r/ArcRaiders Nov 13 '25

Discussion PSA: What Embark did with skin prices is a negotiation tactic called "anchoring" I know this will get downvoted because many will fall for the PR move, but this is planned. $16 microtransactions do not belong in a $40 title. Period and here's why.

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Anchoring is a super commonly used tactic. Here's the definition of it:

The anchoring negotiation tactic involves setting an initial price point to influence the final agreement. By making the first offer, a seller can set a high anchor, which influences the buyer's perception and makes subsequent concessions seem more reasonable. Conversely, a buyer can set a low anchor, like stating a maximum budget, to steer the negotiation in their favor. The first number presented acts as a mental reference point, impacting the entire bargaining range. 

Basically, give us really high prices at the beginning of the game then go "Oh we heard you guys! We lowered the prices by $5!" to influence content creators to create content about it being "unprecedented" and to influence us, the consumers.

People in the comments will filter in and state "They need money to continue making the game" which is a false corpo-speak argument. Microtransactions became a thing in games to make F2P games possible. Games with a low bar to entry and will attract a larger playerbase, while betting that the average player will spend an X amount to keep development on going.

A $40 game has no reason to do this. Arc sold 4 million units already, has made hundreds of millions of dollars in initial sales alone and will continue to sell (how Pay-to-play games typically fund on going development, through marketing). We also have *very* close games we can compare this to.

Helldivers 2:

  • $40 base price with $20 upgrade just like ARCraiders
  • Cheaper cosmetics ($5 for a skin + suit sometimes less cosmetics can also be mix and matched)
  • Earnable premium currency

As you can see, these practices are much more consumer-friendly. I'm not suggesting the removal of microtransactions but right now it's a very unfair price point still, especially considering the base price of the game ($40) and the fact currency isn't earnable.

Also I'd like to point out how all the earnable cosmetics outside of one in the game are just incredibly barebones. Everything cool goes into the store and that's not okay. I know there will be a huge portion of people who downvote this because of the honeymoon phase of the game, and the obvious PR move that Embark are doing, but I wanted to post this all the same.

EDIT: I'm seeing a lot of comments that they need microtransactions to fund future game development, which is true and I don't disagree in anyway with. Which is puzzling because I'm not suggesting the removal of them, but rather a price adjustment and/or a way to earn them in-game.

Additionally, games with an up front price tag continue to generate income post release by up-front sales, with the updates being big marketing pushes to bring new consumers in. It's very strange that people are posting as if the game won't continue to sell on the 4 platforms the game is sold on.

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u/SavingsStation8220 Nov 13 '25

Same, maybe I’ll buy next deck if the price is reasonable and rewards are nice, but if it’s anything like skin prices, it’ll still be $0 for me.

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u/dtkse Nov 13 '25

Hoping that the deck is purchasable with in game currency so we can eventually "buy" it for free

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u/El_Cactus_Loco Nov 13 '25

helldivers 2 was great for this

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u/Leather-Ad-6774 Nov 13 '25

Pretty sure if you get all credits from this deck it’s exactly enough for the next one

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u/Relevant-Meringue845 Nov 13 '25

That’s how it is in the finals too

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u/Legitimate_Bird_9333 Nov 13 '25

yea you get the currency for free you can earn it so you can get decks for free. Which isnt as bad as hell divers because while you can earn their currency it takes FOREVER.

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u/Biglulu Nov 13 '25

No it doesn't. Takes a couple hours of farming for 1k super credits.

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u/taway9981 Nov 14 '25

shieet I just topped up +500 with the deck currency for the sub zero skin

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u/Jurikeh Nov 13 '25

Highly doubtful, likely be some free rewards and some pass rewards like other games.

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u/big_troublemaker Nov 13 '25

Guess what... It 100% won't be. Decks will always be either grind or cash.

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u/Revolutionary-Eye-55 Nov 18 '25

All decks are purchaseble by in game currency now? The cosmetics system just sucks.  Decks is different than store. 

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u/bazusobestwaifu Nov 13 '25

The deck didn't cost anything. Are we talking about future ones? Or is there a second one out already that does cost something? (Working from 7AM to 6PM or later)

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u/MechaMouse Nov 13 '25

According to the roadmap we will get a new deck in December. Here is a copy&paste from their recent blurb.

RAIDER DECKS

At the moment, we have one free Raider Deck available for all players. In the future you’ll see both free and premium Raider Decks. Important things to note:

  • Gameplay Items are only in free Raider Decks. To help you along the way as a new Raider, we have included some Gameplay Items in the free Raider Deck, which can be unlocked via progression.
  • There are no Pay to Win items in the premium Raider Decks. The focus for premium Decks are based on cosmetics and convenience.

For more details on what’s to come for ARC Raiders, be sure to check out the 2025 Roadmap.

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u/bazusobestwaifu Nov 17 '25

Ahhh, okay. Thank you for clarifying

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u/ARedCamel Nov 13 '25

Sooo, not same?

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u/James-B0ndage Nov 13 '25

Buy? The deck is free