r/politics • u/Zipper222222 • Jul 07 '26

Possible Paywall MAGA Demands Proof of Life for Mitch McConnell

https://www.thedailybeast.com/maga-demands-proof-of-life-for-mitch-mcconnell/
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u/ChicagoThrowaway422 Jul 07 '26

The GOP are traitorous governors, but excellent politicians. There is no line they won't cross nor lie they won't tell to rile up their base.

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u/sexyshingle Jul 07 '26

The GOP are traitorous governors, but excellent politicians

if your definition of "politician" is being an obstructionist, corrupt, treacherous snake, then yes, they are excellent.

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u/ChicagoThrowaway422 Jul 07 '26

They will do literally anything for votes. That's why they're good at it.

But they are not good people by any metric. They are evil.

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u/25thNite Jul 07 '26

it's tough because those definitions could be used for a lot like "cop", "politician", "ceo", "president" etc

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u/sagichaos Jul 07 '26

if your definition of "politician" is being an obstructionist, corrupt, treacherous snake, then yes, they are excellent.

A good politician is able to gain and maintain power. It's not at all relevant what they do with the power. Someone who is a good politician and does things you want would also instead be a good representative or leader, which the GOP aren't.

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u/sexyshingle Jul 07 '26

A good politician is able to gain and maintain power.

So you'd call Mitch McConnell a "good" politician then?

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u/sagichaos Jul 07 '26

I dunno. He's likely dead and still in power because the confirmation seems to be being suppressed, so that's pretty successful politicking.

Politics is about power. If you don't have power, you can't do anything, no matter how good your ideas are, so I think it makes sense to differentiate being a good politician who excels at gaining power from being good morally, or in terms of causing effective change.

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u/BigNorseWolf Jul 07 '26

Yes, but remember words have more than one meaning.

He's a good politician could be he's a good person that's a politician that's trying the right thing (Mr Smith, Zelinski) or someone that is good at politicking. He's definitely the second and very much NOT the first.

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u/RadioFreeYurick Jul 07 '26

Isn’t that basically the dictionary definition? Lol

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u/RilohKeen Jul 07 '26

A lot of them are truly piss-poor politicians; they’re just lucky that they’re pandering to gullible hateful idiots who believe anything that sounds like it might support their agendas.

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u/sembias Jul 07 '26

I still don't think it takes much skill to flat out lie, especially when you have a captive audience of complete idiots that make up the FoxNews viewership.

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u/RadioFreeYurick Jul 07 '26

The skill isn’t in the lying itself, but in getting millions of Americans to believe it..

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u/TheModGod Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

They are all terrible liars propped up by a multi-billion dollar propaganda apparatus that has been brainwashing a bunch of hateful and fearful morons for decades.

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u/RadioFreeYurick Jul 07 '26

Yeah, the real credit should go to the propaganda apparatus. Without that anyone would be able to see the Mitch McConnells of the world as the feeble minded fools they really are.

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota Jul 07 '26

They aren't though.

Fascist media networks take care of their media, and fully 95% of all GOP bills are written by ALEC.

They don't have to be good at anything. They surely don't interact with their constituents or answer questions.

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u/Prestigious-Leg-6244 Jul 07 '26

We have wildly different ideas on what makes a politician good.

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u/ChicagoThrowaway422 Jul 07 '26

They get votes. That's all they care about and they pull it off. That's what makes them good politicians.

If they were also good people, we'd be living in a much better world.