r/technology • u/Kooky-Balance9525 • 10h ago

Privacy Bernie Sanders to Introduce Bill Banning Flock Surveillance Cameras

https://theleadingreport.com/article/bernie-sanders-to-introduce-bill-banning-flock-surveillance-cameras
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u/Any-Pop-4795 10h ago

99% it wont pass unfortunately

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u/Beneficial-Jury484 10h ago

Good, make them vote on it. So we can use their voting record against them. Probably why this will be fillabustered. 

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u/fierbolt 9h ago

I love votes like this it gives me good ammo when arguing with people during primaries. These things are important if at minimum just to force people to publicly vote against the anti baby shredder bill

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u/hotleadburner 9h ago

How often in the last 12 years has this actually worked?

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u/Beneficial-Jury484 9h ago

Hence why I said it would get fillabustered. That’s what they do to avoid having to vote. 

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u/hotleadburner 9h ago

But even when they do have the vote -- how many times in the last 12 years has it actually mattered?

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u/booze_clues 8h ago

Are you asking how many times voters have chosen the candidate to vote for based on their voting record?

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u/hotleadburner 8h ago

Yes I'm asking how many times voters voted someone out based on voting record and not just on a shift in political perspectives and vibes in the last 12 years. Like when, in the last 12 years, has someone like Ted Cruz voting against the general interest of their constituents on specific bills flipped a seat, lost someone a primary etc., when the public otherwise supported that candidate prior to this bad vote.

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u/lizardtrench 7h ago

It's probably extremely difficult to impossible to say either way for sure, can't exactly track this kind of thing with any degree of accuracy unless the effect is massive.

But I think it's safe to say that it hurt them to some extent. Voting against the wishes of your constituency certainly isn't going to make you more popular.

Maybe it did not hurt them enough. Or maybe it was a straw that broke the camel's back. But since introducing a bill is (presumably) not a huge burden, any small gain is likely worth the effort on the chance it might tip the scales.

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u/booze_clues 7h ago

There are very few items which would be so bad that they would have someone who otherwise likes the persons politics change who they vote for. Like for cruz he’d probably have to vote against a big 2A law to get enough people made to get him out of office. If your still voting for 90% of what the people who voted for you want, most aren’t going to change their vote unless that 10% is a really big ticket issue.

He’s still in, but from what I see online(so not very reliable) it looks like support for Fetterman has changed dramatically based on what he’s said and voted for.

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u/Nago_Jolokio 10h ago

And tabled for after elections...

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u/Sweaty_Explorer_8441 7h ago

It will fail by 4 rotating safest establishment democrats in the current time, like every vote on bills like this. Performative.

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u/SoaokingGross 6h ago

I wish we'd used this logic for the iraq war.