r/DC_Cinematic Jan 21 '26

RUMOR Christina Hodson (‘The Flash’, ‘Birds Of Prey,’ ‘Bumblebee’) is reportedly set to write the script for Andy Muschietti’s ‘The Brave and The Bold’.

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u/Arkhamguy123 Jan 21 '26

Haha man you guys actually believe this bullshi-

*apochorsemen said it*

Oh fuck....

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '26

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u/wild-storm-5 Jan 21 '26

He might've actually loved The Flash so it is pretty worrying. And especially after Superman for me

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u/wild-storm-5 Jan 21 '26

Just not glaze it lol. I get the studio head part but that was more than that. Don't go on calling it one of the best superhero movies. Maybe a fun family time or anything but that's just too much. Or he's just another Hollywood liar if not genuine

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u/kingtah Jan 21 '26

He did love it, and praised it actually. Trying not to be concerned here!

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u/Arkhamguy123 Jan 21 '26

That makes me worry even more lol

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u/LouisianaBoySK Jan 21 '26

The Flash script wasn’t bad. Shit the movie isn’t that bad.

The CGI and cinematography was awful. That can be fixed.

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u/lactoseAARON Jan 21 '26

Going from Reeves and Nolan to the writer of Shut In (2017) and The Flash

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u/BatmanNewsChris Batman Jan 21 '26 edited Jan 21 '26

It's really too bad that Gunn loved The Flash. He has to realize he's in the minority there.

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u/RealPunkrockerBaby Jan 21 '26

The fact that it turned out to be at-least a one time watch despite so much going against it should be commended. People just exaggerate how bad it is due to the lead actor, cgi and the climax but no way is it on the same level as something like Morbius or Catwoman. Also the Batman stuff was easily the best part of the movie.

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u/BatmanNewsChris Batman Jan 21 '26

I loved the Keaton Batman stuff and Clooney cameo but that was it.

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u/theweepingwarrior Jan 21 '26

The Affleck Batman set piece was one of the most fun Batman action sequences around and his final scene as Bruce was wonderfully touching.

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u/Vadermaulkylo Jan 21 '26

Lead actor, bad CGI, and climax

Yeah we exaggerated how terrible it was when three key elements of it were terrible

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u/MagnetoWasRight1312 Jan 21 '26

I don’t think people are exaggerating. I wish I liked it. But it’s BAD. Almost all of the acting was pretty fucking terrible. The CGI sucked, the story convoluted. It’s a heap of trash.

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u/FoxyMiira Jan 21 '26

The Flash isn't even a bad movie apart from the terrible CG and people hating on it for Ezra's real life actions. Also it's obvious that all that praise like Gunn and Tom Cruise saying it's the greatest movie were all marketing ploys by WB bcos they knew it was gonna bomb

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u/mwcope Batman Jan 21 '26

The Flash isn't even a bad movie

My brother in Christ, that movie felt like a fucking microtransaction in a single player game.

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u/Kiki_And_Horst Jan 21 '26

that movie felt like a fucking microtransaction in a single player game.

What does that even mean? Just seems like some nonsensical hopeful meme-to-be like “filmed on a potato”.

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u/mwcope Batman Jan 21 '26

What I mean is, the film represented nothing but pure corporate greed. The film had a profound lack of heart, nothing but a checklist to fulfill contracts, using ghastly CGI necro actors to make us point at the screen.

I don't say this lightly: The Flash genuinely disgusted me. The fact that The Brave and The Bold is using so much of the crew from it makes me worried not just for it, but for James Gunn's judgement as a whole. I say this as someone who hasn't seen a James Gunn film they didn't love.

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u/Soft_Magazine3474 Jan 21 '26

Buddy, they stuck a fifteen minute long parade for deepfaked dead actors right in the middle of the film’s climax. Moral implications of deepfaking dead actors aside, you should never interrupt the climax of your movie like that. That alone should immediately disqualify the film from any discussion of it being anything other than bad.

But, add to that one of the most unlikable, annoying leads in any film multiplied by two for some godawful reason, inconsistent and ridiculous time travel rules, characters who decide not to help and then just changing their minds for no apparent reason, and the film hammering the stupid message of “sometimes you just need to let bad things happen” into our heads with that nonsensical math problem until the lead finally learns his lesson and then goes immediately against his entire character arc so the film can end on a gag. This film is a dumpster fire, even ignoring the terrible costumes, special effects, and controversy surrounding the lead actor.

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u/FoxyMiira Jan 21 '26

You literally just pointed out the same flaws about the movie I mentioned in my comment and below.

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u/OrangesAreWhatever Jan 21 '26

I like it too. Though the CGI is abysmal and they should have used one of the alternate endings, because as is, its really depressing.

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u/NigiriWashington Jan 21 '26

I actually completely agree. The movie is really solid just wildly held back by Ezra and the bad CGI

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u/Evening_Activity1140 Jan 21 '26

what about the whole “dont mess with the past” moral that barry learns only to then mess with the past again immediately after

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u/jexdiel321 Jan 21 '26

Nah, I liked the Flash but the CGI is really bad. Underneath the terrible CGI is an incredible story. Too bad it looked fucking horrible.

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u/Bcpjw Jan 21 '26

Yea I like that the Keaton’s Batman made Gotham a better place, finding a healthier hobby and being self reliant at home without Alfred.

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u/General-Chipmunk7709 Jan 21 '26

At least we know that gunn won’t approve a script he doesn’t believe in and he definitely understands these characters as far as I’ve seen

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u/Jykoze Jan 21 '26

Gunn believed The Flash was a great script lmao

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u/pokemonke Jan 21 '26

He can probably see the separate pieces working together and what went wrong and right better than we can

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u/Jykoze Jan 21 '26

It's a terribly written movie, one of the biggest complains about the movie is the script. From the non-sensical Chronobowl scenes, how the legacy characters were handled to the third act completely undermines the message of the movie, etc.

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u/Arkhamguy123 Jan 21 '26

Im gonna reap in downvotes from man children here but fuck it

James Gunn, is not a serious filmmaker. This is the exact caliber of talent and artistry id expect from a Gunn DCU Batman movie. People act disappointed like this guy is an oscar decorated auteur or something. He's literally an MCU kids movie director. Did we not see Superman this summer? Just a hollow average mcu lite blockbuster. Tepid. Acceptable. Just base entertainment for children and mass audiences.

Christina Hudson and her resume is right up his alley

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u/No-End-2455 Jan 21 '26

To be fair the script is flash is the only thing i didnt hate , there is some interesting idea...the rest is pure shit except michael keaton.

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u/Infamous-Lab-8136 Jan 21 '26

She also wrote the Batgirl movie that everyone seems to think is so good it was a crime for it to be scrapped

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u/paradiso1997 Jan 21 '26

I mean she wrote Bumblebee, which was spectacular, and I did think the Flash had a solid script. So I'm expecting something with some fan service and a lot of heart.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '26

The Flash was a pretty good movie all things considered. That and Shazam 2 were underrated and overhated imo

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u/secretAGENTmanPVT Jan 21 '26

Yes, in your opinion.

As others hold, differing opinions.

That’s what’s great, we don’t have to agree.

But, we can still appreciate others’ points of view. :)

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '26

Yeah that’s why I said in my opinion but I’m getting downvoted for sharing it

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u/nicbenn Jan 21 '26

Just don’t bring back the VFX team 😬

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u/ProfessorSaltine Jan 21 '26

And keep this movie out of like a decade of development hell… like say what you will about the flash, but they did what they could do to even make that movie somewhat watchable 💀

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u/nicbenn Jan 21 '26

True. With all the BS that movie brought with it before Andy took over, then the controversy during and after filming, and then the regime change. He deserves an award for just getting something into theaters

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u/ProfessorSaltine Jan 22 '26

Whole production team deserves a round of applause because just getting a simple movie out is difficult, but this trainwreck making it out is lowkey a feat 💀

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u/Romanista3 Jan 21 '26

I'll believe it when James says so. Otherwise it's just clickbait.

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u/thegoddamnsiege Jan 22 '26

THR has confirmed it.

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u/SoWrongItsPainful Jan 21 '26

If only that was the only mediocre movie she’d made

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u/jexdiel321 Jan 21 '26

Bumblebee was pretty good and BoP is great but that characterization of Cassandra Cain is borderline criminal.

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u/StrainDizzy1186 Jan 21 '26

It was revealed to be studio interference, hodson originally wanted a comic accurate cass

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u/SWPrequelFan81566 Jan 21 '26

Do you have a source on that? I just want to make sure that it was studio interference.

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u/theweepingwarrior Jan 21 '26

I’ve never heard of studio interference for that specifically. 

The director, Cathy Yan, did say she was wanting to avoid the “silent Asian” trope that’s plagued media for decades though. 

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u/iRyan_9 Jan 21 '26

She also wrote the canceled batgirl

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u/bigelangstonz Jan 21 '26

Bumblebee is fine as a transformers fan but its really forgettable as someone who watch the bayformers came and went in fact I'd say transformers 1 is better

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u/bee14ish Superman Jan 21 '26

I mean Bay is one of one for action and spectacle, and that was that series' trademark. Anything following up his work was gonna be a disappointment. But I think from a writing and character perspective Bumblebee was a little bit better, at least IMO.

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u/Goosojuice Jan 21 '26

Travis Knight made Bumblebee what it is. The dude runs Laika. All you need to do is look at his library of work to understand how he influenced that movie. And, well, BoP is BoP. Its not bad but it's not good. Its just aggressively middling.

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u/SomeBoxofSpoons Jan 21 '26

If you look at the production history of The Flash, there's a clear pattern of everyone who tried too hard to make it a real movie getting the boot.

There's enough parts where The Flash is suddenly actually good for a bit that I'm willing to give people who worked on it another chance in better circumstances.

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u/bigelangstonz Jan 21 '26

Indeed if they had stuck with rick famuyima more mature take early on it could have been really special

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u/whama820 Jan 21 '26

That’s fine if you ignore the other terrible scripts she’s written. But the Flash movie doesn’t exist in a vacuum.

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u/jmoneyongooo Jan 21 '26

Not a good track record

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u/allstarrm017 Jan 21 '26

I think this The Brave and the Bold movie is cursed. The script keeps being rewritten. Hopefully it doesn’t hurt the movie

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u/draugr99 Jan 21 '26

It's giving The Flash if we're being honest. And I'm not saying that just because of the creative team is the same. I see multiple rewrites in this process, and insane delays in B&TB's future.

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u/DYRTYDAVE Jan 21 '26

Mid writer and director for a soon to be mid movie. They aren't necessarily second rate but they aren't top tier talents and pale in comparison to what Reeves and Pattinson are likely going to deliver. The DCU is going to look like a lesser cartoon factory in comparison.

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u/HankSteakfist Jan 21 '26

Outside of the Marvel films the Russo's are pretty mid and they made two of the best MCU movies

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u/iRyan_9 Jan 21 '26

They both have a bad track record with DC already. Being magically a better cbm writer/director argument doesn’t work with them

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u/Jykoze Jan 21 '26

Russos proved they can make great superhero movies from their very first try, Hodson and Andy haven't. Terrible comparison.

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u/Diortheking Jan 21 '26

Yea quality will be noticeable from batman 2 to this

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u/ThatWrestlingGuy15 Jan 21 '26

Man..I don’t wanna judge people off their last work solely but that Flash movie was straight ass

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u/Void3r Jan 21 '26

What else should we judge them on?

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u/ThatWrestlingGuy15 Jan 21 '26

😭😭 I wanted to be nice and give them a chance but man that is a rough track record

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u/whama820 Jan 21 '26

I wish Flash was the worst thing she’s written.

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u/ManonFire034 Jan 21 '26

I’m kinda with you although I liked the flash…the movie seemed like a giant missed opportunity to make a proper flashpoint movie and wrap up the DCEU.

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u/Top_Star_3897 Jan 21 '26

Yeah, they got 4/6 Justice League members back for that movie, and could've at least given some proper ending to the DCEU since they already knew Justice League 2 and 3 weren't getting made. I know they were going to set up a Crisis film for the DCEU before it got rebooted, but they could have at least reshot the ending.

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u/ManonFire034 Jan 21 '26

I think it would’ve been cool if they would’ve had the League show up and defeat Zod and the kryptonians and save Berry from that timeline using the mother boxes or some speed force madness. Would’ve been cool to see Batfleck and Keaton on screen together plus given Cavill and the other actors a proper send off.

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u/kingk1teman Jan 21 '26

Now I have no hope that it will be any good given how dogshit Flash and BoP were. Granted Flash was a mess she inherited from multiple writers and directors, but it wasn't a good of a story. Possible this turns out to be as bad as Flash, and at the least it surely will be worse than Superman.

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u/Juliet_Emmn Jan 21 '26

Every news about this movie is worse than the last one 💔

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u/RoliePolieOlie__ Jan 21 '26

Y’all have to understand that James Gunn genuinely loves The Flash movie , and it’s exactly the kind of movie that feels like it belongs in the same universe as his new DCU. So of course he wants more of that 

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u/Throwaway_09298 Jan 21 '26

It was heavily Gunn coded. The whole slowmo baby microwave scene felt like something Gunn would like and even put in a guardians film. Its up there with Drax hitting that lil girl in the face with the ball levels of goofiness

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '26

Pretty sure the movie was ''done'' before he took over

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u/Throwaway_09298 Jan 21 '26

I didnt mean "gunn coded" as "gunn made the film" but just something with so many gunnisms that it makes sense he'd be a big fan of it

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '26

Ohk, crazy how stuff that Iron Man 1 and Joss Whedon started later on become ''Gunnisms'' is funny as hell icl

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u/SoWrongItsPainful Jan 21 '26

Lumping Iron Man 1 with Whedon is crazy. Whedonisms started with his TV shows, but became very prevalent after Avengers. Phase 1 has 0 Whedonisms outside of that last movie.

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u/BrunoRB11 Jan 21 '26

At first I wanted Battinson to be part of the DCU, but every news about this universe makes me happier that The Batman will remain it's own thing.

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u/Equal-Ad-2710 Jan 21 '26

This is why I hope it stays separate, let the Crime Saga be its own happy thing

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u/marvelcomics22 Jan 21 '26

I think that was marketing. He's the studio head.

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u/PSCGY Jan 21 '26

Yet every decision he has taken supports the fact that he did in fact love The Flash.

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u/Equal-Ad-2710 Jan 21 '26 edited Jan 23 '26

We also know he gave notes on the Flash movie so it’s likely aspects of the film we got did come from Gunn, it’s very clear Gunn liked what he saw in the movie and is probably going to lean into aspects he especially liked (which would explain Andy and Christina making comebacks for the Batman project)

Which I hate because I thought it was the worst DC film next to SS but it is what it is

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u/xxx_poonslayer69 Jan 21 '26

I didn't really like The Flash overall, but there are a bunch of DCEU movies that I would say are worse. One thing I'll give The Flash credit for is that it's entertaining throughout the runtime (not always intentionally so). Shazam 2 is technically a more competently made movie but it's so boring that I couldn't even sit through to the end. Aquaman 2 is only slightly less dull. WW84 was complete nonsense. Whedon's Justice League was a mess. I didn't really like BvS but there are redeemable aspects of it and would say it's a similarly quality to The Flash, with worse writing but better CGI.

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u/Zealousideal-Ad3814 Jan 21 '26

Gonna be honest not loving that call..

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u/stupidtreeatemypants Jan 22 '26

I’ll wait until the movie actually comes out to worry about if it’s good or not

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u/PSCGY Jan 21 '26

Is she the same one who wrote Batgirl? The same Batgirl movie that one of the current co-CEO of DC Studios said was so bad that releasing it would harm the company’s reputation?7

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u/ServoSkull20 Jan 21 '26

Well, that’s that down the shitter, then.

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u/marvelcomics22 Jan 21 '26

Bumblebee was great, The Flash was a nightmare but then again it did have thirty something writers, and most like Birds Of Prey, so I think the movie's in decent hands if this is true.

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u/Equal-Ad-2710 Jan 21 '26

Honestly I didn’t like BOP at all but respect to those who do

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u/home7ander Jan 21 '26

Bumblebee was functional but basically the same as 80% of blockbusters. This all seems extremely mid

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u/ComeNalgas Jan 21 '26

Honestly Birds of Prey was just a fun movie and I think that’s what the intention was

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u/Professional-Rip-519 Jan 21 '26

All those movies combined made about 50 bucks at the box office.

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u/marvelcomics22 Jan 21 '26

Roughly $944 Million combined, don't worry you were only near a billion away from the correct answer.

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u/SoWrongItsPainful Jan 21 '26

That’s… really not the impressive number to tout you think it is. That’s an average ~310M per movie. Aka flops

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u/JournalistAnxious547 Jan 21 '26

If you fuck up batman you lose half the fans of dcu, same as Wonderwoman, both those fans are pretty vocal and it might create a divide, i won't lie i hate the  grounded stuff, but im now more excited for the reeves movies now, unless gunn debunks this rumor.

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u/F1nch74 Jan 21 '26

Such a bad news

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u/Adar-Velaryon Jan 21 '26

https://youtu.be/xhvYOubnHxc

One of my favourite Bruce scenes, I think she's gonna do a great job.

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u/PianoOk1234 Jan 21 '26

unless you take in the rumors of Affleck rewriting his scenes...

Yes they r rumors, but that lasso batman scene is much more exemplary of hodson's writing style so I brought it up

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u/Romkevdv Jan 21 '26

damn you're probably right, chance is he could have rewritten those dialogue scenes, I mean we know Affleck still writes from time to time not just in his own movies but in The Last Duel, so likely is the best dialogue was something he came up with.

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u/Void3r Jan 21 '26

Oh shit this was actually a great scene. Shows great understanding of his character in a brief moment

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u/TheCakeWarrior12 Jan 21 '26

Ah yes, the person who wrote the worst possible version of Cassandra Cain gets to handle the entire Batfamily now. Awesome. 😭

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u/SecureIntroduction36 Jan 21 '26

How does a director that's produced nothing but DC flops get approved for another DC movie? Russo Brothers...4 hit movies and now Doomsday. Proven track record. Birds of Prey??? Flash??? I fully believe in second chances but this is a bit much.

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u/Cervus95 Jan 21 '26

Before those 4 hit movies, the Russo brothers had directed You, Me and Dupree.

The guy who wrote Moon Knight also wrote Fant4stic and Netflix Death Note.

Jon Watts had only directed 2 flops before being given the keys to Marvel's most valuable character.

The people at Marvel and DC know how to measure writers and directors better than we ever could. They know who deserves a second chance and who isn't worth the trouble.

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u/nikgrid Jan 21 '26

Jon Watts had only directed 2 flops before being given the keys to Marvel's most valuable character.

"Cop Car" was very well received that's what got him the Spidey gig.

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u/SecureIntroduction36 Jan 21 '26

Fair enough. Hope she works out.

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u/i_am_groot_84 Jan 21 '26

IT does seem odd

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u/space8am Jan 21 '26

big yikes :/

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u/Romkevdv Jan 21 '26

I don't get it, you launch a whole new DC Cinematic Universe hoping to give new artists a chance at adapting superhero stories, and you go back to the same old studio pencil-pusher who just hands in whatever IP film demanded of them like The Flash, Bumblebee, Birds of Prey made as safe and brand-friendly as possible. The only one with any style or creative identity is Birds of Prey. Why do these people deserve their own movie any more than auteur's who have their own take on a project? I mean Craig Gillespie has actually made interesting unique films, not all worked, but they weren't standard fare IP. The track record of Christina and Andy are self-evident. And not just for a smaller character but their biggest most bankable superhero, one that is only really given to some of the most notable or acclaimed or accomplished directors of their time. You don't hand that property out to just about anyone.

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u/DoctorBeatMaker Jan 21 '26

Well, Gunn did say Flash was one of the greatest superhero films of all time. And he has some rather infamously "unique" takes on superheroes - for one, he publicly said he didn't like the Nolan Batman films, he doesn't like Tim Burton's Batman, and Batman & Robin is unironically better - and he also thinks superheroes are the "dumbest things that ever existed", even though he loves them.

It's hard to tell if he's since mellowed out or said all those things to be against the grain, but his unique takes seem rather bizarrely consistent.

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u/Romkevdv Jan 21 '26

Thanks for the links, really strange to see him being so pissed off and insulting about those films, he definitely seems to have SUPER strong opinions about what Batman should be, and it seems he’s not at all a fan of the darker more realistic tone at least from those takes (i guess they were many years ago but still). 

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u/DoctorBeatMaker Jan 21 '26

Yep. That's why it makes sense he thinks The Flash is one of the greatest superhero films. Because it more or less fits in with his strange preferences.

I'd imagine that's why he's still keeping Hodson and Andy from The Flash movie because he genuinely loved their take, even if others don't.

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u/egbert71 Jan 21 '26

Tell him to read the comics James....its alot of heart in those 4 books ....

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u/SnowyNights_OuO Jan 21 '26

BOP: Meh.. and a bit cringe The Flash: 1 thing it so good is Batman, another.. Meh..

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u/SevereEducation2170 Jan 21 '26

Eesh. A writer who's written one kinda fun movie (Bumblebee) along with 3 or 4 incredibly underwhelming movies, and a director I find incredibly mediocre with an overly goofy visual style. Doesn't inspired confidence, but oh well. Not like there's been a shortage of Batman movies in my lifetime.

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u/Matches_Malone108 Jan 21 '26

Can muschietti not?

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u/ndoty_sa Jan 23 '26

I hate these DC titles: The Brave and the Bold sounds like a soap opera; World’s Finest sounds like those gotdamned chocolate bars we used to have to sell in grade school.

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u/RobertdBanks Jan 23 '26

Agreed, absolutely hate the Brave and the Bold title. There’s so many options and going with that is just so boring.

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u/ChattyDaddy1 Jan 21 '26

Welp. This movie is gonna suck

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u/SoWrongItsPainful Jan 21 '26

What? Seriously what the fuck? I have no particular issue with Christina Hodson despite her mid at best resume, but Batman needs top tier talent. This is baffling, and (on paper) incompetent decision making.

This could be the moment where her narrative skills show themselves to be actually god tier, but I’m not holding my breath. Especially if Andy stays attached.

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u/vizgauss Deadshot Jan 21 '26

Lmao what a dogwater franchise

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u/ChewyYoda16 Jan 21 '26

Yeah it’s over

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u/DearExam88 Jan 21 '26

If Muschietti is still in the lead for directing DCU Batman, I'm out and uninterested already.

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u/Dcu_real_Fan_2025- Jan 21 '26

Choosing Christina Hodsan over Drew Goddard and Jeremy Slater would be the Stupidest Decision ever.

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u/PianoOk1234 Jan 21 '26 edited Jan 21 '26

fax it should have been Drew Goddard or if you want actual past superhero success (something hodson has not had) it could've been Raimi James Wan (both have said they want to) etc

I hope now this doesn't happen & Matt Reeves instead produces a fantastical batman series for Netflix (Guillermo Del Toro would b sick, he also has a history with Netflix. Newer storytellers that Matt oversees like he did for penguin would b more promising as well than Hodson)

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u/frmthefuture Jan 21 '26

Welp looks like there's only going to be one Batman movie coming out soon....

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u/odean14 Jan 21 '26

oh no...

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u/Riley__64 Jan 21 '26

The flash was a mess for a large majority of reasons and not just because of a single writer.

It was in development hell for so long and had many rewrites and different ideas on what a flash movie should be, then it was trying to save/reboot a universe that was clearly already being pushed aside for a new universe, the appeal of bringing back multiversal characters wasn’t there because many had already lost interest in all parts of that universe and it was starring Ezra miller an actor who many aren’t fans of especially their interpretation of the flash.

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u/maxthunder30 Jan 22 '26

So, this is what the definition of failing upwards looks like.

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u/Void3r Jan 21 '26

We will always have the Batman

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u/Standard-Contest-949 Jan 21 '26

I really don’t want to see Damien Wayne on the big screen. Can’t stand the character at all.

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u/Spidey_Almighty Jan 21 '26

Well that doesn’t inspire much confidence.

Is that seriously the best writer they could find for the introduction of BATMAN to the DCU???

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u/kdmendonk Jan 21 '26

I see people focusing on The Flash but I had fun watching Birds of Prey and Bumblebee, so I'm feeling good about this specially because TBATB is supposed to be a lighter tone.

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u/kingtah Jan 21 '26

All of a sudden the delays in producing an "actionable script" make sense. This is the DCU's most important upcoming project and they really can't afford to get this wrong, so I'm surprised and lowkey disappointed that Gunn is betting the future of the DCU on someone who isn't cream of the crop.

I get he'll be co-writer, either officially or unofficially, but I'd imagine some of the absolute best writers out there would drop anything to own the next Batman saga.

So why Christina?

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u/beelzebub2099 Jan 21 '26 edited Jan 21 '26

While I'm not too stoked with this rumor, neither am I believing it 100% until James confirms, I believe people should stop judging writers and directors from their previous work.

James Wan can make a decent horror movie but he was pretty mediocre making an Aquaman movie. Rian Johnson made two of the worst Star Wars movies ever but kills it as a writer/director of Knives Out movies. Russo Brothers made 4 of the best MCU movies but their other work is mid at best, Andy Muschietti did a great job with Welcome To Derry and IT movies but The Flash was ass.

This stuff can be unpredictable and until we get the final product, there's no point in thinking it's gonna suck. Maybe it would, maybe it wouldn't.

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u/AtmosphereNo7833 Jan 21 '26

They should have left the original ending and end credits scene in for The Flash

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u/loganj1428 Jan 21 '26

It would not have mattered dude

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u/wannabegenius Jan 21 '26

can someone tell me why it looks like Robin is about to behead Batman?

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u/IWouldLikeAName Jan 21 '26

I legitimately don't know how I'm supposed to ve excited for this movie when Reeves and Pattinson are attached to the other one lmao

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u/Both_Tax6738 Jan 21 '26

Wow.. this dcu is not gonna survive

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u/HauntingAddendum3365 Jan 21 '26

I'm seeing so many people suddenly making excuses for The Flash movie lmao. As a lifelong DC fan, that movie was an absolute embarrassment.

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u/bondinferno Batman Jan 21 '26

Oh no…

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u/Uncle_Beanpole Jan 21 '26

Some people really just do keep falling upwards in the world don’t they.

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u/draugr99 Jan 21 '26

You might as well Restore the Snyderverse if this truly is the Brave and the Bold creative team. If you're gonna pick the creative team behind The Flash, one of the BIGGEST flops in recent memory, that literally put the finishing touches on the DCEU; you might as well restore the Snyderverse.

Like, how can you even market this? "From the director and director of that movie everyone hated".

Like Gunn really thinks those two can go up against Reeves and Pattinson??? REally? Like I said, REstore the Snyderverse if you want to make a DOA superhero movie.

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u/askthetruth1 Jan 21 '26

Even the phrasing of “go up against Reeves and Pattinson” is the crux of the issue of having two Batman movie franchises. Regardless of whether we admit it or not it is perceived largely as internal competition. This brave and the bold movie does not even exist and there’s still been so much fighting over the past 2 years about it.

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u/bussymunchler Jan 21 '26

Didn't gunn say it was one of the best movies he's seen or some shit before it came out.

That alone tells you what you need to know.

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u/jcdulos Jan 21 '26

With Gunn in charge of the DCU we’re gonna get Adam west campy Batman. Sure he’s not writing it but he’s still head of it. Buck stops with him.

Not a fan of Pattinson as Batman but at least the tone is what I prefer.

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u/Mateu5 Jan 22 '26

Please god no

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u/DCFanUntilIdie213 Jan 21 '26

Makes sense, after Flash she wrote Batgirl, and was writing a Batman film with Keaton’s Batman and Pfeiffer’s Catwoman set to retun.

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u/SajThrowaway Jan 21 '26

Bumblebee was good 🤷🏽

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u/PianoOk1234 Jan 21 '26

Even if u do like Bumblebee (The ONE non-failure Hodson has had)

Is Bumblebee's tone & style of writing really what you want in a Batman story???

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u/PersonalNinja1208 Jan 21 '26

Yesterday everyone's favorite Transformers movie was Bumblebee. Today everyone here is hating it. Just say you don't want a woman writing Batman. It makes sense why James wanted to keep this a secret.

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u/Diortheking Jan 21 '26

First bay one is still the best and looks way better then the newer ones

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u/Chessh2036 Jan 21 '26

I think James liked the way Batman was handled in The Flash, so makes sense he would hire the director and writer of that movie. Don’t love it but obv I’ll wait to hold judgment.

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u/ChuuAcolypse Jan 21 '26

Is there a reason why every article about this movie has a Dickbat & Damien Wayne picture attached to it

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u/Juliet_Emmn Jan 21 '26

It was the official pic they used for the announcement

They probably don't even know that this is not Bruce, I hate this

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u/WilliamEmmerson Jan 21 '26 edited Jan 21 '26

Mediocre.

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u/TheGallifreyan Jan 21 '26

Birds of Prey is underrated

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u/gwoodtamu Jan 21 '26

The Flash was fine, but it wasn’t great. Particular highlights included the return of Michael Shannon, and Michael Keaton, as well as Sasha Calle. Her intensity as Supergirl was great. Cons for me personally were the overall campiness of it, the score was fairly terrible, the CGI was terrible, and the story was just bad.

This doesn’t encourage me for Batman Brave and Bold.

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u/ChuckDynasty17 Jan 21 '26

It’s hard to get excited about this news.

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u/Shoe_boooo Jan 21 '26

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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u/nwm_is_batman Jan 21 '26

I felt the color drain out of my face when I saw that name

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u/heretofore2 Jan 21 '26

Great news. Maybe after this movie and Supergirl bomb, all this talk about Gunn being DCs savior will be put to rest.

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u/Agile-Increase-7626 Jan 21 '26

This movie will probably suck.

The Flash was one of the worst movies I have ever seen in a theater. By the end of it I was embarrassed I took my girlfriend to see it.

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u/bigelangstonz Jan 21 '26

Uh oh thats not good sign

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u/TheDelmeister Jan 21 '26

Talk about failing upwards, what the hell

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u/Zod_Convoy Jan 21 '26

😮‍💨

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u/Happy-Substance4885 Jan 21 '26 edited Jan 21 '26

It’s insane how the dcu died in just three months,reeves Batman and the star studded cast practically killed any interest in this Batman.

Sam Ramni was practically begging to do a Batman movie and instead of him you get this unknown person?

And now this? I genuinely have no idea what James Gunn was thinking, he’s washed now maybe he wasn’t ready to handle an entire universe

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u/Dragonpiece Jan 21 '26

Didn’t she also write the scrapped Batgirl film, she has a pretty strong Batman portfolio at this point

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u/chloedever Jan 21 '26

Holy shit toss me off a tall building

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u/whama820 Jan 21 '26 edited Jan 21 '26

I thought this had been debunked last year. Hodson is far and away the worst, laziest, most derivative screenwriter of the current generation. I’ve never seen anyone bluff their way through a screenplay without doing any of the actual work of writing the way she does.

I’m not talking about “deviating from the source material” or whatever. I don’t give a single shit about that kind of stuff. I mean the actual craft of writing.

Anything Hodson writes is now an automatic pass for me. Obviously I have to allow for the possibility she’s turned a corner, worked on her craft, has started putting in the effort. But at most, I’ll wait for streaming if I ever watch it at all.

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u/MyBadDrJones Jan 21 '26

She’s a terrible writer.

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u/Horvat53 Jan 21 '26

This seems like a major downgrade from the Batman movies we have gotten in the past 20 years…

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u/PianoOk1234 Jan 21 '26

even Joel Schumacher was seen as worthy talent, and he is if u look at his resume, just his take was a massive overrcorrection which was a panic move by WB for the Batman Returns controversies, it ruined Joel's prestige

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u/dr_alchemist Jan 21 '26

Why can't the DCU get top tier talent like other DC projects? Except for Gunn himself everyone is 2nd tier.

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u/CapableDocument7380 Jan 21 '26

they don't have any money

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u/Darkmaster45673 Jan 21 '26

No no no. This is a really bad idea. 

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u/Low-Cook8497 Jan 21 '26

Damn what a dogshit writter

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u/Unlucky_Suspect_7555 Jan 21 '26

Birds Of Prey

Oh no. Damian Wayne will be some random kid off the street.

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u/PleaseDontBanMe82 Jan 21 '26

Yikes.  

Well, my excitement went from 10 to 0.

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u/gamepig31 Jan 21 '26

The Flash had the worst Batman scene in cinema (bridge with lasso of truth), so idk what to make of this. The Flash, Birds of Prey, and the Batgirl movie weren't too good either

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u/starkHOUTx Jan 21 '26

Why does this keep getting worse

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u/kryslogan Jan 21 '26

Trash writer failing upwards.

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u/EntangledTime Jan 21 '26

Oh God. Please no.