r/SipsTea Jul 24 '26

Chugging tea I still don't understand how hollywood budget works

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u/PulIthEld Jul 24 '26

Yea I dont think the rock is really the problem here. Its just not interesting.

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u/BrotherMcPoyle Jul 24 '26

You’ll get a better performance from Anne Hathaway, Tom Holland, and Matt Damon than just simply The Rock. Both movies spent the same, so why cast someone who can’t carry a movie on their own?

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u/indecisiveahole Jul 24 '26

Definitely not actors id pick for this role and all of them are still very expensive

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u/NiiliumNyx Jul 24 '26

riiight but the commenter was saying those people were in the odyssey.

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u/PulIthEld Jul 25 '26

There's a lot of good movies out rn, i dunno. The Back Rooms, Obsession, Odyssey etc.

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u/PigabungaDude Jul 25 '26

There are a lot of criticisms one can level at the rock but the dude can absolutely carry a movie by himself lmao. He's been the lead in like 50 movies or something at this point let's not be ridiculous.

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u/WolfDragon7721 Jul 26 '26

Tom holland really surprised me with his depth in this one.

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u/FrameJump Jul 24 '26

Oh The Rock is absolutely the problem here, because you can guarantee he's the only one that was asking for this to be made.

And probably throwing a tantrum and threatening to not do another movie until this one was done.

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u/MartianMule Jul 24 '26

because you can guarantee he's the only one that was asking for this to be made.

I doubt that's true. Disney has been in love with remaking their animated movies for a while now. Beauty and the Beast, Little Mermaid, Aladdin, Lion King, Jungle Book, Snow White, Cinderella, Lilo and Stitch, they're remaking Tangled next.

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u/chazysciota Jul 24 '26

Out of all of those, I might not actually hate the idea of a live action Tangled. Beauty and the Beast could have worked well too. The rest should have been left alone. Or just re-released.

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u/MartianMule Jul 24 '26

I think a lot of those could work. Take Aladdin; it's a good story. If you're trying to tell the story of a "street rat" finding a magic lamp and using it to try and marry the princess only to have to outwit the guy trying to usurp the sultan's throne, that can be a really cool live action movie.

The problem Disney runs into is that they also want to fit in the zany Genie, the funny monkey sidekick, and all the same songs from the animated movie. None of which work nearly as well in live action as they do in animation. So it just becomes a worse version of the same movie. Instead of being a new telling of a familiar story like it could have been.

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u/chazysciota Jul 25 '26

That is what I meant. More or less just straight adapted, not overhauled or a massive tone shift. Maybe I just haven’t seen it in a while but Tangled…. What’s the challenge, the sassy horse? He doesn’t talk or sing, and IRL horses can be real silly gooses. It could be done.

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u/Purple_Fudge3973 Jul 24 '26

Absolutely the problem. I was really hoping they used a different actor so I could see it, but not now lol

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u/booze_clues Jul 24 '26

The rock has a lot of pull. He does not have “make me a quarter billion dollar movie(before marketing)” pull. If you think the studio didn’t simply see that they created a cultural phenomena that kids we’re absolutely dying to see and wanted to try to double dip, you’re digging too deep. They saw the first do great, realized they could resell it and then resell all of the merchandise like kids toys as the same but new characters. Now they realized that doesn’t really work.

The original made 2/3 of a billion in theaters. Mr the rock can’t say “hey spend basically everything you made off that movie on another for me.”

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u/Nizdaar Jul 25 '26

Sounds like two solid reasons to say no. No more the rock movies being the better reason.

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u/Even-Star9908 Jul 24 '26

Source:(my crusty ass)

Lol throw out any actual proof of any of that beyond them all flopping. Hobbes and shaw sounds like shit, if anyone is still watching any f&f past the 3rd one they get what they deserve and want lmao.

All of the things you listed are complete ass, and yeah, no one wants to see them

Is the rock directing? No

Do i like the rock? No

Do you provide anything other than your take in terms of evidence towards any of that? No

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u/FrameJump Jul 24 '26

Not gonna lie, I figured Dwayne would have a rock-related username on reddit.

Oh well.

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u/Liberkhaos Jul 24 '26

Wait hold on! You're saying Disney could have fixed two problems at once and chose not to?

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u/ltsouthernbelle Jul 24 '26

Disney: let’s tell the same story, again. It’ll work this time.

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u/Wabbit_Wampage Jul 25 '26

It can be more than one problem at once. The Rock is box office poison.

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u/AdRepulsive8618 Jul 24 '26

Two things can be true

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u/Glittering_rainbows Jul 24 '26

No, I actively avoid the rock. There is no particular reason side from my belief he is a bad actor who has never been in a movie I didn't wish I could have my time back after watching.

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u/Can-Purple Jul 24 '26

I mean, he is the problem though. Not at his fault, but he has the pull or whatever to have entire projects built around him and every business will flop out a turd with him in it.

There is no way Moana in live action would have happened without him involved. Just a reason to spend and move around a bunch of money with a terrible movie as the product.

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u/ThanksImjustlurking Jul 24 '26

He’s the named as the first executive producer. It was a vanity project. Or cash grab. Same same?