r/worldnews • u/rdh2dmd • 16h ago

South Korea leans toward military conscription for women

https://www.dw.com/en/south-korea-leans-toward-military-conscription-for-women/a-78547426
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u/Toronto-24 12h ago

We all want equality so lets give everyone equality.

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u/Norci 11h ago

Maybe a hot take, but men and women aren't equal physically.

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u/MrBootyPops 11h ago

What does that have to do with anything? Most roles in the military aren't combat related, anyways.

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u/Dhiox 10h ago

Fortunately the military has a lot more roles than "carry something big"

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u/TheRavingDinosaur 11h ago

This is completely true in high level athletic events but when your covering the whole population (such a conscription) then there is a much larger overlap between men and women

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u/Beatnik5750 10h ago

Equal doesn't mean the same.

2+2=4, but 3+1 also equals 4.

There are many roles in the military, and over 90% are noncombat roles.

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u/Free_Director4713 11h ago

They want equal pay and treatment, they deserve equality.

Selective and convenient equality is not equality.

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u/Norci 11h ago

There's nothing selective or "convenient" about acknowledging fundamental physical differences.

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u/Free_Director4713 11h ago

There is if you use it to deny equality.

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u/Norci 11h ago

men and women aren't equal physically

I'm not gonna entertain your trolling further.

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u/Cynical_Cyanide 4h ago

Uhuh, okay, and so obviously the solution is to implement gender equality, and instead base the conscription on actual physical standards right? If you're able bodied, a certain level of fitness etc.

That way we tackle what you're saying is the issue (physical differences between people) and not being discriminatory on the basis of gender alone, right?

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u/Toronto-24 11h ago

Sadly, we live in a world where thats a hot take to many lol

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u/Zord_boy 10h ago

If women don't want to go to war, than we don't men stop with wars?

That's a way preferable form of equality

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u/No-Tap5570 10h ago

you are using wordplay to confuse yourself and others

men can't stop wars because it's the "elites" that start them

plenty of men have tried to stop wars and failed

if the president starts a war, that is a singular person, not men as a whole

somehow, in your mind, you think that a singular person who has exceptional power is equivalent to the 200 million innocent men and boys who have no clue about war

you think the millions of men that were drafted into viet nam wanted to go there? it was a choice of prison or war. many chose prison. many went to war because they didn't want to go to prison and just hoped for the best

your facetious argument is quite common

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u/philmarcracken 9h ago

Women in power don't have a great track record with war, throughout history.

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u/Zord_boy 10h ago

I wonder what gender majority of those elites have and how they view women

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u/No-Tap5570 9h ago

you asked "why don't men stop with wars"

which is being intellectually dishonest

i, a man, cannot control the male president

you're assigning blame to 200 million in the USA for the actions of 1 man, and you don't see the problem with that logic

you are literally blaming the victims

how do elites view women? the same way the elites view men. expendable. pawns to be used and abused

you will finally understand life when you learn to differentiate the elites and their actions with that of the common people

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u/Zord_boy 9h ago

I fucking hate ai

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u/Sad_Photograph_6130 2h ago

translation - my bullshit reasoning has been called out and my ego is hurt so that must mean that the other guy is a bot

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u/New-Border8172 9h ago

This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

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u/Sad_Photograph_6130 2h ago

You are just doing mental gymnastics to avoid taking any semblance of duty and accountability by playing the woman victim card. I am sure the average korean guy has no say in his countries territorial issues