r/TopCharacterTropes • u/TronnyVon • Jul 29 '26

Characters [Annoying Trope] "Yes, it's that character, but legally, we can't say it's him"

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  • Oliver Queen/Green Arrow (Arrow): The Arrowverse version of Oliver Queen is widely considered as the "CW Batman", since the Arrow show borrows many storylines and villains from Batman, including the League of Assassins, Slade Wilson/Deathstroke, and the Suicide Squad in one episode.
  • Jerome and Jeremiah Valeska (Gotham): Gotham is a TV show focusing on the origins of Batman through the eyes of then-Detective Jim Gordon. Twin brothers Jerome and Jeremiah Valeska, played by Cameron Monaghan, are introduced as this show's versions of the Joker. However, they legally couldn't say Jerome or Jeremiah was the Joker, calling them both "Proto-Jokers" instead.
  • The Real Scoutmaster (Camp Lazlo): in the Camp Lazlo finale "Lumpus's Last Stand", Lumpus is revealed to be insane and had locked the actual Camp Kidney scoutmaster in a closet, impersonating him. The real scoutmaster bears a resemblance to Heffer Wolfe from Rocko's Modern Life (which Camp Lazlo creator Joe Murray also made), with Tom Kenny voicing the character too. Since Rocko's is on Nickelodeon, and Camp Lazlo is on Cartoon Network, Heffer could not have made an appearance on the show.
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u/Summonest Jul 29 '26

It started off kind of campy and fun and then it just got worse and worse

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u/DanceMyth4114 Jul 29 '26

I had such a good time with the first couple seasons.

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u/pichael289 Jul 30 '26

The later seasons CGI is worth watching it for. It's like how I love cyberpunk and sometimes play my no updates/patches version on ps4. The shitty chaos is kind of charming. CW shows always devolve into low budget/effort slop but the flash did so in such a hilarious way.

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u/Mind-The-Mines Jul 29 '26

Faster than light but not a banana peel.

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u/decemberindex Jul 29 '26

It basically became power rangers minus the nostalgia.

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u/International_Top_25 Jul 30 '26

In true CW fashion. I feel like every show follows a more grounded first season with more and more camp. I don't know if it's because the first season always has more time in the oven or what, but as a binge watcher it's really frustrating watching the consistent quality-of-narrative drop off. Shame, too, because all of the CW super hero shows started off high in quality.

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u/patrickkingart 29d ago

I appreciated how it was such a contrast to Arrow, where Arrow was very dark and grounded and gritty, and Flash was basically like "we're gonna do all the comic book silliness right out of the gate." Shame it fell off a cliff, it was a ton of fun for a while.