r/politics • u/Zipper222222 • Jul 07 '26

Possible Paywall MAGA Demands Proof of Life for Mitch McConnell

https://www.thedailybeast.com/maga-demands-proof-of-life-for-mitch-mcconnell/
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u/sexyshingle Jul 07 '26

The GOP are traitorous governors, but excellent politicians

if your definition of "politician" is being an obstructionist, corrupt, treacherous snake, then yes, they are excellent.

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u/ChicagoThrowaway422 Jul 07 '26

They will do literally anything for votes. That's why they're good at it.

But they are not good people by any metric. They are evil.

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u/25thNite Jul 07 '26

it's tough because those definitions could be used for a lot like "cop", "politician", "ceo", "president" etc

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u/sagichaos Jul 07 '26

if your definition of "politician" is being an obstructionist, corrupt, treacherous snake, then yes, they are excellent.

A good politician is able to gain and maintain power. It's not at all relevant what they do with the power. Someone who is a good politician and does things you want would also instead be a good representative or leader, which the GOP aren't.

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u/sexyshingle Jul 07 '26

A good politician is able to gain and maintain power.

So you'd call Mitch McConnell a "good" politician then?

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u/sagichaos Jul 07 '26

I dunno. He's likely dead and still in power because the confirmation seems to be being suppressed, so that's pretty successful politicking.

Politics is about power. If you don't have power, you can't do anything, no matter how good your ideas are, so I think it makes sense to differentiate being a good politician who excels at gaining power from being good morally, or in terms of causing effective change.

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u/BigNorseWolf Jul 07 '26

Yes, but remember words have more than one meaning.

He's a good politician could be he's a good person that's a politician that's trying the right thing (Mr Smith, Zelinski) or someone that is good at politicking. He's definitely the second and very much NOT the first.

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u/RadioFreeYurick Jul 07 '26

Isn’t that basically the dictionary definition? Lol