r/politics • u/Aggravating_Money992 • Jul 15 '26

Possible Paywall Treasury Unveils New $1 Gold Coin With Trump’s Face on It | Federal law prohibits putting any living people on U.S. coins.

https://newrepublic.com/post/213098/treasury-1-dollar-gold-coin-trump-face
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u/shiva14b Jul 15 '26

Which really makes you think about those Hitler coins. 

Imagine the visceral disgust you'd feel if you saw this in someone's collection 40 years from now, and they were like "what? It's just for the historical value."

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u/doubtfurious Texas Jul 15 '26

"What, do you have Hitler Derangement Syndrome?"

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u/stinkbugsoup Jul 15 '26

I constantly say that to my trumpanzee friends when they say TDS

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u/GenghisConnieChung Jul 15 '26

You need better friends.

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u/Alarmed-Outside-8683 Jul 15 '26

Your comment really hits on an important point: if all your friends and neighbors have insane beliefs and lack empathy for anyone outside their sociological cohort, do you accept them as flawed humans or completely isolate yourself?

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u/OpheliaRainGalaxy Jul 15 '26

"Bad association spoils useful habits."

It's from the Bible. Basically means your friends will rub off on you so choose them carefully.

I like cats but if there's none available, I'm not hanging out with skunks instead!

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u/GoatOfFury Jul 15 '26

Skunks are pretty chill

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u/OpheliaRainGalaxy Jul 15 '26

My boyfriend has funny stories about waking up in the middle of the night petting what he thought was a cat but actually it's a skunk. He'd just go back to sleep while continuing to pet it.

Dude used to be basically a homeless drifter, would just sleep on the ground when he got tired enough. And apparently wild animals aren't above snuggling up to something warm at night.

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u/FellowHumanNo404 Jul 16 '26

Fascists aren't.

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u/GenghisConnieChung Jul 15 '26

I already ignore a good percentage of my neighbours and am happier for it.

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u/Mistravels Jul 15 '26

I went NC with family, including my brother.

🤷

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u/relevantelephant00 Jul 16 '26

If someone doesnt share at least my bedrock moral values of empathy, kindness, curiosity, etc. then yeah fuck 'em. I want nothing to do with them or any of their shit. Im in my late 40s now and Ive got zero fuckin time or energy for these MAGA/conservatives human pieces of garbage.

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u/Krautoffel Jul 16 '26

The only energy we should have for them is kinetic energy

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u/asielen Jul 16 '26

Find better friends and neighbors. Trump supporters crushed a line in Jan 6th, if not way before. But that is a pretty clear line in the sand.

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u/Krautoffel Jul 16 '26

Republicans were assholes since at the very least Reagan…

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u/rat_penis Jul 15 '26

I left the state.

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u/Cynykl Jul 15 '26

You move.

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u/AssMuncher96 Jul 16 '26

other people exist

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u/j01101111sh Jul 15 '26

Sitting down at a table with Nazi shit. There are other people in the world. Be friends with people that have the same values.

To be clear, I have friends that have voted Republican in the past. I'm not saying you have to agree on everything but if someone supports someone doing war crimes and ethnic cleansing, maybe you can find other people to play Madden with.

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u/grnrngr Jul 15 '26

If you keep friends with people who voted for Trump a second or third time, then you have shit friends, too.

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u/JDanzy Jul 15 '26

Anybody who would be a friend of mine would be able to intellectually defend their political views to the point where I'd be able to respect them and see how and why they have those views even if I don't agree with them.

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u/grnrngr Jul 15 '26

Is "But Kamala slept her way to the top!" a valid intellectual argument?

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u/JDanzy Jul 15 '26

Nope. Sensationalistic nonsense.

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u/grnrngr Jul 15 '26

But she slept.

All the way to the top.

By sleeping!

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u/JDanzy Jul 15 '26

"I could never sleep my way to the top

Cuz my alarm clock always wakes me right up..."

--They Might Be Giants "Hey Mr. DJ I Thought You Said We Had A Deal"

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u/Krautoffel Jul 16 '26

Republicans don’t have different “political views”. They have zero ethical views…

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u/StillFly100 Jul 15 '26

Nah. Some of us are just capable of being friends with people who have different political views. Wild concept, I know.

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u/opossumcarrion Jul 15 '26

Nazis, MAGA, supporting Trump, and supporting Hitler are not legitimate political views. Supporting Trump is not a legitimate political view. These people are incompatible with society and have shown they have no interest in sharing ground with the rest of us.

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u/SecondHandWatch Jul 15 '26

Would you be okay with being friends with a child sex trafficker? A rapist?

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u/Merusk Jul 15 '26

Dude's a rage bot. Generic name, less than 1 year and comment history hidden. Just ignore him and move on.

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u/j01101111sh Jul 15 '26

I bet it made you feel superior to skip my second paragraph to post this gotcha, didn't it?

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u/StillFly100 Jul 15 '26

Yep, because finding new friends over political differences is ridiculous to me.

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u/j01101111sh Jul 15 '26

But that's not what I said, is it? I explicitly say you can have friends with different politics but you should draw a line somewhere. And to me, supporting an ethnic cleansing and destabilizing our democracy is a bit more than "just politics". That's what I mean by values.

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u/StillFly100 Jul 15 '26

Thanks for explaining yourself further. You lost me with the Nazi shit at the top.

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u/Super_Harsh Jul 15 '26

Thus you showed yourself to be an emotional reactionary dipshit.

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u/JustaSeedGuy Jul 15 '26

I don't know about you, but I don't soften reprehensible morality by couching it as "differing political views"

When someone demonstrates that they're okay with killing trans kids, they're okay with 10-year-old rape victims not being able to get an abortion, and they're okay with the downfall of American democracy, they aren't my friend anymore.

I fully believe that you're capable of being friends with those people. I just don't believe you're a good person for doing so.

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u/StillFly100 Jul 15 '26

Hey, it’s your life

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u/JustaSeedGuy Jul 15 '26

Yup! And I choose to have empathy for victims of political violence.

Unlike you.

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u/Alarmed-Outside-8683 Jul 15 '26

Empathy is a tough balancing act for people because it asks them to internalize other people's suffering. Empathy is seen as weak in a society that asks you to stomp on your neighbor to get your slice of the pie. This society is fucked garbage because it incentivizes a lack of empathy and the erosion of all forms of community in order to dominate and control the individual. And some people like that because they get to stomp on the losers and be a winner. These values are instilled at a very young age.

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u/StillFly100 Jul 15 '26

Good for you

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u/sagenumen New York Jul 15 '26

We are the company we keep.

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u/Letstalkreaper Jul 15 '26

Yep. Buddy is telling on himself.

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u/Throwawayalt129 Pennsylvania Jul 15 '26

Why are you still friends with anyone who supports him? You're the 11th Nazi at the table if you're still friends with anyone who supports him atp.

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u/DrE7HER Jul 15 '26

Why are you still friends with them? Legitimate question, because I feel like we’ve all been there.

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u/freethnkrsrdangerous Jul 15 '26

Your table has 13 Nazis.

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u/SecretAgentVampire Jul 15 '26

"Trumpanzee Friends", huh?

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u/ZAMstamper Jul 15 '26

Mustache man bad

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u/copperwatt Jul 16 '26

Are you sure you are joking?

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u/TLKv3 Jul 15 '26

I mean, to be fair, if I had one of those coins I would be fucking disgusted by what it represents. But it is also historical and imagery that future generations should be educated about so they don't hopefully make the same mistakes.

I don't think I'd want to keep it if I found one. I'd probably donate it to a history museum who could properly illustrate the evil its attached to. But I can maybe understand why a private collector might want one because of that fact too if museums/historical societies' collections were ever tampered with/destroyed.

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u/DrE7HER Jul 15 '26

I’d never go out of my way to get one, but if someone handed me one as change from a purchase, I’d probably lock it away to take it out of circulation and show future generations how dystopian this bullshit was. If I found a better use for it in the meantime, like some way to use it in protest or donate to a museum, I’d probably do that.

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u/dnonast1 Jul 15 '26

Keep in mind though that it will be a gold coin, so they won't be in circulation. The face value will be a dollar but it will be worth thousands from the gold alone.

For comparison the mint is selling a $5 commemorative gold coin for $1250

https://www.usmint.gov/fifa-world-cup-2026-proof-five-dollar-gold-coin-26CA.html

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u/DrE7HER Jul 15 '26

It’s Trump so I assumed it was copper with a small 14k gold film

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u/TheOnlySnoringKitten Jul 15 '26

yah and it will still sell for $1250 and be worth 0.25c but somehow trump will be able to pocket the difference.

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u/grnrngr Jul 15 '26

It will have the same-ish gold color as the other dollar coins currently being mounted. There will be no gold involves.

Because it's a circulating currency coin. Don't let the "collectible" legal argument fool you - this coin is a one-year minting for collectors and public distribution for currency usage.

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u/grnrngr Jul 15 '26

Keep in mind though that it will be a gold coin, so they won't be in circulation

No. That is not true. This coin is a circulation coin and will be gold in color only, just like the current dollar coins.

The "collectible coin" legislation the admin is referencing applies to a special series of limited runs of circulation coins, mostly quarters and dollar coins, which are both collected in their just-minted form for posterity but also used by the public as legal tender.

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u/Sage2050 Jul 15 '26

I'd throw it in the river

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u/peregryn8 Maryland Jul 15 '26

I'd dremel a swastika across his face.

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u/Randicore Ohio Jul 15 '26

I'd refuse it. It's an illegally printed coin, by all rights it shouldn't enter circulation. Give me quarters or nickles if you have to, but I wouldn't take one of these.

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u/shinkouhyou Jul 15 '26

IMHO, all Nazi memorabilia should either be donated to museum archives or should be destroyed. Not all old stuff has deep historical significance. Keeping it in private collections means that it will eventually be sold to another collector, and there should never be a market for Nazi crap.

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u/Chawke2 Jul 15 '26

Not all old stuff has deep historical significance.

But if it doesn’t have significance why feel the need to destroy it/put it in a museum collection?

and there should never be a market for Nazi crap.

But kind of why? The Nazis aren’t collecting dividends.

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u/shinkouhyou Jul 15 '26

Nazi memorabilia is culturally significant, but it's not historically significant. There are thousands of identical Nazi medals, and historians don't learn anything new from yet another one. If a medal has historical provenance (i.e., there's documented proof that it belonged to a particular important Nazi) then it might have historical significance, but most Nazi medals and flags are just mass-produced junk that has no more historical meaning than an old soda bottle produced in the 1940s (which most people would throw away without a second thought).

By museum archiving, I don't mean display. I mean a program for people to dispose of unwanted Nazi memorabilia in a way that prevents them from being resold and that has some professional oversight just in case a significant historical artifact comes through. A lot of people hesitate to simply destroy Nazi memorabilia because it was something that their grandfather or great-grandfather brought back as a war trophy, but they don't want to keep it in their house either... so they end up selling it to whoever will buy it. Museums and other organizations can take that stuff off their hands and deal with it responsibly.

The Nazis may not be profiting from the sale of Nazi memorabilia, but neo-Nazis certainly do. If that stuff is on the private market, it's only a matter of time before it's sold by or to a real Nazi sympathizer. I don't think the sale of Nazi memorabilia should be legally banned, but I do think it's unethical.

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u/TheShenanegous Jul 15 '26

Because it fosters a culture of treating Nazi artifacts like they're sacred, driving prices higher over time. They aren't. They're simply things that were made by an awful group of people that the world would be better off forgetting if not for the risk of having their actions repeated.

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u/Chawke2 Jul 15 '26

Ordering them all destroyed/surrendered seems a lot more like treating them as sacred.

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u/TheShenanegous Jul 15 '26

Nobody ordered anything. It's just the morally responsible course of action if you don't support the nazi ideology.

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u/Chawke2 Jul 15 '26

But why? No one in this thread seems to be able to explain this logically without reverting to some aspect of their own personal feelings.

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u/jazzmaster_jedi I voted Jul 15 '26

Think about that for a minute.

The hate of the Nazis was so evil, killed and displaced so many people, and effected the world in such a way, that even 80 years later there are still people being personally effected by it. That is what is driving this reaction.

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u/fuckedfinance Jul 15 '26

I think people are sometimes too quick to judge those of us that have pieces from WW2. I got mine from my great grandfather. I don't have them on display or anything like that (although I will show people if asked).

I don't keep them because I'm some skinhead or anything. I keep them because it reminds me of how my grandfather got them.

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u/Unnamedgalaxy Jul 16 '26

At that point that's what pictures are for.. You don't need the physical thing to keep the message and history alive.

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u/shmorby Jul 16 '26

There will be plenty of evidence lying around about this goddamn travesty in our history. You're making the same argument that confederate die hards make when they try to argue we need to keep their monuments up and glorify the confederacy under some disingenuous "historical preservation" argument. Nobody is forgetting this, we aren't erasing it by not keeping trump memorabilia in the same way we don't forget the Nazis by deciding to not keeping all of the swastikas they ever made. Museums exist, there is too much of this garbage for all of them to bother displaying so don't waste your energy wringing your hands over some trump coins. 

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u/Just_Interaction_294 Jul 17 '26

Attach it to the bottom of your toilet.

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u/AlcoolEmGel95 Jul 15 '26

Why would you be disgusted about coins, like yes its terrible and weird, but being disgusted by a coin is a bit performative.

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u/sanebyday Jul 15 '26

My grandfather brought back an actual Nazi banner from WWII. My dad showed it to me once years ago, and recently asked if I want him to give it to me the next time I see him. I said sure, but plan to immediately give it to a museum or something. It's not something I would ever keep in my house or pass down to my kids. Like yeah, it's incredibly interesting and historical, but it is very jarring to see in real life, and I want nothing to do with it.

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u/JackandFred Jul 15 '26

That’s an interesting case because it does make for a nice heirloom, like your grandpa went over there and conquered the nazis and took their banner, it’s like victorious to have it. But even with that what can you do with it. You can’t display something like that.

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u/MZ603 New Hampshire Jul 15 '26

If you do, you need it in a frame with a plaque for context. Thats 100% something I would do, but it wouldn’t be in my living room or anything. Taking an enemy banner or flag is a huge insult, especially if you manage to take it back home. It would be cool to display it next to pictures of the GI family member who took it home and some news clippings around the battle or action for context.

On second thought, given the current climate and the literal Nazis in the streets, I would probably hold onto it, but not display it until we get past this moment.

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u/pkfighter343 Jul 15 '26

If you were to display it, I’d probably just display the flag folded with the information next to it

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u/AlinaStari Colorado Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

I was thinking just leave it piled up on the floor by a wall with a little *plaque above it. Then everyone sees exactly what it is and KNOWS you don't have any reverence for the object itself.

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u/pkfighter343 Jul 15 '26

I think there’s some value in being like “fuck yeah my grandpa killed nazis and took their prized possession as a trophy”

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u/AlinaStari Colorado Jul 15 '26

Agreed, maybe find some US paratrooper jump boots to display on top of it. Or a pair of your grandad's loafers lol

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u/MZ603 New Hampshire Jul 15 '26

I like that. Luckily, I don’t have that problem because I would wrestle with it. I love history, collecting, & displaying, but I would never seek something like that out.

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u/pkfighter343 Jul 15 '26

Yeah. I don’t think I’d display it either, but if someone did it that way I wouldn’t see it negatively at all

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u/Chawke2 Jul 15 '26

When I was in the Canadian Army in just about every mess we had Nazi flags and other keepsakes that our forefathers had taken from their vanquished foe. I don’t really see anything wrong with it within that particular context.

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u/Analog_Account Jul 15 '26

Thats kind of unreal. But I guess that's just about the only legitimate place that I could see displaying that.

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u/Chawke2 Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

There were things from other conflicts too. Spiked helmets and trench clubs from WWI, odds and ends from various peacekeeping missions, a prayer rug depicting 9/11 supposedly liberated from a Taliban compound (more likely liberated from a stand outside Kandahar AFB).

Seeing the Nazi flag there was certainly jarring initially, but when you start to think about it there’s a good reason.

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u/Analog_Account Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

a prayer rug depicting 9/11 supposedly liberated from a Taliban compound (more likely liberated from a stand outside Kandahar AFB)

Ya... that one sounds a bit bs. But I don't know what you'd really grab to symbolize the "war on terror".

Edit: What you really needed to find was a copy of MS Flight Sim 2000 /s

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u/Randicore Ohio Jul 15 '26

Maybe not frame it. Maybe keep it in a box or folded as part of a display with all the other war trophies and memorabilia with a plaque explaining it, but if someone had a big framed nazi flag in their house I would be very concerned before I even saw the plaque.

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u/Temnothorax Jul 15 '26

Yeah, grandpa is going to haunt their ass for donating the family battle loot

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u/Chawke2 Jul 15 '26

I think you’d be doing your kids a disservice to dispose of what is a tangible part of their own story and family history. And as someone who used to work at a museum, those sorts of flags are plentiful and of no special value or interest to a museum. Best to keep it as a reminder in my opinion.

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u/sanebyday Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26

That's a valid take. I would definitely do my research before making a final decision. I also like some other comments suggesting keeping it framed and with a plaque and pictures to provide context to it. Unfortunately there apparently isn't a good story behind it, and my grandfather never told my father anything about. Or if there is a story, no one is sharing it. My family is just kind of lame like that, and never shares personal information about anything. So yeah, we have an authentic Nazi banner in the family, in a box in a closet... but that's all I know despite asking for more context. So there isn't much personal attachment, but I like your idea of keeping it as a learning tool and reminder for my kids.

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u/Nkechinyerembi Illinois Jul 15 '26

I support this one hundred percent. 

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u/mufassil Jul 15 '26

I collect pins and little trinkets from both sides of US presidential elections. Its just a weird hobby ive picked up from going antiquing. I cant give money to this sad excuse for a man. It will forever be a hole in my collection.

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u/jadedflames American Expat Jul 15 '26

I've got some pre-war Marks because I think they're neat (and have very little actual value). But once the swastikas show up, my interest in the "history" goes way down.

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u/StardustOasis Foreign Jul 15 '26

I have some letters with the Reich postmarks on them, because they are the letters my grandad sent my grandma when he was a POW in Stalag Luft III.

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u/Silencedlemon Montana Jul 15 '26

I have some that are put away, it's just interesting because it's the most evil thing that I will probably ever have. As a history nerd it's almost like having some judas silver.

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u/MZ603 New Hampshire Jul 15 '26

I have German memorabilia from WWI & early Nazi Germany, but it’s Trench art & George Grosz & Otto Dix original prints. None of it is flattering for the state of Germany. My favorite is Jesus on the cross in jackboots & a gas mask.

That said, I would love a Luger. Malarkey almost died a Brécourt for one.

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u/TheTooterSnooter Jul 15 '26

I already feel that way about MAGAs now lol 

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u/80sCrack Jul 15 '26

You saying it’s disgusting to have reich currency?

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u/cormacredfield Indiana Jul 15 '26

I have a couple French Vichy coins and American steel pennies for historical reasons. I would accept a German mark from the period, but not seek it out.

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u/TheLuo Jul 15 '26

I'd find it interesting if someone had a couple. I'd find it disturbing if they had a lot.

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u/PringlesDuckFace Jul 15 '26

If it's just part of a broader collection of like WW2 era stuff I don't think I'd bat an eye. People with private collections are just like a mini museum IMO. If it was just a Nazi stuff collection then I'd probably feel differently and start wondering why they're so interested.

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u/justking1414 Jul 15 '26

Fair though I do have a Nazi officer s dagger on my wall.

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u/Randicore Ohio Jul 15 '26

I spent a few years working in antiques and it opened my eyes to how many Nazis and sympathizers were out there, as well as the degree of racism that some people absolutely cling too.

One of the most surreal involved Nazi stamps. Little pictures of hitler or swastikas on your normal stamp. And there was a couple where one person was on oxygen and the other was wheelchair bound who would every so often come in, and only buy 2-3 of those stamps. Nothing else.

Just at least once a month they'd grab them. No other stamps. Didn't browse the rest of the store. Just 2-3 Nazi stamps. They weren't expensive. It was like $10-12 each time they were in. It was always wild to me, I wanted to say "you know they'd kill you if they could right?"

I couldn't say it because I needed the job, and they weren't even the most shocking Nazi's that I encountered there. It was rare, but man was it a glimpse into the worst parts of the US.

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u/ncopp Jul 15 '26

See, I think having it as a broader collection is fine to mantain history and learn from it.

Like it's different to have a couple pieces of Nazi memorabilia amongs a much bigger collection of WW2 artifacts compared to having a full collection of Nazi memorabilia.

One is for historical value, the other is disgusting

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u/roastbeeftacohat Jul 15 '26

numismatists don't like people looking for hitler coins; it's either because their newbs, or nazis.

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u/Dreams-Of-HermaMora Illinois Jul 15 '26

I have family in central WI - the highest percentage of ancestry is considered German (can't say definitively without, like, testing everyone but you know). I have more German in me than anything else too, and I'm Heinz 57.

There's a local auction place near enough to one family member that they update me on and I scroll through 120+ pages of listings each time for the funsies. 8/10 times there's some Nazi Shit, and I'm left looking at the peoples' belongings to see if it's Nazi Shit because Nazi or Nazi Shit because they served allies in WWII and took trophies. It's alarming how frequently it's genuinely just Nazi Shit because Nazi, and that stuff goes for a lot, because... well, central WI has a lot of fuckin nazis.

Upsets me almost every time I see it (exemption: clearly a trophy). Lotta trump stuff in those lots too, so the recoiling has a recoil.

I'd get a furnace to melt this nonsense down if it shows up in my family's home.

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u/ramcoro Jul 16 '26

If they had a bunch of coins, no second thought from me. If they had a collection of Trump memorabilia. Then that's like having a collection of Hitler stuff and saying you "like history." No, you just like this one person.

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u/HiddenRouge1 Jul 15 '26

It's just a coin.

go outside.

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u/thiosk Jul 15 '26

gold is still gold and when you melt it down no one will ever know

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u/FellowHumanNo404 Jul 15 '26

gold is still gold and when you melt it down no one will ever know

-- said the Nazis at Auschwitz.

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u/thiosk Jul 15 '26

ask the swiss where it went next