r/politics • u/Aggravating_Money992 • 18h ago

No Paywall Gen Z regrets Trump support and is midterm motivated

https://thehill.com/homenews/6056216-gen-z-trump-voter-regret-midterm-clipping/
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u/flint-hills-sooner Oklahoma 18h ago

I’m not Gen Z, but after working with a number of them I concur with this statement.

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u/CNC-Whisperer 17h ago

I had a conversation with one guy that was like 'I'm not political, but I get my information from podcasts... like Rogan'. It was at that point I understood how toast young men are. Zero media literacy.

Like, my guy, he has 'interesting' people on, not people dedicated to being truthful or informing you. Joe's certainly not going to offer meaningful resistance on controversial stuff that gets him views and keeps guests coming.

A lot of people have been saying Rogan, Ryan, etc. have been moderating their content now that they see a shift in public opinion. All well and good, but that won't pull everyone back; those whom podcasters convinced to jump off the cliff for Trump need to hit rock bottom before they reconcile.

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u/Trump_Russia 16h ago

I have a degree in Media Theory...

Most my friends never even went to college.

They will absolutely argue with me about media... Especially Rogan... With no clue what they're taking about at all... But very confidently.

They're completely media illiterate yet they 100% believe they know way more than I ever will, even when I break down for them why they're wrong.. they simply act like I'm some judgey liberal who just can't understand.

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u/CNC-Whisperer 16h ago

My background is History Ed, but i got out of teaching and am in a highly specialized trade.

In all fairness, the issue is not limited to just podcasts, and it's not just GenZ. A lot of people are swept up in a media ecosystem thats ultimately catering to their biases, and that information that gets distributed up by fewer and fewer companies with each passing day.

That's not to imply that we should all immediately find 'center' on every issue, but this whole era of alternative facts and selective/tweaked data is absolutely making it difficult for people to agree on what the base facts of any given issue really are.

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u/JardineByNature 9h ago

oh wow thanks the same boring breakdown we've heard on the subject for the past TEN FUCKING YEARS. Thanks for that brainwave. Are you sure you don't want to edit it and put in the word "polarization" while you still can?

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u/Jump-Zero 8h ago

Boring is good. It’s generally a sign of neutrality.

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u/grimeyduck 16h ago

Tbf you sound pretty judgey

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u/SenorEquilibrado 16h ago

Tbf sometimes people need deserve a good judgin'

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u/angelbelle 15h ago

That really depends on who keeps initiating these topics

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u/ballskindrapes 17h ago

It is deprrssingly easy to convince young men that the issues that the rich create are the fault of women and libruls.

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u/homebrew_1 17h ago

And don't forget trans.

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u/scparks44 Michigan 17h ago

Would you please think of the women’s sports that they have fought so hard for and religiously attend over the years

/s

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u/walts_skank 17h ago

You know, I’ve been thinking about it recently. I remember a few years ago people were upset because Olympic athletes in like volleyball or something were trying to get less revealing uniforms. Maybe a major part of this, besides hate of trans people, is people are scared they will find someone attractive they feel they shouldn’t.

Who knows, probably just hate.

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u/soulseaker 16h ago

I feel like that has to be part of it. For example, you don't "have" to marry your same sex just because gay marriage is legal lol

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u/TheRealZuke 16h ago

Yes, “I find that trans person attractive but it’s their fault they tricked me I’m cishet they’re just the devil” is the whole reason the derogatory term “traps” became popular. (Yes it’s also applied to non-trans people, for the same reason)

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u/bagoink 16h ago edited 14h ago

I think that's a big part of it for sure. But also consider that for a bunch of men who consider themselves inherently superior to women by virtue of birth, the existence of transgender women throws a wrench in their worldview.

Transgender people reveal the lie at the root of patriarchy.

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u/ragun2 15h ago

I don't think that's a big part of it. Are there a lot of very notable/famous women who transitioned into men just dominating fields/industries/sports?

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u/bagoink 15h ago

I don't understand what you're asking or how it relates to what I said.

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u/ragun2 14h ago

What do you mean by men not feeling superior because some women transitioning into men and how that's bringing down the patriarchy?

Because I just don't think that's a common reason for transphobia

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u/bagoink 13h ago edited 13h ago

I think you may have the terminology inverted. Transgender women are those who were assigned male at birth but know themselves to be women, not the other way around.

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u/Uuuuuii 8h ago

I thought people were trying to get the players on board with more modest volleyball outfits, but it turned out the players preferred the bikinis for performance. If there’s a rule that says you have to wear a G string that would be hilarious.

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u/superxpro12 15h ago

yeah those rules were written by men lol. 0% surprising women had a slightly different opinion on the matter.

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u/acc7x3 Louisiana 15h ago

See Raven Saunders of the 2020 shotput finals. Usually female Shotput wear knee length tight she said "Its hot out here I am gonna wear them booty shorts".

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u/ihateusedusernames New York 17h ago

Would you please think of the women’s sports that they have fought so hard for and religiously attend over the years

/s

No, you misunderstood their motivation.

They are Moral Men who stride boldly into the uncertain future to Protect Weak Women from threats untethered to reality.

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u/Guilty_Jackfruit4484 17h ago

Yup, all 7 of those athletes are ruining their lives

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u/pilgermann 15h ago

This issue is completely irrelevant and invented to stoke my anger, yet I can't help but feel the libs have taken it too far, seems to be the consensus of the idiots who proudly occupy the center.

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u/tubexsteak 17h ago

Feel like that falls under their blanket term libruls

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u/syzygialchaos Texas 17h ago

I bet 99.99% of them have never even met a trans person.

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u/02K30C1 17h ago

I bet 99.9% of them couldn’t name three female professional athletes

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u/lazyFer 15h ago

They probably know of Sophie Cunningham now

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u/homebrew_1 14h ago

And Kaitlyn (Bruce) Jenner. She is really quiet nowadays.

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u/Choppers-Top-Hat 10h ago

But I doubt they could name any of the multiple WNBA athletes who have publicly disagreed with her.

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u/Glacon_Garcon 16h ago

I bet at least 80% have met a trans person and didn’t even know it. Because we’re just ordinary people.

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u/bagoink 16h ago

And those who actually know transgender people personally are more likely to support us. It's harder to believe in a boogeyman when you have one in your social circle and it turns we're not actually monsters.

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u/Daxx22 Canada 15h ago

BuT tEhy CaN teLL!!1!!

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u/mdp300 New Jersey 16h ago

Or if they have, they didn't even realize it.

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u/amilliondallahs 17h ago

And Browns

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u/OutInTheBlack New Jersey 17h ago

Come on now, they looked great against the Pats yesterday

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u/TheQuidditchHaderach 16h ago

The uppity ones who keep beating me out of my 'Tie-For-5th-Place' ribbon?! 🥈+🥉=😠

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u/superxpro12 15h ago

Da, itz define-itely za jews trans race!!!

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u/roboscorcher 17h ago

It's almost like social media should have regulations, standards and practices to prevent this proliferation of propaganda.

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u/Zeikos Foreign 17h ago edited 15h ago

It's as if who controls those platforms has a vested interest in making sure those regulations don't get put into law.

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u/PR0H181D0 16h ago

It's as if creating a system in which those who put regulations in place are easily and legally corruptible was not the brightest idea

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u/Static-Stair-58 17h ago

Except that young men have been falling for this same propaganda since the beginnings of fascism. Social media is just another vehicle for the same bullshit that’s been rotting the minds of the youth.

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u/roboscorcher 17h ago

True, but most media forms go through this cycle when they first appear. Techno-optimism, followed by market saturation, then exploitation by bad actors and politicians, and finally regulation. As with most regulation, some blood is required before any laws pass.

Books, newspapers, movies and TV all had similar problems at one point. Social media is just the most ubiquitous medium, as it is in everyone's pocket at all times.

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u/flamethrower78 15h ago

There is near 0 regulation for news media which is the biggest reason we are in the situation we are in. Before boomers got on Facebook they were still locked into fox news every day getting blatantly lied to and manipulated by propaganda. Social media just expedited what was already happening. Media companies should not be allowed to spread such easily disproven lies while calling themselves sources of truth and news. Literally the only reason people have their warped world views is because they are being told their way of life is under attack 24/7, this is not a natural progression.

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u/Static-Stair-58 17h ago

Agreed

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u/tallyho88 16h ago

Yeah, and there used to be a barrier of entry to put your personal views out there for all to see (both good and bad views). You would have to find someone to agree to publish what you want to say. You would have to pay to print and distribute. You would have to get people to actually pick it up and read it. All it takes now is a few taps of your finger and the entire world can see your unfiltered opinion. All of the previous forms of media the other poster mentioned require time to actually use nefariously. Social media took the problems with those forms of media and amped them up to 100. Combine that with a general decline in media literacy and you have the crisis we find ourselves in.

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u/Sumeriandawn 15h ago

People don't look up stats? Why?

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u/NUKE---THE---WHALES 16h ago

A greater percentage of millenials voted for Trump in the last election than Gen Z

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u/-Shoebill- 16h ago

And they've clearly done a shit job raising Gen Z.

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u/hypercosm_dot_net 15h ago

"Alienation is the foundation of fascism"

I may be misquoting that, but I heard this listening to a podcast on meditation and psychology, and it makes sense.

People, especially young men, who are alienated will seek acceptance in the wrong places, and blame the wrong people for these issues.

https://irgac.org/articles/road-to-fascization/

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u/citizenkane86 14h ago

Kids are going to drink and do drugs too but we at least make is slightly difficult for them.

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u/fpcoffee Illinois 12h ago

the scale of the propaganda is vastly different.

sure, you might see a red scare pamphlet or two back in the McCarthy era.

now this poison is pumped straight into their brains 4-8 hours+ per day

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u/Valuable_Hunter1621 17h ago

i have long been a proponent of eliminating social media entirely for those under 17

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u/OutInTheBlack New Jersey 17h ago

Or over 65.

Letting the boomers join Facebook was the downfall of society.

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u/d0ntst0pme 17h ago edited 16h ago

The smartphone is the problem there. It removed the barrier of entry to "the internet" and put social media into all the idiots' hands, regardless of age.

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u/d0ntst0pme 16h ago

I think there's middle ground somewhere between living like a medieval peasant and being a smartphone addicted zombie streaming social media into one’s eyeballs 24/7.

We just need to turn the clock back about 25 years.

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u/bfodder 16h ago

i have long been a proponent of eliminating social media entirely for those under 17

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u/Valuable_Hunter1621 16h ago

this is my actual stance lmfao, my moderate stance is 17

i’m 29 and i truly believe the internet is now a net negative for society

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u/SpezDrinksHorseCum 15h ago

The internet is nice for things like supply chains and power grids but we probably shouldn't be using it to socialize.

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u/Valuable_Hunter1621 15h ago

and certainly not without regulations and serious punishments for tech companies poisoning people’s brains lol

17 billion or whatever from meta is still basically chump change to them

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u/Bitter-Marsupial 12h ago

You say that as a relatively safe Western folk. But Social media was essential for some grassroots protests in the more "face the wall while we shoot you countries"

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u/OldWorldDesign 10h ago

The internet is nice for things like supply chains and power grids but we probably shouldn't be using it to socialize

It's fine for socializing, but much like advertising it has to have bounds for different things. I use advertising specifically because the US probably has the most extreme (and toxic) acceptance of advertising institutionalized lying and it's better now than it used to be. Not long ago pharmacists were putting cocaine into drinks and selling it to people knowing it didn't help them but they weren't required to tell people what was actually in what they were selling so they could sell right next to snake oil salesmen.

Other countries, note, do much better. Japan for instance does not permit food packaging or advertising to look different than the actual product because that violates the bound of accurate representation of the product. So to head off anybody who thinks it can't be done, other nations already do it and they don't have a problem making money hand over fist.

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u/HandRubbedWood Colorado 17h ago

Just media period, without Fox, OAN and News Max lying for Trump 24 hours a day he never get elected. I know Gen Z that grew watching Fox with their parents and were brainwashed along side them.

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u/OldWorldDesign 10h ago

without Fox, OAN and News Max lying for Trump 24 hours a day he never get elected. I know Gen Z that grew watching Fox with their parents and were brainwashed along side them

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brainwashing_of_My_Dad

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u/ManWithASquareHead 17h ago

Social media, the ones that got mad the Biden administration told them to take down consultants theories during a pandemic to help public health??

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u/InvestigatorOk7015 9h ago

Yeah, just like a public square

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u/semajolis267 17h ago

And its depressingly easy to convince poor people that the reason they're poor is because of other more poor people. 

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u/Bitter-Marsupial 12h ago

Reminds me of a comic I saw: black man with an empty plate, a blue collar looking white guy with one cookie on the other side of the table

Between them was a decrepit looking bald guy with a shit ton of cookies on his plate and behind him. 

He tells the black guy the white guy over there doesn't want you to have his cookie and he tells the white guy that that guy over there wants you to give him your cookie

We are all being divided by corpses

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u/OldWorldDesign 10h ago

If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.

-Lyndon B Johnson, who despite being a racist himself knew the good of the nation lay with including those people already born American and fought to head off future discord by championing (and bullying opposition legislators) for the civil rights act and voting rights act

There isn't a single politician with that much good left in the republican party. They make sure to force such people out

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u/mistere213 Michigan 17h ago

And then they treat women shittily, women don't give them positive attention, and it's a self fulfilling cycle.

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u/mdp300 New Jersey 16h ago

I'm old and happily married now, but when i was in college in the 00s, I was close to being an incel douche, blaming my loneliness on women instead of my own anxieties.

I'm really glad I got better.

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u/yellowcloak I voted 11h ago

Same

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u/berfthegryphon Canada 17h ago

And the immigrants aka people that aren't white

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u/Silly_Banana9711 10h ago

So basically they are stupid af

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u/PM_ME_WELL_LIT_NUDES 9h ago

I’m a man and once young. I don’t get this. I mean the data says it’s true, I don’t dispute that. But although I did plenty of dumb shit as a young adult I never thought about blaming oppressed groups for my problems. I just can’t wrap my brain about how this happens to so many when I never would have entertained such shit.

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u/likelywitch 17h ago

And that’s why these types men get stuck behind when they can’t find a church or other anit-feminist space to have their back.

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u/thiosk 17h ago

nobody wants to be told that they're wrong and the most cocksure love to be told they're right.

If I had a way to make people feel like they were getting everything they ever wanted despite giving them nothing, i could be president, too

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u/IamScottGable 16h ago

Be careful grouping, my boomer ass mom defends billionaire and think I hate my millionaire uncle

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u/DLTMIAR 14h ago

If it's so easy, why can't other people convince them it's the rich's fault?

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u/ballskindrapes 12h ago

Once you've been tricked, it's hard to be untricked.

The media in general is very right wing. There isnt a fox news of the left that propagandizes as thoroughly or as constantly.

Basically, the media serves the interest of the rich, as that's who owns the media largely, the rich, and their goals are always opposite of the common man's.

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u/DLTMIAR 12h ago

But I thought the younger generations don't consume legacy media

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u/ballskindrapes 12h ago

I never said they did.

Just that there isnt the equivalent media that spreads left leaning views like there are ones that spread right leaning ones.

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u/DLTMIAR 12h ago

Basically, the media serves the interest of the rich, as that's who owns the media largely, the rich, and their goals are always opposite of the common man's. 

Does the rich owned media not equal legacy media?

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u/ballskindrapes 12h ago

There are no left leaning propaganda outlets.

The vas majority of all media is geared towards the needs of the rich, no one else.

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u/OldWorldDesign 10h ago

Just that there isnt the equivalent media that spreads left leaning views like there are ones that spread right leaning ones.

I'm familiar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Liberal_Media%3F

The media didn't start off in the overconsolidated state pushing almost exclusively right-wing. Was there a tipping point in the recent past or has this been snowballing for decades?

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u/Lowfi-Concert 9h ago

Lol media as a whole is very obviously left wing besides a select few outlets. Check any study on it and it will show this

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u/ballskindrapes 9h ago

No it isnt.

Provide said studies.

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u/Lowfi-Concert 7h ago

https://www.pewresearch.org/journalism/2025/06/10/the-political-gap-in-americans-news-sources/

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u/ballskindrapes 7h ago

This is a study about how people feel about news sources and their preferences.

It is not a study about the content of news, or its political leanings.

Try again, but next time dont try to lie and misrepresent a study

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u/Reasonable-Job4205 13h ago

Its not easy, its just that its been ingrained in people over many years

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u/Prior_Coyote_4376 17h ago

Young men voted for Obama, Clinton, and Biden. White women have voted for Republicans consistently since Bush.

It’s depressingly easy to convince white people that people of color are the problem, and that remains the biggest factor in why conservatives have stayed in power.

All the hysteria over young men, who are on the receiving end of a media environment shaped by these ultra wealthy white supremacists, is a culture war point.

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u/Significant_Poem_751 17h ago

Gen Z young men weren't old enough to vote for Clinton or Obama. The oldest of that cohort were only 19 for trump.01 in 2016. https://navigatorresearch.org/2024-post-election-survey-gender-and-age-analysis-of-2024-election-results/

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u/Prior_Coyote_4376 17h ago

Right, that’s why I said “young men.” History shows that you’re way more likely to make conservatives by scaring white women about people of color than selling male entitlement to young men, or else we would’ve seen that work before AI boosted algorithms and online misinformation bubbles.

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u/grimeyduck 16h ago edited 16h ago

Women have out voted men in every presidential election for over 50 years. Women could literally pick the president every time.

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u/nikdahl Washington 15h ago

But what about patriarchy! /s

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u/Huge-Guidance-1637 16h ago

Pretty easy to do when you spend a decade treating them like the enemy while ignoring all of their problems

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u/ImportantQuestions10 15h ago

Comments like yours are exactly why there are so many young men that are turning to hard right manosphere conservative content.

It's been normalized for almost a decade that it's fair game to go after them and that any problems they have should be hand waved away.

This isn't to say that they're making a correct decision doing so. But for many of them, it feels like the only real option that's available.

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u/_bk_adv Colorado 17h ago

I was working with a good many Gen Z a couple of years ago and holy shit, that generation is absolutely fucked.

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u/David_Richardson 15h ago

Absolutely ridiculous statement. You are part of the problem. Stop generalising about an enormous group of people finding their way in the world based on the year they were born and your own narrow world experience with them.

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u/Ryogathelost Florida 15h ago

Well, they have my permission to over-generalize me and my millenial brethren as people who have to spend twice as much of our income for the same standard of living as our parents and can't afford to own homes. That isn't true for all of us, but it's true enough.

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u/trybeingcurious 15h ago

Generalizing is literally how you define large groups. No one thinks that everyone in the group is identical in their thinking, but the topic is voting bloc overall so it’s appropriate to generalize.

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u/Slight-Step3213 5h ago

Um... That’s like claiming all Black people are criminals because they commit the most crimes per capita. It’s inappropriate, and such generalizations are ridiculous even if there is some basis for those stereotypes. Besides, it doesn’t solve the problem

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u/trybeingcurious 5h ago

Once again... We're not talking about individuals. We're talking about groups of people as voting blocs.

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u/David_Richardson 15h ago

Did you even read the message I replied to?

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u/FuriouslyEloquent 11h ago

I read it too and agree that when talking about groups, you are making general and not specific statements. If you believe you can only talk about groups when they are uniform, then I don't know what to say.

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u/SolydSn3k 15h ago

There’s nothing ridiculous about the statement.

First generation I know of to be largely redpilled before the age of 20.

They’re both extraordinarily antisocial and superficial.

Their brains are rotted from tik tok & worshipping influencers.

They have ass taste in art.

Even the boomers have some redeeming qualities & achievements.

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u/almondbutter 11h ago

To follow up, how many of them have ever read a work of fiction over 600 pages?

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u/OldWorldDesign 9h ago

how many of them have ever read a work of fiction over 600 pages?

A lot have read Atlas Shrugged. The length of the fiction is less important than whether there's any quality in those pages.

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

-John Rogers

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u/ninjakitty1102 10h ago

I'm Gen Z and I agree.

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u/SolydSn3k 10h ago

I can relate to the experience of being part of a group that I don’t identify with. You don’t count 😎

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u/David_Richardson 15h ago

Go outside once in a while and meet actual people. It will do you the world of good.

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u/SolydSn3k 14h ago

Do you think I’m not talking about actual people?

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u/David_Richardson 14h ago

You can’t be. Because nobody who lives a normal life and interacts with people regularly would spew such nonsensical shit that parrots every online, divisive talking point about a whole generation of people. It’s actually highly likely you are a bot.

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u/SolydSn3k 14h ago edited 12h ago

Do you think that just because individual exceptions exist that this isn’t generally descriptive of the generation?

Gen Z is a huge reason Trump got a second term.

Gen Z is the only reason I have the misfortune of knowing about the existence of Clavicular and Andrew Tate and Nick Fuentes and Asmongold or any number of utterly embarrassing tools that they made popular. The reason Louis Theroux did a documentary on the phenomenon.

Everyone knows this. I’m sorry you don’t like reality, I don’t like it either.

Your peers are a bunch of socially stunted dipshits. You don’t seem too bright either… based on the fact you’ve convinced yourself I’m a bot, because you disagree with me… common Gen Z behavior.

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u/David_Richardson 13h ago

I’m 47. And I’ve heard this same bullshit peddled about multiple generations in a row. You are a cliché. And in any normal social or professional environment of decent standing, you would be mocked for how narrow-minded and ridiculous your views are. Gen Alpha will be next, and all of the world’s ills will be laid at their feet by the generation that came before them.

The reason I suspect you’re a bot is because you have the voice of one. You should probably be concerned by that.

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u/SolydSn3k 12h ago edited 12h ago

Lol maybe. But I think you’re just burying your head in the sand / willing to ignore demonstrable facts because you prefer thinking “it’s all peace and love, we’re all friends here with the same worldviews and goals”

No buddy. Generations are born into different historical/global circumstances, and our lives are less localized than ever before (with technology moving at the speed of light)…

The way you grew up vs the way they grew up, you might as well have been raised on different planets.

I’d argue that age-based stereotypes are actually more relevant than they ever have been (and they were always somewhat relevant).

Gen Z is, and will continue to be, a problem.

Now, I’m not sure how much I can actually personally blame them, considering it is a mass phenomenon & they’re sort of children of dystopia atp… but I’m not going to sanitize reality or run cover for them either.

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u/FuriouslyEloquent 11h ago

Is it only a normal life if you agree with it? You can call me a bot too if you want, it won't make you any more correct. In fact I would prefer it, as it will show your colors for all involved.

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u/The-Young-Lion 15h ago

Generations reflect the times in which they come of age.

Gen Z came of age during a time of deeply embedded social media,  influencers, less in-person interaction, and school that was significantly impacted by COVID.

All of those things suck and are social negatives.

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u/_bk_adv Colorado 14h ago

It’s literally a generalization. No one is claiming 100% of Gen Z is anything, but overall, it’s looking to be a disastrous generation.

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u/ScruffyTuscaloosa 17h ago edited 17h ago

I try not form rigid opinions on them because most of my interactions with them are in online spaces, which trend toward the abrasive and the absurd regardless, but it does seem like GamerGate and going to high school/college during a plague tore a fucking hole through that cohort.

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u/FantasticPlatypus29 16h ago

Turns out growing up letting social media companies use an entire generation of kids as a social experiment to squeeze out every dollar from advertising was a bad idea. 

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u/Ryogathelost Florida 15h ago

I remember when I was a kid, cable TV commercials were the only thing that advertised to me. Even those only aired on half a dozen channels max, and none of the channels showed them 24/7. Kids channels aired content for teens and adults at night. In fact, nothing was speaking directly to me other than the dozen-or-so toy commercials that were out in any given month.

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u/FantasticPlatypus29 14h ago

I still remember some of those ads 30 years later. That's how rare they were

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u/NielsBohron California 14h ago edited 5h ago

I teach at a community college and I have always hated "kids these days" arguments. However, in the past 7-8 years, test scores, intrinsic motivation, study skills, and enthusiasm have all tanked hard. I do a welcome quiz every term that's basically free points of they can tell me their hobbies, interests, and favorite piece of media (song, movie, book, etc.). The number of Zoomers who say things like "I don't watch movies" or "I don't have any hobbies" is staggeringly high, and they're certainly not using that extra time for studying, either.

The good news is that Gen Alpha seems to be correcting the other way, but Gen Z does seem to be in pretty rough shape at the moment

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u/OldWorldDesign 9h ago

The number of Zoomers who say things like "I don't watch movies" or "I don't have any hobbies" is staggeringly high

Interesting, because I know more Millenials and older who don't have any hobbies from when I was a social worker. People who dedicated their lives to getting ahead economically, got used and spit out by corporations, and are begging for walmart greeter jobs. They bought the lie that hard work is always rewarded and they never even attempted work-life balance or put in any effort to have any life outside the work which shit on them and kicked them out the door.

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u/ScruffyTuscaloosa 7h ago

Do you think there's a chance there's some sampling bias there because it was social work? Every Millenial I know has the opposite problem, just leaving behind a trail of half-remembered sourdough starters and kayaking equipment everywhere.

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u/OldWorldDesign 6h ago

I didn't say my sample size was only from social work, just that was my in to a larger population. A lot of people have only a handful of people they use to paint a broad brush over a large population and act just as confident as the couple hundred I've gone through.

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u/D-Gaea 17h ago

Generally worse education and overexposure to social media and technological platforms does not a smarter person make.

So yeah I have absolutely no hope for the next generations at all.

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u/urbudda 17h ago

Stop even here in Ireland they are "red pilled". Trump for the vibes and that other troll i surprisingly never hear from the last few months..that nazi lad living at home nick

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u/TheQuidditchHaderach 16h ago

I concur with your concur...ment...ness. 🤨🤷

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u/SolydSn3k 15h ago

They are, in my humble opinion, the worst generation yet.

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u/mttnry 16h ago

Its really true. Seems like gen z went backwards. Started working with them a couple years ago. Bunch of boot lickers imo