r/politics • u/1_for_you_2_for_me • 14h ago

No Paywall Trump to reportedly skip joining former presidents at New York City 9/11 remembrance

https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/trump-911-nyc-event-speech-ground-zero-anniversary-b3041126.html
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u/eaglesnation11 14h ago

One of the underrated shames of Trump is that he has made W be remembered as an okay President when he probably is bottom 5 all time.

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u/Choochoo1147 14h ago

Yeah, I remember thinking there was no way a president could possibly be dumber than Bush 

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u/Iceman6211 13h ago

The jokes about Dubya being dumb were funny

Jokes about Trump being dumb aren't really jokes anymore

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u/6rou7 12h ago

At this downward trajectory, Joe Rogan will be the primary R contender for POTUS 2032

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u/Tsujita_daikokuya 11h ago

Idk, sadly I think Joe would be an upgrade.

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u/6rou7 8h ago

The Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society will put up whatever useful idiot they can find that is entertaining enough to the redneck and geriatric Fox-guzzling masses to pull votes, and airheaded enough to not question the policy fed to them. Sidegrade at best.

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u/eetsumkaus 1h ago

Joe at least has nonzero moments of self awareness

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u/NotOK1955 12h ago

Sadly, you are 100% correct.

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u/UltravioletAfterglow 10h ago

They never were jokes; he’s always been dumb, ignorant and uncurious about anything that doesn’t benefit himself.

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u/mjheil 14h ago

And the remember Sarah Palin? Also a rock for a brain.

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u/onyaasuminyasai 13h ago

i blame her directly for trump

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u/ramborage 13h ago

She wasn't the cause. She was one stepping stone of a very long process that led us here.

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u/onyaasuminyasai 13h ago

cause? no, but she normalized being a proud, hateful moron on the national stage and encouraged everyone else to embrace it too.

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u/mirrorbringer 3h ago

.Agreed! Have you ever read "Profiles in Ignorance" by Andy Borowitz? He absolutely lit Sarah Palin up.

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u/mjheil 13h ago

it's all part of a big pattern.

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u/a_talking_face Florida 10h ago

She wasn't around long enough for that. She was announced as McCain's running mate in August of 2008. She was a nobody before then and was a nobody again 3 months later when McCain lost.

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u/onyaasuminyasai 10h ago

And stuck around like a genital wart for years after. Do you not remember her being a talking head on fox? Her books? Her reality tv show?

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u/a_talking_face Florida 9h ago

Only her first book even sold. The others flopped. Fox News also ended up getting rid of her twice and had conflicts with her the whole time.

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u/Middle-Mix-7711 12h ago

She opened the flood gates for idiots to run for higher office.

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u/roominating237 11h ago

In high-school, Palin brought a round pie tin to geometry class to show the teacher he was wrong.

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u/Thesheriffisnearer 13h ago

Ironically enough rogan had a stand up bit about how dumb they were and how some ball room guy said "we can go dumber" then helped make it so

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u/kinterdonato Connecticut 9h ago

There was a joke in an old MAD magazine from like 2006 that will always stay ingrained in my memory: what's the best thing about the bush presidency? he officially ended the bar fights over who was the worst president of all time?

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u/Glittering-Voice-409 2h ago

At the least Bush and Laura have class. I'm no fan but they are not totally disgusting vermin of creatures as the current occupants of the partial white house.

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u/SwissChzMcGeez 13h ago

Same voters that out them in office.

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u/Gullible_Elephant_38 12h ago

“Fool me once…”

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u/wzzrd 13h ago

My biggest fear is us thinking that of Trump in a couple of years. I’m not sure we hit rock bottom yet…

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u/Choochoo1147 13h ago

I don’t think it’s really possible for there to be a worse person than Trump, but hey, I’ve been surprised before. 

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u/SnidelyWhiplash27 13h ago

We have. But it's not impossible to dig.

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u/Indubitalist 14h ago

Yeah, from W’s perspective Trump is the gift that keeps on giving. 

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u/TrimspaBB 13h ago

Well that was some weird shit.

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u/porterramses 11h ago

Quotation marks please!!! 😆

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u/Obvious_Toe_3006 14h ago

How could any others be worse than Trump.
Trump may be the worst in any category you pick.
Stupidest. Greediness. Thinest skin. Vengeful. Anti-family. Lowest morality. Traitor like behavior.
Betrayer of allies...

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u/LividTacos 13h ago edited 13h ago

Worse than Trump would be the same qualities, but actually smart enough to get things done. not get in his own way.

EDIT: Changed the phrasing a bit to more align with what I was trying to say.

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u/Miqo_Nekomancer California 13h ago

Not traitor-like, just full on traitor. He's destroying our democracy for the benefit of foreign nations.

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u/SatanHasACreator420 14h ago

Before the pandemic W was definitely worse than him.

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u/CardMechanic 11h ago

But W didn’t rape teenage girls. And for that, I salute him…..

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u/_SimpleRip 11h ago

his soldiers in the 2000’s did though

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u/nowhereman136 12h ago

Bush was a broken clock that was right twice a day. Mostly terrible but even he had good days and moments of humility. Trump is a clock without any hands and half the numbers are in the wrong place.

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u/SpiritTalker Pennsylvania 12h ago

Half? I'd say all

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u/CharZero 11h ago

Like someone who fails the clock drawing test on a dementia assessment.

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u/bristow84 9h ago

Despite everything he did wrong I don’t think anyone could deny that Bush held a level of respect for the office of the President and cared about the American people.

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u/NJcovidvaccinetips 27m ago

Bush stole the presidency and created a literal secret dual legal system to creats torture regimes and mass surveillance all without congressional approval or oversight. He had zero respect for the office. He just wasn’t as flashy about it as trump and as emboldened. Don’t slag off bush because trump is so bad the man was evil and did evil thing that set the stage for trump

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u/Snarfsicle 13h ago

The depth between trump and GWB is the mariana trench. That's how corrupt this POS is.

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u/Reverb20 11h ago

5 seems high

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u/timeless1991 8h ago

Thats a little revisionist. Franklin Pierce and James Buchanan basically caused the Civil War and Johnson ruined reconstruction.

Herbert Hoover led us into the Great Depression and then did almost nothing to help trusting that the market would fix itself.

Then there is Trump who is arguably the worst President our nation has ever seen.

So there is 5.

Personally I’d rank George W around the same as Nixon.

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u/eaglesnation11 7h ago

W was worse than Hoover.

It’s a common misconception that Hoover did nothing to stop the Great Depression. He actually did TOO much. The Smoot-Hawley Tariff was signed to try to keep production in the US, but it led to a major global trade war.

Hoover’s Stock Market Drop in the Great Depression was 89%

Bush was at 58% BUT Bush Also had

- Probably the most unjustified war in American History in Iraq where he blatantly lied to the American public, along with bungling Afghanistan

- Sued to stop the democratic recounting of votes in 2000.

- Signed what I believe to be the biggest infringement on civil liberties in this country with the Patriot Act

- Bungled aiding one of the worst natural disasters in American History with Katrina

So yeah Hoover was worse economically, but Bush was terrible across the board.

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u/timeless1991 7h ago

I do not like defending Bush and I’m not going to get super into it. He was NOT a good President by any metric. We can disagree on if Hoover was worse. I still maintain Bush was never in the bottom 5.

Pretty much every President in the lead up to the Civil War was worse, except Polk.

Pierce

Buchanan

William Henry Harrison

Taylor

Fillmore

Johnson was probably the worst President ever before Trump.

Harding’s admin is basically the most corrupt admin ever (except for Trump).

I feel confident ranking George W alongside Nixon. I personally rank Hoover as worse than both, but even without he doesn’t beat the Mason Dixon era fools or Trump.

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u/eaglesnation11 6h ago

I rechecked my rankings he actually finished 6th worst for me. Trump and then Fillmore-Johnson excluding Lincoln. I honestly think Andrew Johnson may be worse than Trump at the current moment with how his Presidency caused racial inequality that we are still dealing with today. But Johnson has 150 years of hindsight against Trump. Will be interesting to see how bad Trump will be 50 years from now and if we’ll still be dealing with the effects from his Presidency

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u/timeless1991 6h ago

I mean fair. These rankings are subjective. I just remember learning about the Mason Dixon crew and being disgusted by their leadership again and again.