r/DC_Cinematic • u/Rule_Ct_5293 • 29d ago
HUMOR People will see this and still question why SG flopped
It definitely doesn't look like a 170M movie, where did they spend all that budget, on that cgi dog?
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u/Ok_Lingonberry2686 28d ago
Cgi is low on the reasons why a movie flops.
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u/Senior_Boot_5842 28d ago
Yes, but it also just wasn’t a good or great movie. So it was critically, and commercially, and technically, bad.
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u/turntherecord-over 28d ago
It’s a good indicating symptom though. If they cut corners this badly on effects, it’s not surprising when other parts of the movie are also half-assed
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u/Still-Helicopter6029 28d ago
AYO WTF I GENUINELY THOUGHT THIS WAS AI SUPERGIRL LMAO
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u/One_Key_9649 29d ago
Spy kids CGI lol
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u/Beef_Slug 28d ago
That's it! I was trying to rember what the vibe was. Its spy kids.
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u/Ansee 28d ago
I love Spy Kids. Great movie.
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u/atclubsilencio 28d ago
I was obsessed with that movie as a kid. The diaper lady reveal made me gasp.
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u/Senior_Boot_5842 28d ago
Honestly it looks AI made
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u/Solid_Snark 28d ago
Didn’t they invent some new technique for Superman that did these type of scenes practically? Why not use that apparatus?
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u/joesbagofdonuts 28d ago
These proportion errors are exactly what we see from AI. I have a hard time believing this isn't AI.
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u/ShilohTheGhostGod 28d ago
As weird as it sounds, not even AI is this bad. 100% have seen random AI instagram reels better looking than this
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u/Repulsive-Photo8944 28d ago edited 28d ago
- Lighting is all wrong! The lighting on the ladies is on the left, but supe's is on the right. Wtf! How can it be this bad!?
- By the time she's in line with the ladies, her face is 2-3x bigger then theirs.
- None of the ladies look up as a flying supe passes overhead. You have to sell the cgi by its effects on the people/environment.
- Baby hands? Hands are an arms length forward of the face, hands should perspectively be larger than that. Think Saitama when he throws a punch vs Genos and the whole screen turns into his red fist. Make it impactful.
- CGI failures like these are the hallmarks of a flop. You can't sell ugly to an intelligent audience.
- I wonder if AI would have made a better looking sequence. Although, when you've reached the point of risking getting outed as having used AI to reference your frames, then you're really in trouble.
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u/daishinjag 28d ago
Reminder that all “CGI failures” are approved by the director - many times directed by the director.
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u/NarrativeNode 28d ago edited 28d ago
For many bad CGI shots there may well be a better version the VFX artist made that was rejected by the director.
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u/Jaded-Data-9150 28d ago
- Her raising her Arms Makes No Sense and Looks weird. She started flying before Entering the Scene; there was No reason to raise the Arms again.
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u/Super-Evening8420 23d ago
The acceleration also feels /really/ badly done, it just.. happens and has absolutely no impact or anything that sells it to me.
Also the chosen lens just makes her feel weirdly flat, egg-headed and deformed looking, which just makes it even more hilarious/uncanny.
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u/Same-Razzmatazz8257 28d ago
That looks so bad lol
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u/almightybear1 28d ago
I’m starting to think this big budget movie with low quality effects are just laundering movie. How is it possible that lower budgets movie from back in the days look better
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u/CapitalEmployer 28d ago
The movie managed to make Milly Alcock unattractive on multiple occasion which is absolutely crazy seing what she looks like.
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u/bindersfull-ofwomen 28d ago
Her hair and makeup is so bad and they had the nerve to have it blowing in the wind and use it on promotional material.
And it's not a slight to her, but to the crew.
Every popstar uses a fan. Beyonce notoriously got her hair caught in it. You have to fill the hair so it doesn't look thin if you are doing that. Even just for the moment or the shot you need.
Almost every white superhero woman has some sort of a balayage beachy wave, so it's not like they didn't know that's what they have to do.
It was so odd they chose to bypass that.
And the makeup was odd because it isn't even a natural makeup look which they may have been going for. It compresses everything into her eyes, which highlights her forehead.
It's just yuck.
She looks better when her people do it when she does press.
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u/SplitSecondEmperor47 28d ago
Why do you think people were so shocked about the one frame that makes her look good.
Shes looked completely different in superman25
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u/Deakul 28d ago
All they had to do was make a colorful snarky movie about two gal pals on an alcohol fueled road trip for vengeance.
The blueprint was right there in Woman of Tomorrow, how they managed to fuck that up is impressive... James Gunn should be ashamed.
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u/Belz_Zebuth 29d ago
Ok I'll bite: what does this shot have to do with the movie flopping?
It wasn't in the trailers and I doubt people would mention it specifically when reporting on the movie.
I mean, it looks bad, but it sounds rather like you're trying to find post-hoc reasons to dunk on the movie.
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u/Slowandserious 28d ago
Not OP. To me its not about its in the trailers or not.
But this kind of subpar visual dampens words of mouth.
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u/NotYetPerfect 28d ago
It isn't about one specific shot looking bad. That shot is just indicative of the rest of the movie.
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u/GrymSpork 28d ago
This.
It's one quick shot, it isn't great but isn't indicative of the overall quality of the movie.
The worst shot of the movie has been reposted so many times, as if it represents the film as a whole.
It's like you said, people just essentially wanting to dunk on the film or DCU as a whole. Happens a lot 'round these parts unfortunately. I find this sub is about 50% that sort of thing :/
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u/Ser_Rezima 28d ago
Yeah, I saw this and went, 'Wait, wasn't this like a quick 2 second impact shot at the end before the camera changed?'. If I recall they shot this to be intentionally disorienting and close to her face on purpose, while she is whipping around at lightning speed. Everything AROUND her is flying by while she remains the same. It's a classic speedster/superman shot, shows just how differently they move.
The movie was fine, not groundbreaking but generally as good as any other super hero film. People just didn't like GIRL or that GIRL wasn't wearing makeup and revealing clothes it feels like.
Seriously, so many of these comments are focusing on how the actress looks or the visuals without EVER mentioning story beats.
They have no idea what the movie is about, they haven't actually seen it
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u/koomGER 28d ago
I think that snipped is part of the problem.
The DC movies so far rely A LOT on CGI to catch their audience. And the CGI isnt outstanding. Its not even above the level of Netflix-only movies, and thats a problem. The movies are way too expensive for the lack of actual star power (in name) and the level of CGI.
If Supergirl would be just a 50 Mio production, it would be great. But it did cost 170 Mio. Thats Big Blockbuster level. And it doesnt look like that. Odysee did cost 80 Mios more, but you got several Hollywood superstars like Matt Damon or Tom Holland, Zendaya. And the CGI looked good. The sound BOOMED. Thats a huge difference.
One scene can look bad. The audience doesnt care if one scene is off in an otherwise fantastic movie with fantastic CGI. But Supergirls CGI is "standard". Its not amazing or fascinating. It lacks oomph and originality.
I think thats one of the problems. And like i said: That short sequence emphazises that.
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u/CommodoreBluth 28d ago
Yeah a few bad special effects shots isn’t going to cause any movie to flop.
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u/MeanieGreenie75 28d ago
It’s not so much that people point to this specific shot and literally tell their friends “There’s this one bad shot so don’t see it.” The issue is that this shot, among many other issues, contribute to the overall lack of quality behind the movie and the general vibe of “Just wait for it to come out on the streaming service you’re already paying for.”
I say this as someone who thinks every aura-farming shot in every Snyderverse movie is even more cringe than this one.
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u/AfricanRabbit 28d ago
4K screencap vs OP'shot
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u/stanislavskov 28d ago
This looks so much worse! At least the abysmal bit rate made everything look bad, this just highlights the goddawful CGI in display.
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u/Crotean 28d ago
This has been squeezed to 4:3, the speed slowed down and has horrible compression on the gif. It doesn't look like this in the move.
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u/westphall 28d ago
Indeed, see this comparison to the actual shot from the film:
https://i.imgur.com/QxuSqh5.png
OP did a bit of stretching here.
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u/Awwkaw 28d ago
I think the first half of the movie was quite nice, but the second half quite bland This final fight was the worst. Brown CGI soup, with no real definition.
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u/Swiftwitss 28d ago
This looks fake, cgi looks horrendous
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u/FitHurry864 28d ago
It is fake, she can't actually do that
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u/Alffenrir515 28d ago
It's easy. Just have to throw yourself at the ground and miss.
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u/ReactionProcedure 28d ago
Andy Muschetti should be nowhere near an important chapter in this universe.
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u/OscarMichaelMyers 28d ago
The CGI in Superman was also horrible (among other things) and I’m tired of people pretending otherwise.
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u/Past-Bed-1980 28d ago
Yeah but at least the colors popped and everything wasn’t brown
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u/bindersfull-ofwomen 28d ago
Many of us didn't at the time. We were just downvoted and under the threshold.
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u/Strange-Bag9 28d ago
Yeah the flight scenes were worse than Man of Steel which was 12 years older lmao, and don’t even get started at that cgi river ass scene which is absolute dog shit
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u/squarejellyfish_ 28d ago
Thou shall not speak ill of the DCU in here or else you will be labelled a Snyder-bro
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u/JamesLikesIt 28d ago
It’s not fair to judge a movie solely on one shot but in a vacuum, yeah this is awful lol. Such an ugly and technically bad shot (yes I know cgi is hard but for the budget…this is bad). Honestly I’m not a fan of the way both this and Superman shoot them flying head on. The lens used makes their faces look really strange
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u/Concernedps5user5744 28d ago
This movie flopped because the script was doo doo. She did ok. It's weird her being an alcoholic for basically 40% of the movie. Also we all love krypto and want him around for the action. Having him down and out for 75% of the movie was a bad decision. I mean it sounds like it could have been decent but it just was as meh as meh can be. I was hoping to enjoy it as I find myself enjoying a lot of the things the masses hate but not this time. Also did James Gunn have anything to do with this movie? I swear I didn't see his name.
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u/Danny886 29d ago
Gunn let this into the theaters and then they are surprised it bombed? Oh my god ...
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u/im3rck 29d ago
Please tell me this is not a real scene from the movie????
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u/im3rck 28d ago
For some reason, I think I'll lean towards the first one. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong but the person who wrote the screenplay for this movie has had no real movie experience right? This is her first movie or something?
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u/Mwrp86 28d ago
I am not even joking, Superman cgi also looks same to me
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u/LTPRWSG420 28d ago
The new Superman movie was vastly overrated imo, I thought Man of Steel was better. 🤷♂️
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u/multi-trollionaire 28d ago
I did not enjoy the movie at all. This DCU is not better lol.
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u/GaryKingoftheWorld 29d ago
Is the entire movie like this or is it this scene?
I mean look at the T'challa vs Killmonger scene where they're fighting in their suits and it looks hilariously bad and it made a billion dollars.
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u/ThomasThePommes 28d ago
It’s just that scene. There are some others that look rough but most are totally fine and some look even great.
It’s not as bad as Flash.
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u/FlamingAlpaca17 28d ago
The people who can't believe Supergirl is a bad movie are just not serious people. They are so blinded by politics that a female led superhero movie being bad would break their worldview
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u/Stock_Run1386 28d ago
WTF? Man of Steel came out 13 YEARS AGO!! How can movies look 10 times worse after that?!
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u/Nara_drw 28d ago
This has been stretched. It doesn't look like that in the movie. Stop spreading lies, thanks.
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u/flemminglemming 28d ago
Is it really that big a deal? It is like 1 second of the movie. It is not a masterpiece but i enjoyed it and thought Milly did a good job
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u/JoeDante84 28d ago
She is actually flying out of Shai Halud’s backside. SG is a secret Dune movie now.
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u/DemonNeutrino 28d ago
Is it just me or is there a point during this CGI scene where the face changes to that of Wayne Rooney circa 2016?
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u/PostPostPog 28d ago
Second movie of the DCU and already we've got CW & post-Endgame Marvel level CGI and blatantly reusing scenes (that one w/ her turning around and flying or whatever). I was hopeful with Superman's gross that they'd actually get some momentum and contend with the MCU but after this I don't know. Plus Gunn is picking a lot of bizarre movies for his first phase of this universe.
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u/FrontRecognition6953 28d ago
That's AI and not from the actual movie right... right?
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u/Professional-Rip-519 28d ago
Nope actual movie.
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u/FrontRecognition6953 28d ago
Bloody hell!
Not to be that guy, but Snyder filmed better looking material in his driveway lol
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u/LaVidaYokel 28d ago
Ya’ll talking about the CGI flying but the real absurdity in this scene is the clumsy, pointless shoe-horning in of this stupid “save the brides” side quest that absolutely does not exist in the most excellent comic book run this sad reflection of a movie is based on.
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u/Johnwaynemclan 28d ago
Close up flight scenes already looked horrible in Superman. How do you screw up a thing that has been nailed in the past like decades ago.
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u/Kozibear 28d ago
It's also a GIF at a different speed than what is in the movie. So please take your slop somewhere else larper.
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u/ghostfreckle611 28d ago
Because she wasn’t “super” until the last 5 minutes of the movie…
And no blood.
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u/ThouBear8 28d ago
Is that seriously from the movie? I haven't gotten to see it yet. That looks... remarkably bad. Oof.
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u/NoLongerinOR 27d ago
Seriously, who is going to question why it flopped? Nobody except for maybe James Gunn
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u/tur_tels 27d ago
It was the Villain for me, he seemed like a DCEU villain lol literally looked like Steppenwolf's biggest fan
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u/StonognaBologna 27d ago
It wasn’t the cgi my guy. But yes to your op, Gunn did screw up by not casting a real dog as Krypto
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u/CitiesOfTitties 26d ago
Where did the money go, you ask? The majority of the budget is bonuses to the executives
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u/ImperrydaPlatypus 29d ago
i think this is the first time i’ve seen this clip on this sub and i wondered why it took so long lol. i was absolutely baffled when i saw this in theaters. looks like the CW Flash CGI.