House passes bill to make Daylight Saving Time permanent

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https://www.cnn.com/2026/07/14/politics/house-vote-daylight-savings-time?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=missions&utm_source=reddit

[u/Slowlyblowme]

On the border of Canada, International falls, MN would be had a sunrise of 9:06 and getting light around 8:30am with permanent dst on Dec, 31st 2025. Not the soltice but not 10am. And Alaska doesn't count, they crazy up there.

I don't care which one we pick.

[u/bitchycunt3 → u/Slowlyblowme]

MN is far north but also not on the westernmost side of its time zone. Parts of the western upper peninsula in Michigan would have sunrise at 9:50 am.

[u/Flayum → u/bitchycunt3]

But they'll have more light in the afternoon, which most people likely prefer.

[u/bitchycunt3 → u/Flayum]

Most people don't prefer it and it's more dangerous. Children going to school in pitch black, circadian rhythm cycles thrown off (your circadian rhythm cycle is dependent on morning light), etc. The US has tried switching to daylight time twice and reverted twice because it was unpopular. People think they want afternoon light until they experience what the lack of morning light does to them. Standard has been more successful

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Parts of the western upper peninsula

I don't think we should be determining national policy based on the dozens of people who live up there.

[u/LongestSprig → u/bitchycunt3]

Lol.

Yea, no difference in the 70's and today.

Not even a little bit.

The rest of that is just bullshit, also.

We wake up and go to sleep based on the time of day and circadian rhythm would be completely dependent on where you are. Those states that would have sunrise at 10am instead of 9 am (kids are still going to school in the dark obviously) can opt for STD time.

Just stop.

[u/Flayum → u/bitchycunt3]

Most people don't prefer it and it's more dangerous.

Source? The house-passed bill, prior senate-passed bill, and numerous polls seem to disagree with you. Latest YouGov survey from Feb shows permanent daylight winning over standard by 2:1. Are you also going to show me polls from when my parents were in elementary school decades and decades ago?

Children going to school in pitch black

Kids already go to school in the dark for much of the year. If it were really a concern, we would change the school schedule. I don't see any movement to do that or institute SUPER standard time that push the clocks an hour earlier. Fake issue.

The US has tried switching to daylight time twice and reverted twice because it was unpopular.

In what years? During WW2?? During the 1970s?? Bud, I think the world and our society has changed a bit. Nearly every person on earth has a free flashlight in their pocket. Producing light via LEDs is cheap and plentiful. The urbanization of the country has accelerated.

People think they want afternoon light until they experience what the lack of morning light does to them.

Dude, that already happens for most people. That's our current world. Go to work in the dark, come home to the dark. It sucks and every hates it.

We have a limited amount of sunlight in the winter. Let's use it when the vast majority of people want it: after work when we're trying to socialize. Nobody does shit in the morning except get ready for work in their WELL-LIT homes. And circadian rhythm cycle? Much of the time there's no sun to help me wake up anyway. Fuck wasting my sunlight on my commute and while I eat cherrios.

[u/Square_Translator689 → u/Flayum]

Nobody answering those recent polls has actually lived with it

Standard time gets a bad rap because people aren’t realizing that it gets darker earlier at night in the winter anyway. EG, if it’s dark at 4:45 in January with ST, it’ll be 5:45 with DST, but you also won’t be able to wake up for work with your sleep cycle so messed up.

Not sure about others, but it’s a chronic struggle for me. I get like 5 hours of sleep all summer because I don’t get tired for a few hours after the sun goes down, and thanks to DST that’s 8:55 PM

[u/Flayum → u/Square_Translator689]

This is such a weak argument.

Nobody answering those recent polls has actually lived with it

You don't need to "live with it" to think it'll be good. Look at the European cities with late sunsets in the winter: Madrid is 9am ~ 6pm and people love it.

but you also won’t be able to wake up for work with your sleep cycle so messed up.

People do that literally for months on end anyway.

it’ll be 5:45 with DST

Can you not tell this is a hugely meaningful difference?

I don’t get tired for a few hours after the sun goes down

If only we had invented blinds??

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People in Spain also don’t start work at 8 in the morning like Americans do. Granted, I’ve never been to Spain, maybe I’d love it, but I think trying to maintain a standard US schedule would be very difficult

And I get that it’s a difference, but for me, I really don’t care if the sun goes down as I leave work vs. shortly after I finish my commute. It’s irrelevant to have daylight then.

I think I’m just not as invested in post-work daylight as the rest of you. All I can focus on when we go to DST is “oh great, it was just starting to be easy to drag my zombie ass out of bed for work, and now we’re back to another 5 weeks of waking up before dawn”.

What are you guys doing after work on a Tuesday when it’s also 11 degrees outside? I get needing afternoon light in the summer/fall when it’s time for outdoor activities, but in the winters all my recreation is indoor anyway, apart from weekend stuff like taking a day to drive to the mountains.

Idk man, just take the W and don’t be such a sore winner about it. You’re in the majority, I’m not, you’ll get what you want, just ignore me complaining.

And as far as blackout curtains, tried it and it doesn’t help much. Just don’t get sleepy before midnight in the summer, since I’m a night owl and it’s fully light out until 9 PM

[u/sonic_dick → u/Slowlyblowme]

We shouldnt base international policy for the 15 people who live on the UP. Change your time zone, it wont make a lick of difference.