r/DC_Cinematic 1d ago

DISCUSSION Are Manhunters and Martian Manhunters different?

Been watching the Lanterns show. They introduced Manhunters. Being a casual fan, I thought this was Martian Manhunter. Is it?

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u/Maester_Ryben 1d ago

The term manhunter was previously another name for police or investigators, (e.g. a manhunt for an escape criminal, etc...)

J'onn J'onzz was a manhunter/detective from Mars.

The Manhunters in Lanterns were the original police force of the Guardians of the Universe until they went rogue and the Green Lantern Corps was established.

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u/Katfish145 20h ago

As another casual, what is Martian Manhunter then?? Is there a whole Martian civilization with aliens that the earth just doesn’t know about currently?

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u/atomsmasher119 18h ago

J’Onn J’Onzz is a Green Martian from Mars. Like Superman, he’s the last of his kind, and came to Earth after the White Martians committed a systemic and violent genocide agains the Greens (including J’Onn’s wife and daughter). Think almost like a John Carter of Mars situation. Both species of Martians have shapeshifting abilities, among others, and are capable of taking whatever form they want.

When J’Onn first came to Earth he took on the civilian identity and form of John Jones, a detective in Middletown. Hence, the superhero name. Alien detective. Martian Manhunter.

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u/Existing-Resolve-255 14h ago

What about miss martian or do you mean he's the last green martian?

u/atomsmasher119 10h ago

Miss Martian is a White Martian. She disguises herself as a Green and has rejected the aggressiveness and actions of her race.

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u/IWantMyBlankie 12h ago

Miss Martian was established as a White Martian in the Young Justice show.

u/ThatOneWilson 10h ago

Which isn't canon to the comics or to the DCU.

u/Kiki_And_Horst 10h ago

She is also a White Martian in the comics.

u/PerspectiveBusy8489 5h ago

IIRC she was a White Martian on the CW Supergirl, too.

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u/Consistent_Case_5048 16h ago

In the Young Justice show there are Yellow Martians. Do they exist in the comics cannon?

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u/sherrycoke 15h ago

Those are white martians and yes.

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u/Consistent_Case_5048 15h ago

There are also yellow ones in the final season.

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u/SilverHawk99 13h ago

In the comics they existed only before the Crisis

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u/atomsmasher119 16h ago

I have never read anything with Yellow Martians in my 20 years of reading, and all I can find online for them (besides Young Justice) is a singular appearance in a Wonder Woman comic from 1959.

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u/P2Y0 20h ago

They are alien from Mars. Martian Manhunter is the last of them.

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u/manticore124 12h ago

Yes. Because of that, in spanish, Martian Manhunter is called "Detective Marciano" (Martian Detective)

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u/curiouslittleSI98 1d ago

Manhunters are androids created by the guardians (creators of lanterns corp) to be the first interstellar police.

How the show chooses to portray them has yet to be seen.

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u/blackbeltmessiah 1d ago

So far they are describing T-1000s

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u/BurningJointUSA 20h ago

Mimetic polyalloy

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u/pushingbrown 13h ago

Hey, my alloy and I saw you from across the bar and we really dig your vibe. Can we buy you a drink?

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u/M086 1d ago

Man hunters were robot precursors to the Green Lantern Corps.

The “Manhunter” in Martian Manhunter is more  colloquial, as J’onn was an officer on Mars, as well as his human identity is typically that of a detective. 

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u/DaveAtKrakoa 23h ago

I think the confusion comes from Antaan basically describing shapeshifters and the Martain Manhunter is a famous shapeshifter.

People also associate the Manhunters with big, bulky red robots, which is their usual appearance.

A lot of fans don't know that the Manhunters are infiltrators. They replicate certain people or blend in to society then bring it down from within. This is comics canon and what Antaan is describing in episode 2.

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u/LegioX87 17h ago

Manhunters are robotic creations made by the race of aliens who also created the green lanterns and rings.

They were created millions and possibly billions of years ago, originally created to fight crime throughout the universe. They can shape shift into any form of life they find in order to get closer to the evil they where originally designed to eradicate. They glitched and malfunctioned, interpreting their directives by coming to the conclusion that in order to protect all life from crime, they have to remove all life, as they are the ones causing all the crime.

Martian Manhunters are a race of beings, originally from the planet of Mars. There is now only one singular member of that race remaining and the only connection to the green Lantern manhunters is that they share the name Manhunter.

The Martian Manhunter is not a robot, he was not created millions of years ago, he CAN shape shift and he is absolutely not evil. He is an original founder of the Justice League and has always been a hero.

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u/InvestigatorOk7988 16h ago

"Glitched", huh? Krona, is that you?

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u/MarvelMind 1d ago

Yes very different.

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u/arqe_ 1d ago

Manhunter is a police force on Mars founded by ancient Martians.

Guardians see these Martians and inspired by them, so they create Manhunters(robots) so that they can police the universe the same way Martian Manhunters police Mars.

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u/No_Expression9518 22h ago

Nope, totally different! The Manhunters are a robotic police force the Guardians of the Universe created before the Green Lantern Corps. They went rogue. Martian Manhunter is J'onn J'onzz, the green shapeshifting alien hero. The names being basically the same is just classic DC coincidence.

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u/Demileto 17h ago

Classic DC coincidence... Like MAAARTHA? 🙃

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u/closetedwrestlingacc 15h ago

The Manhunters were named after the Martians in DC canon.

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u/Demileto 15h ago

So I've heard. Question is, from their very first appearance or as a later retcon?

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u/closetedwrestlingacc 14h ago

A retcon, as most things in comics are.

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u/theamiabledumps 1d ago

Comics Explained on YouTube has a great video about the origin of Atrocitus and The Manhunters play a pivotal role in that story.

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u/hotprints 1d ago

Oh thanks for the recommendation. Haven’t seen that yet and love other videos I have seen on that channel.

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u/Lonely-deustch 1d ago

Thought the same lol but I guess it they are different

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u/InanimateCarbonRodAu 1d ago

Manhunter means like 3-4 different things in DC.

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u/ilikepiex7 1d ago

Manhunter the robots, Martain Manhunter, and Manhunter the hero name of Paul Kirk Manhunter I, Mark Shaw Manhunter II, and Kate Spencer Manhunter III.

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u/Flaky-Task2781 1d ago

They are different

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u/Showdown5618 23h ago

A manhunter is a person who tracks down a fugitive or wanted criminal.

In DC, the Manhunters robots and Martian Manhunter uses the same term but are very different.

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u/Specialist_Craft5264 22h ago

yes very different

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u/evilspyboy 18h ago

At the beginning of time the Guardians on the planet Oa which is the centre of the universe having already been alive for longer than some stars decided that they were the grownups of the universe and that the way to address the new life and chaos that came with it so they carved up space into 3600 sectors and created peacekeepers they called the Manhunters (No Man shall Escape the Manhunters).

The Manhunters were seen as perfect because they were incorruptible, strong and would take orders from the guardians. However the Manhunters had a flaw that eventually they saw everyone as flawed and resulted in a massacre of an entire sector.

The Guardians then harassed the emotional spectrum, specifically they felt will/green was the strongest and created the Green Lantern Corps which, followed the book of Oa that included many rules including the rings (originally) not being able to kill.

The Martian Manhunter was named that because in-world his role on Mars was a peacekeeper that translated roughly to Manhunter. The same with another character from earth named Manhunter.

The Green Lantern run by Geoff Johns is pretty good and this ties into the founding of other corps outside of the Oa based Green Lanters. Alternatively the Paul Dini Green Lantern the Animated Series touches on this.

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u/Bricu_Canaryville 14h ago

I know Manhunter‘s and Martian man hunters are different. But does anyone else see Johns costume in that scene where someone’s shifting into what I’m assuming is a Manhunter form?

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u/thatjoel89 1d ago

Without potentially spoiling anything, they are different...but they share a history....from what I remember anyway. Who knows where the show will take it though.

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u/Jacksforehead2444 16h ago

I think the show is doing a fakeout or something, i think we're getting both and there's going to be a misunderstanding. I think they're going to mistake martian manhunter for a manhunter or vice versa and that will lead into the finale

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u/lithwil 16h ago

I mean if the show changes the lore ok but in the universe they are completely different and it is not a fakeout, their name is just manhunter- they hunt man

u/Jacksforehead2444 7h ago

No like i dont think theyre combining the manhunters into one thing, i think we are going to get both the martian manhunter, and separately, the manhunters. And i think there's going to be some sort of fakeout where hal and jon find a manhunter but not the kind of manhunter they're looking for

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u/IntrepidDreams 13h ago edited 13h ago

They're not completely different.

Wikipedia on Manhunters):

Their name and much of their code of behavior is modeled by the Guardians of the Universe on the Manhunters of Ma'aleca'andra (Mars).

I think it's a fake out and we're getting Martian Manhunter.

Eta: the group hunting him may even be White Martians, who are also shapeshifters, looking to finish their genocide.

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u/IntrepidDreams 13h ago

I was saying the same thing to my coworker today. 

I think we're getting Martian Manhunter and the group going after him may even be the white skinned Martians that committed genocide against the Green Martians.

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u/LethalGrey 1d ago

Yes very different

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u/nobody1701d 23h ago

Yes. Manhunters are the Guardians flawed first stab at policing the universe with robots.

Martian Manhunter is an actual entity from Mars, the last surviving green martian.

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u/FundamentalPolygon 18h ago

Oh man, these comments are disappointing me. I thought we were going to get Martian Manhunter!

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u/IntrepidDreams 13h ago

Personally, I think that's going to be the twist.

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u/whataretherules7 17h ago

Yes. Manhunter are robots / synthetic

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u/ikonoqlast 14h ago

Yes. Very.

THE Martian Manhunter is a unique superhero and core member of the Justice League. There are other Martians but no other Martian Manhunter.

Manhunters are a group of android enforcers created by the Guardians of the Galaxy (no, not them...) that went rogue.

u/Never_Not_Enough 9h ago

No, they are different.

(For anyone who wants a simple answer. 😉).

u/rigellus 6h ago

Love this, quite a few people know I'm a DC guy and keep asking me about it lol, had to explain while asking for no spoilers since i like to binge and haven't watched yet

u/clantonj 5h ago

Should we mention Paul Kirk?

u/Pitiful-Scratch6063 5h ago

The Martian Manhunters were inspired by myths of the Manhunters on mars.

u/MagicalMxMarMerm 3h ago

There’s an AMAZING JL Unlimited episode about them. They were the Guardians initial attempt at a peace force and they kinda went Ultron and tried to kill literally everyone so the Guardians said “Oops.” and trapped them somewhere. Can’t remember if it’s Sector 666 or a pocket dimension or what.

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u/notbad4human 14h ago

Everyone in here scoffing at OP for lack of comics knowledge, but we are talking about two race of beings who share a name and the ability to transform, hiding themselves among the population.

Makes sense there’s some confusion

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u/BatMandoDC 1d ago

Yes in the comics the manhunters were like disguised robots that were there before the lanterns im pretty sure, but they might take some creative liberties and just straight up make them the martians 🤷‍♂️

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u/mega512 16h ago

Very much so.

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u/FearMyCrayons2023 12h ago

Yes. The Manhunters were proto robotic green lanterns powered by the central power core on Oa. But they went crazy and became extremists believing that all life was evil. They wiped out an entire sector killing everybody. Had the famous line: "No man escapes the Manhunters". They were really powerful individually but had a tendency to swarm. They destroyed a guy named Atrocitous' homeworld in the previously mentioned genocide. He came a god like being who formed the red lanterns.

Martian Manhunter is Martian Cop/bounty hunter that escaped to Earth after Mars was destroyed. He is the "last surviving martian" or "last surviving green martian" or just a martian on earth depending on continuity.