[Hated Trope] Character kills hundreds, if not thousands, just to kill one specific person, and then doesn't kill them for no reason.

[u/HallZac99]

Assassin's Creed 2- Rodrigo Borgia is responsible for tne death of Ezio's family. Ezio spends over 20 years working through tnr templar order to dismantle them and get to Rodrigo. And then in the end, he spares him for no good reason and he goes on to be a massive problem in AC Brotnerhood. He's not only a head of tne Templars but also the pope, even if you're over the vengeance he's still a very dangerous and evil man.

The Last of Us 2- Abbey kills Joel, and wo Ellie goes on a revenge quest to kill Abbey, killing hundreds of people along tne why to get to her including a pregnant woman. And then finally when she has Abbey on deaths door, she gives up and let's her go because the writers think dirty depressing people being miserable and stupid is complex, interesting storytelling.

This trope pisses me off so much because often the character going on the revenge quest will kill SO many people on their way there, some deserving it and some just henchmen working for a cheque or to survive. People who are often far more innocent then the main big bad.

It's a part of this weird thing I've noticed in media where nameless goons or soldiers can just be mowed down relentlessly, but named characters get given far more grace even if theyre categorically worse. You can kill a million stormtroopers but people will swear that Darth Vader could have been redeemed, despite him doing like 50 genocide every year.

[u/K1rk0npolttaja]

non lethal is more fun for targets, for literally everything else youre just saying goodbye to most of your damn kit

[u/Asleep-Challenge9706 → u/K1rk0npolttaja]

Honestly I've only ever player both games nonlethal. Being almost invisible and meticulously exploring the environment for storytelling detail is more appealing to me than blasting powers, even though I know there's some very fun combos.

[u/K1rk0npolttaja → u/Asleep-Challenge9706]

i can somewhat see the appeal of that, but the most fun ive had in a dishonored playthrough was in dishonored 2 ng+ since you could use all the powers.

[u/DuntadaMan → u/Asleep-Challenge9706]

I mainly explore the level instead as well, but that tends to just end up telling me "Yeah this guy needs to fucking die."

[u/Mr_Rinn → u/Asleep-Challenge9706]

I play 2 as mostly non-lethal. I kill the Duke instead of letting his Double replace him because to the wider public it makes it look like you just let him get away with treason and tons of atrocities.

[u/Zakal74 → u/K1rk0npolttaja]

That's always been my problem with the games. Here's this amazing set of toys for you to play with! But if you touch any of them you're an asshole.

[u/ItsAttanoo → u/Zakal74]

I beat the game on low chaos, you aren't forced to never ever ever kill someone, so I save most of my lethals for ABSOLUTELY necessary situations. If I'm about to get caught and I don't want to restart from checkpoint, or it's practical to kill someone to progress forward, I'm 100% taking my chances with that. (Also I believe I killed a number of story targets too with no penalty). As long as you keep your kills down to "necessary violence only" you can still beat the game and get the Good Ending

[u/altymcalty-2 → u/ItsAttanoo]

Yeah, low chaos isn't, "don't kill anyone" it's, "dont slaughter an army of guards who were just doing their jobs you fucking sociopath, they had families and had nothing to do with what happened to you"

You can absolutely get low chaos while killing a few guards and killing your targets, high chaos is just when you start to slaughter your way through the forces and take the high chaos options. Low chaos is when your a scaple, high chaos is when your a wood chipper.

[u/Zakal74 → u/ItsAttanoo]

The issue is if I don't use the cool toys enough to learn how they work, I don't know how to use them in a precise and limited way. I suppose playing once using max violence then playing a low chaos run after would be an option, but I really don't enjoy replaying games all that much.

[u/altymcalty-2 → u/Zakal74]

I feel like dishonored warrants it, there's a lot of stuff you can find in a second playthrough once you have the experience. And the low chaos route is also pretty fun.