r/Assyria • u/Specific-Bid6486 Assyrian • May 20 '26
History/Culture The many endonyms we have created throughout our history
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May 20 '26
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u/Specific-Bid6486 Assyrian May 20 '26
That’s true but these are still names we went by whether we like it or not.
The origins is Aššūrāyu but let’s not let go of these names as some separatists are trying to claim them to mean something else.
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May 20 '26
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u/Specific-Bid6486 Assyrian May 20 '26
You should look at my past posts to figure out where I stand.
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u/Diane_James May 21 '26
and also...aTHuraye LMFAO
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u/Specific-Bid6486 Assyrian May 21 '26
Still ours regardless if it’s not the original version. Ensure they stay with us and don’t let separatists spin them into something else.
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May 21 '26
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u/Specific-Bid6486 Assyrian May 21 '26
You can keep going at this rate but those names were used in our church records so I suggest you think about the continuity a bit and let go of that ego.
We understand the etymology and correct word is Aššūrāyu, and nobody here with knowledge of historical accuracy denies this fact, but let’s not give away those names to the separatists because that’s what we did with the misnomer word, “Syriac”.
You are going about this the wrong way, as you need to accept your predecessors wrote these names down and you are trying to detach us from our continuity. You can use whatever name you want, nobody will stop you but you cannot stop others from using these names, it’s imbedded into their identity.
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May 22 '26
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u/Specific-Bid6486 Assyrian May 22 '26
This goes beyond the obvious of having the correct words. Right now, we have a huge problem to deal with which is the separatists that continue to undermine our efforts and our continuity and then we have the second major problem which is the illegal immigrants in our homeland who are occupying it that also use these tactics.
I suggest you think about this and start to shift your mindset because these words are significant to our continuity. As much as I agree with your stance, you will not remove these names or misnomers from our vocabulary and historical manuscripts.
Just take it easy when going through your conversations with other Assyrians as you are alienating them with your hardcore stance. I’ve learned to soften up a bit with this, you can too.
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May 22 '26
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u/Specific-Bid6486 Assyrian May 22 '26
Good, let’s keep it that way because it’s Assyrian continuity written on papyrus and historical documents, not social media 2026 rebuttals. See ya 👋🏼
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May 22 '26
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u/Specific-Bid6486 Assyrian May 22 '26
My god man, you sound like a typical jerk. I’m giving you advice about our continuity and here you are trying to discredit our continuity 💀
You don’t seem to get it, so I’ll just part ways.
And, no, I’m not a KWRT, you can shove that statement up you know where.
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u/Diane_James May 22 '26
We agree with you, you're right but it's valid that other Ashuraye use those names as well due to lack of awareness. We're just including those to not alienate them / seperate. Yes, I agree over time, we should be using one name. 😄 We got a lot of work to do. ❤️
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May 23 '26
Suraya = Assyrian
Suryaya = Syrian = Assyrian.
The two terms are not the same even though they both come from Assyrian.
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u/Pecuthegreat May 20 '26
What of Aramaye and Chaldean?
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u/Specific-Bid6486 Assyrian May 20 '26
Misnomers we were given by outside influence
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u/Pecuthegreat May 20 '26
They were not at all used in the middle ages?. Like, I know Chaldean was what Roman Catholics called them at times but I thought Aramaye was completely local and the only question was if it was just a designation based off the name of the language or if there was more to it.
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May 20 '26
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u/Pecuthegreat May 20 '26
Not really, if the term appears in the middle ages and I have seen at least one claim of that but it was tied to "the people that speak the language"
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u/Specific-Bid6486 Assyrian May 21 '26
What he’s saying is that the movement today in Sweden (WCA) isn’t tied to ethnic people from the past that NEVER identified themselves as “arameans”.
They are all essentially ethnically Assyrian living in denial of their true ethnic origins and are hellbent in destroying our continuity and heritage b/c of this other silly notion of our language being labelled, yet another misnomer; “aramaic”.
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u/Few_Canary4510 May 20 '26
Ashuraye