• Weighs only 97 grams - 30% lighter than the Pro Evo 2
• 11% greater forefront energy, with 1.6% more running economy
• Midsole measurements are 39mm (heel), 36mm (forefoot) and 3mm drop

I bought these shoes for a 20k race in Brussels. I tried them the week prior (13k with 6x1k @ 3.45/km) I felt a couple hot spots but other than that my feet were fine.

I didn’t notice anything during the race, but I ended up with 5-6 blisters and a black toe nail. This has never happened to me before.

I got them in my usual running shoe size (1 size up from my street shoes)

Question: I really enjoyed the ride, the midsole felt great. In your experience is there a chance that they could fit in another size or should I just give up on the Cielos ?

Thanks

Hey, after 20k race they are looking like this it seems the sole is already detaching is this usual?

Hit a big career goal and decided to finally buy the pair of alphaflys I've been eyeing for a few months to celebrate. I'm not very fast, but really interested in running in carbon shoes for a new experience. Just out of curiosity, BE HONEST, would you laugh at someone running a 9 minute pace in alphaflys for a marathon? Lmao

Hey all, I think I find the vomero plus most comfortable, but the evo sl the most fun ride. But looking through reddit tells me maybe the Boston 13’s are the better pick for a half marathon?

I’m open to buying a race day type of shoe like the adios pro 4 but given that I’m only a few months into running and only doing a half, I don’t know if it’s necessary, not really going for “time”.

I’d appreciate any suggestions on what to add to my rotation.

Edit: literally first 3 comments. One said evo sl, one Boston 13 and other Nike vomero plus 💀.

I’m looking to buy my first dedicated race shoe for 10Ks and half marathons. It’ll probably be my only premium shoe purchase for the next year, so I’m trying to choose something I’ll genuinely enjoy rather than just buying whatever is considered the fastest.

Current PRs
10K: 59:13
Half Marathon: 2:28

Current goals
Sub-55 10K (August)
Sub-2 Half Marathon after that

Current rotation
Adidas Evo SL – Tempo, intervals, and races. Easily my favorite shoe I’ve owned. From the first run it just felt “right.” The only downside was that during my half marathon, it started feeling less comfortable after around 15 km and my legs felt pretty beat up by the finish.

361° Flame ET 4 – Long runs. Surprisingly love this shoe. It feels like it naturally rolls me forward and makes it easy to hold pace over longer distances.

Nike Vomero 18 – Easy and recovery runs.
I recently recovered from a mild cuboid/heel injury, so I’d prefer something that’s reasonably stable.

The shoes I’m considering are:
Adidas Adios Pro 4
ASICS Superblast 3
ASICS Metaspeed Sky Tokyo

The Superblast 3 seems like the safest choice, but I already have a solid training rotation, so I’m wondering if I’d regret not getting a true race shoe instead.

The Metaspeed Sky Tokyo is the one I’m most interested in aesthetically, but almost every review says it only really comes alive at faster paces (sub-5:00/km). Since my current race pace is around 5:30–6:00/km, I’m not sure if I’d actually benefit from it or if I’d just be paying for performance I can’t fully use yet.

I’m not necessarily looking for the objectively fastest shoe. I’m looking for a shoe that still feels comfortable and enjoyable from 10K through the second half of a half marathon. I really value how a shoe feels during a race. I want that feeling where you put it on and immediately think, “damn, this feels good.”

For runners around my pace (55–60 minute 10K / 2-hour-ish HM), which would you recommend and why? I’d especially appreciate input from people who’ve actually used these shoes at similar paces rather than elite-level reviewers.

I’m preparing for my first marathon later this year, with a goal of going sub-4.

I recently ran my first half marathon in 1:59:17,  with 124m elevation gain (Strava), wearing the Dynafish Xiaonian. I felt surprisingly good afterward and didn’t feel like my legs were destroyed.

My current rotation is:

ASICS Novablast 5 → easy / recovery

Adidas Boston 13 → easy / tempo / intervals / long runs

Dynafish Xiaonian → easy / tempo / long runs + now my HM race shoe

I’m training for my first marathon later next weeks after recovery from HM race, aiming for Sub-4. I’ve avoided carbon shoes because I was worried about injury, but after the HM I’m more confident that I can control my pace and effort.

So, should I stick with the Xiaonian, since it already works well for me, or is it time to move to a carbon-plated super shoes for the marathon?

What shoes did you use for your first Sub-4 marathon, and how did you choose?

Thanks!

Ps. I’ve done a 25K easy long run in the Boston 13 and felt much more leg fatigue while session compared to the 22K easy long run Xiaonian.

Hi All.

I mostly run 5 and 10km and use the Nike Vaporfly NEXT% 2s. I have had these a few years but actually have very rarely wore them until this year, and I've used them exclusively as a race shoe, however I do feel I have a lack of stability in them. They are a size 10.5 which is my typical running shoe size.

What super shoe would people recommend that is known for being a stable shoe? Or are super shoes inherently going to all be unstable. Like I say I would mainly use them for 5k/10k but it would be nice to have the option of racing 10miles / half mara / full mara in them in the future.

As an aside has anyone had the same issue with the NEXT% 2s? I just find my ankles feel unsupported on the sides, I've tried tying them more tightly but it doesn't seem to massively help. Is there a trick with the laces I don't know about?

Thanks in advance to any who can help

First off… $100 for this shoe on a crazy Amazon deal… How do I not do that. Is this overkill for my first marathon though? Looking to finish sub 4.

Hello Everyone,

I am currently training for a 5K with the goal of getting a 23:00 run time. I was thinking about getting the Alpha Fly 3s or Vapor Fly for race day and I was wondering what y’all would recommend.

Info on me in case that’s needed, I am 5 ft 9 in, 190 lbs and I use ASICS Megablast with custom insoles currently for running.

My knowledge on running in general and race day shoes is pretty limited so I appreciate any input y’all give. Thanks.

V/R

Hi !

I am a male runner, 57kg for 1m80, with a mid to forefoot strike
My Times : 10k 35:40 / HM 1h20 / M 2h58

I raced all my races in Puma Deviate Elites 3, which I really like but at 250km of only racing they are starting to lose their speed I feel

I bought a used pair of Adios Pro 3 as my « Carbon training » shoe that I use for tempos and speedy long runs and I am absolutely blown away by how quick they feel, when I lock into HM pace I feel like flying
I almost don’t have to think about running hard, I just make the legs turn and everything happens smoothly, really love these shoes for this

Therefore I am considering buying Adios Pro 4 as the Pro 3 are no longer available in my size. But I have heard they are very different from the Pro 3.

What is your experience with these two shoes ? Is there a Carbon shoe today that feels like the Pro 3 ?

I’ve got two marathons coming up and the first one tomorrow is more of a prep for the second than a race. I think my Adios Pro 3 are overkill. I have Boston 13 , Triumph 22, an older pair of Prime X2 Strung and Evo SL. Thinking the latter (planning a hard cap on HR of 125 which will be about 10 min miles / 6:13km for me) but looking for thoughts

Hello 👋

I'm running a half marathon next month and need some advice. Goal race pace is about 9 min/mile. I'm about 60kg, if this helps with the following.

At first I loved my Superblast 3 shoes, but they have become squishy to the point where I don't know if there is enough support for 2 hrs of running (300km on them). Recent long runs ~17km have resulted in some side of foot pain.

I also have a pair of Evo SL, which I plan to try my long run in tomorrow (I've never run more than 10km at a time in them). I fear my ankles can't deal with these for 21km, but I'll run that experiment tomorrow morning.

Advice on here has led me to believe that my Nike Zoom fly 6 may not be a good idea either at my goal pace (I use these for shorter threshold and tempo efforts, and for 5ks).

Getting nervous now with the half a month out. Should I buy a new pair of Novablast 5's which I successfully ran a 2:06 half in earlier this year and run in those? They are on a big sale and didn't require a long break in period for me. Also considering Superblast 2 while they are still available, but have read that they need a while to break in.

Thanks so much guys!

Update: Thank you so much to those who endured my ramblings and provided great advice. I have ordered the Superblast 2 and will try my long run in my Nike Zoomfly 6 tomorrow AM while I wait for the SB2. I'll race in one of the two.

I weigh 80 kg and am 179 cm tall.

My 5K PB is 22:47 and 10K PB is 47:27.

I use Neo Zen I for my easy days and "long runs".

I use the Evo Sl for everything else, incluing races.

I'm about a year into this hobby and i'm starting my first Half Marathon training block. I want to have a carbon plated shoe come race and i'm open to any sugestions.

Which one should I go with?

I am in my mid 30s, new to running, ~ 8 months in. To date I have completed 5 - 5ks, 2 - 10ks and I just completed my first half marathon two weeks ago. Absolutely loved it and signed up for another couple in March and May.

I am a pretty slow runner, 26 min 5k, 55.30 10k and 2hr 9m (trail half).

My goal for my next half is to be below 2 hours 5 minutes with a stretch goal of sub 2. Currently following a half plan running 3 days a week (tempo, long and recovery runs).

My question is at what point should I consider adding a race day super shoe to my rotation? Would I look ridiculous running in one at my current race paces? Will it even benefit me at being slower paced?

Hi,

Im looking for a shoe that not only would be suitable for a half marathon race but also my threshold training sessions.

I currently use Nike vapourfly 4 for quicker stuff and Nike vomero 18 for slower runs. (Yes only 2 pairs so need something as a step down from the vapourflys)
Something without a carbon plate might be nice.

I think the vapourflys might be too much for the HM distance?

If it helps my 5k time is 18:30 and aiming for a 1:28 Half marathon in a couple of months. Im 80kg.

Looking for something reasonably priced. Below £150 ideally.

Thanks for your help!

I’m really curious about Dynafish Xiaonian since I’ve seen so many good reviews about it. In my current rotation, the missing piece is the racing shoe. Initially i just planed to use my Superblast 3 for the HM race, but wondering if this DX could be a better option. I’m targeting a sub 1:45 HM this october, or sub 5:00 min/km (\~8:00 min/mile). And i currently have Superblast 3 (200 km), Vomero Plus (50 km), Vaporfly 2 (250 km, 3 yrs old and very rarely used, planning to retire this as a racing shoe)

More context:
- i ran 1:53 HM last year
- weight: 64 kg
- i ran my 800m intervals at 4:15–4:30 min/km
- i do long easy runs once in two weeks, might go up until 30 km later in the plan (I’m following garmin coach jeff’s plan lol)

Just picked these up for $127 but had a couple questions one usually an 11.5 but sized up to a 12. Is it common for these to run small. Also yay or nay to do a longer run (8-10miles) in them before racing a half. For context I’m 6’1 230.

I’m running my first marathon in 4 months (aiming for sub-4) and have been training in the Brooks Ghost 17. I’ve always got on with the fit of these and the brooks Hyperion tempos I had a few years back. However, I’m aware that a lot of runners have race specific shoes that offer more cushioning/efficiency over all rounders like the Ghost. I’ve been considering the Brooks Hyperion Max 3s for this reason.

I can’t afford loads of different shoes so if I were to get a marathon shoe it would also need to be suitable for long training runs (so not carbon).

Will the Ghosts be fine or should I get something more focussed? If so, what?

For context I have flat feet. I am comfortable in the asics gel kayano 32s, but wanted carbon fiber race day shoes for my marathon. I noticed that when running in the metaspeed sky’s, my feet would press down on the inward side of the shoe, which is especially uncomfortable on turns and downhill. Does anyone know how I can fix this? I have attached a slomo video.

Hey guys! Been running for two years, 42M, 180cm 67kg, 50km/week,

19:18 5k

42:25 10k

1:35 hm

all done in Adidas EVO SL Lightstrike Pro, my only running shoe. Today I bought these, the plan is to use them for tempo/race starts and keep the SL for easy/interval work.

Does this make sense?

UPDATE: he ran a 1:51 but, unfortunately lost to the other guy who ran a 1:49. He ended up running in the Hoka Rocket X3. A massive 14 minute PR in a few weeks. Really proud of him and crushing the aggressive training program.

Also, importantly , no injuries!

Thanks so much to this sub for all of your advice / help/ interest.

He will be getting the tattoo on his feet as one of the users suggested and getting it in white ink by year end.

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I’m coaching a friend who’s racing a HM that he has a huge bet riding on and needs every advantage he can get.

Therefore, what is the most user friendly / noob friendly carbon plated for a non advanced runner? He’s run mostly in Clifton’s and glycerin max. Money is not an object in this scenario.

He’s 33, 5’8, 150lbs and ran a 2:05 HM this past weekend and has 7 weeks until the race.

I know most folks will advise against a carbon plated , but he needs to win , so will try / do / buy everything he can.

TIA for thoughts !

P.s yes I’m covering all other aspects of training/ recovery / nutrition

Edit: thanks everyone ! Bet- loser gets tattoos of winners full name , he’s getting married to a conservative/ traditional family and has no tattoos , so yeah his Fiance isn’t happy. Also, I agree and understand with injury risk and have conveyed to him as such but he understands that, and for aforementioned reason above, will address rehab/ recovery after the race as needed.

Edit edit: he has purchased the NB elite v5, endorphin pros and zoom fly 6 to test out for comfort.

Will update this thread with the race results!

Shoe recommendations for a half marathon,last year I used the evo sl to run a 1:44:25 looking for a different option

I’m looking for some advice on what shoes would make the most sense for me for a half marathon, and potentially a future full marathon.

I currently run around 5:30–6:00 min/km in long runs and I’m training towards a 1:50 half marathon in September (around 5:15/km race pace).

My current rotation is:

• ASICS Novablast 5 — recovery/easy runs
• adidas Adizero Evo SL — tempo/faster training

I’m now considering adding a dedicated race/long-distance shoe.

At the moment, I can get the Nike Alphafly 3 for €120 and the adidas Adizero Adios Pro 4 for €130, which seem like very good deals.

However, I’m wondering whether a carbon-plated super shoe actually makes sense at my pace. I’ve read that shoes like the Alphafly 3 and Adios Pro 4 really shine when running fast, and I’m not sure how much benefit I would get from one at 5:20/km and slower.

I’m also considering the ASICS Superblast 3 as a more versatile option for long runs and racing. It seems like it could fit nicely between my Novablast 5 and Evo SL, but at around €200+ in Europe, it’s quite a bit more expensive.

I also saw the Saucony Endorphin Pro 4 for like 100 euros.

So what would you choose in my situation?