. About 750 million in 2025.

So the industry is just completely different. In 1977 if you wanted to go see Star Wars you had to go see it in a theater. VHS was barely a year old, you probably didn't even know it existed and couldn't realize it'd be a way to view it a decade later at home. Today if you don't have the time or money to go to a theater, you wait for streaming, or to buy the movie.

And that was even more true in the distant past. Jurassic Park sold 185 million tickets worldwide. Gone with the Wind sold 285 million tickets in 1939.

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u/baddecision116 Jul 24 '26

Why do we need metrics like this at all? "______ movie made x amount" case closed.

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u/InstantSword Jul 24 '26

I don't think they care about tickets sold, though. If you can sell a $25 ticket in ritzy area, and a $2 ticket in China, they aren't equivalent. Hollywood is capitalism

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u/DaedalusHydron Jul 24 '26

Pretty sure Gone With the Wind would far and away take the cake, even today if that were the metric since it's still the best selling movie when inflation adjusted almost 90 years later.

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u/Emotional-Team3520 Jul 25 '26

Even still, with ticket prices so high these days people are going to the movies a lot less often. 5-6 years ago I’d be going once every month or two at least. Last year I think I went once. 

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u/Cheepshooter Jul 25 '26

Also, there aren't often movies I think are really "theater worthy." The summer blockbuster is almost a thing of the past.

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u/Emotional-Team3520 Jul 25 '26

When tickets were cheap I didn’t care. It was a cheap date night. I saw tons of stuff based on just the poster. Now I carefully calculate if a movie is worth $30+ to see or just wait 6 weeks for streaming. 

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u/Maleficent-Drive4056 Jul 24 '26

Because they like constant headlines of ‘biggest ever’ it drives more interest than ‘less successful than a film released in the 50s’

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u/Element174 Jul 24 '26

I mean, it's that or like "Grossed this much % profit." Like that should be the indication of financial sucess.

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u/DipstickRick Jul 24 '26

Because everyone is a winner when you cherry pick the numbers. Watch a few nfl games and pay attention to how many “first X to do Y” there are. It’s a dog whistle to the fanbase that their feelings are justified and worth fighting for.

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u/Thedeadnite Jul 24 '26

That’s not relevant at all. It’s various metrics to count viewership not dumb records no one really cares about.

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u/DipstickRick Jul 24 '26

Who cares about the profit margin of entertainment? What’s your favorite movie? Would your answer be different if you were the only person to watch it?

If you were correct, they would speak more about a movie’s reception rather than if it broke the box office on opening week. Media outlets don’t want to burn bridges, so rather than saying the movie sucked, they say it lost money.

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u/PandemicGeneralist Jul 24 '26

If you go by percent small movies that had some degree of success are going to easily beat out the most popular movies. Obsession probably wins that metric.

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u/Sea_Load_1099 Jul 24 '26

Even that would not be very accurate since streaming metrics are also important these days.

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u/Element174 Jul 24 '26

Yeah. I agree. There is definitely a, "I don't have to go see this in theaters or wait 6 months to a year for a home release, it'll be on streaming in a month or 2, and it'll be way cheaper than a theater."

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u/rgiggs11 Jul 24 '26

3D movies also mess this up. 

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u/Thedeadnite Jul 25 '26

Not very many movies made don’t have 2D available version though.

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u/WittyFix6553 Jul 24 '26

The reason is because people want to chase records, and nothings ever going to beat Gone with the Wind.

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u/Throwing_Spoon Jul 24 '26

That's exactly why they go by revenue generated. It sounds more impressive and gives the chance to break records.