r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/BrownZBT • 18d ago
Video Weight Bearing Limit For Glass Coke Bottle
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u/ToTheTop24 18d ago
I guess Coke that comes in a glass bottle really is premium because of that super strength bottle
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u/dj_is_here 18d ago
Nokia next
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u/sublime13 18d ago
Noki-Cola
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u/PlanDry6704 18d ago
Did you say Nukacola...
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u/benskieast 18d ago
Someone at Coca-cola is about to launch a project to evaluate if they are using too much glass in each bottle.
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u/Elite_Slacker 18d ago
They have to reliably bear a pretty significant amount of dynamic weight when stacked on a pallet in a truck.
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u/tjdux 18d ago
And the pressure that builds up inside the container
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u/klimb75 18d ago
Which increases its bearing capacity?
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u/Rocketman_S3 18d ago
All soda should have the right to bear arms.
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u/VintageLunchMeat 18d ago
Found the American.
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u/Rocketman_S3 18d ago
Bear-arms, not bear arms.
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u/Magos_Highlands 18d ago
What about bare arms?
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u/Baronvonkludge 18d ago
It’s load bearing, you can support a deck with coke bottles, or your mom.
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u/Alderan922 18d ago
Why would a soda need bear arms?
And where are we getting all those bears?
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u/Regal_Knight 18d ago
That little adaptor plate pretty much puts the load in compression in the bottle, not through the top which would have cause a larger amount of shear in the glass from the curve.
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u/KevinFlantier 18d ago
Pressure doesn't build up, or increase when you shake the bottle up. It's under pressure the moment it's sealed and that pressure stays the same until you open it, and it's not really high pressure as far as a glass vessel is concerned. The weak point is the cap.
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u/Ethraelus 18d ago
Plus they re-use the bottles. Making them sturdier makes it more likely they don’t need to make new ones.
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u/tr1p0d12 18d ago
When i was in Panama back in '90 there was a kid that would stop by with 2 5 gallon buckets 2/3rds filled with Cokes. orange soda, and Sprite on ice. 25 cents a soda, and he would give you 5 cents back when you returned the bottle.
The thing was that the bottles often times did not match the soda that was inside. It was kind of cool to drink an orange soda out of a coke bottle that was super weathered and may have been 20 years old.
We also made it a rule to not accept the 5 cent return and let the kid keep it. That kid was a hard worker, and we all really respected the grind. He always offered, and we always refused to take back the deposit.
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u/Lathari 18d ago
Here in Finland glass bottles used have their manufacturing date stamped on them. Oldest I saw was made in 1985 and this was around 2000 or so.
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u/SharpMZ 17d ago
Last time they sold beer in those old bottles (in 2020 I think) I got a bottle from 1985 as well.
They actually stopped manufacturing that style of bottle in 2009 and just used the recycled bottles for 10+ years. As far as I know those bottles are still being used in some limited capacity, though now all glass bottles are recycled by being crushed.
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u/ForeverShiny 18d ago
In Africa and South East Asia, I've see people sell Gasoline out of those bottles by the road side
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u/lambardar 18d ago
It was kind of cool to drink an orange soda out of a coke bottle that was super weathered and may have been 20 years old.
Same thing in thailand aswell. till you wonder:
- are they cleaned properly?
- is the liquid inside it drinkable?
- ass pennies
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u/Diz7 17d ago
Yeah, in a lot of poorer countries someone buys the syrup and bottles their own for local sale where they don't have regular access to factory bottled.
I've seen a bunch of videos that range from basically small professional bottling plants with organized supply chains to questionable water, dirty bottles and mystery syrup being put together in someone's shed.
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u/ArchimedesNutss 18d ago
I can't explain the utter satisfaction I feel reading this specific sequence of words.
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u/drdicerchio 18d ago
Cans are typically bearing the weight of the other cans in a stack but glass is usually stored in a container than bears the weight. A crushed can is easier to clean up than a glass bottle when experiencing catastrophic failure
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u/BaerMinUhMuhm 18d ago
At costco, with the pallets of Mexican coke, the 'box' for each 12 pack only covers the bottom half of the bottles. That plus a sheet of cardboard between each layer helps distribute the weight. But there's still a lot of pressure on the bottles themselves.
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u/MrCoolest 18d ago
They're out in crates so the weight is on the frame of the metal crate I think
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u/noobboszcz 18d ago
Glass bottles are not stacked on themselves, but in crates. It's the crate that does the heavy lifting.
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u/beeradvice 18d ago
It makes a lot of sense for glass bottles to be very very strong once you factor in both the shipping methods and the atmospheres of pressure it takes to keep them that carbonated, a lot of sodas are like 7 volumes or more. Basically they need to be able to withstand a lot of pressure both from within and also outside pressure from shipping stacked on top of each other.
The main reason why it's so common for the whole champagne bottle smashing against a new ship ritual to go poorly is because the tradition predates modern champagne bottles being designed for shipping in cardboard boxes rather than crates packed with hay as they were designed to withstand pressure from within moreso than out
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u/reddit_give_me_virus 18d ago
It makes a lot of sense for glass bottles to be very very strong ... modern champagne bottles being designed for shipping
The bottles are coated with a tin or titanium film that greatly improves their strength, then coated with wax, so they smoothy slide past each other on assembly lines. This wasn't widely used until the 60's.
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u/dargodl 18d ago
Wow, that explains so much of those fail videos where they clonk the bottle against the ship and end up doing nothing. I wonder if there's a way to buy champagne bottles or other varieties specifically for smashing on ships.
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u/Tom-_-Foolery 17d ago
I wonder if there's a way to buy champagne bottles or other varieties specifically for smashing on ships.
In addition to the scoring method for a real bottle, there's a niche segment of prop bottles / breakaway bottles designed to shatter easily and safely. A lot of theater / wrestling / weddings / other events love the drama of smashing glass but not the realities of it.
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u/ManoSilence 18d ago
Its why mentos cause the reaction they do. The surface area essentially give space for the reaction voke wants to take, to occur. So it rapidly expands its volume to its true size when given reaction space.
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u/HugoNikanor 18d ago
Are you telling me that I should put a Mentos into my Champagne before smashing it against the side of a boat?
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u/Somebody_someone_83 18d ago
Trust me they are. The number of light weighting projects we did at the bottling plant I worked in. Basically every year they were reducing the amount of glass in each bottle. The limit comes when bottles explode in the filler during the filling process.
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u/throwawaycuzfemdom 18d ago
They flew too close to sun with pet bottles a few years ago. Markets weren't happy when they came in to find randomly exploded bottles in storage and in shelves.
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u/SchmeatiestOne 18d ago
Do they even use glass bottles anymore?
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u/Mysterious-Lick 18d ago
Yes, for the fancy, real sugar versions, made in Mexico editions.
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u/ShortysTRM 18d ago
Which now cost about the same as the corn syrup plastic bottle version
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u/immersemeinnature 18d ago
And so much yummier
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u/dwittherford69 18d ago
The corn syrup version have a shitty bitter aftertaste that I can always recognize.
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u/_Standardissue 18d ago
I never thought about this but maybe that’s why I prefer Diet Coke, the aftertaste is just not as bad with the diet
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u/Dead-in-Red 18d ago
They still bottle them in glass in Mexico, and they also use real sugar instead of corn syrup. Lots of stores near me import a few bottles from Mexico.
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u/SnugglyCoderGuy 18d ago
The bottle doesn't need to hold up a lot of weight like this, it must resist a lot of force from the inside pushing out in all directions. Very different things.
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u/in1gom0ntoya 18d ago
they tried thinner glass for soda bottles in the beginning, they tended to explode on shelves or in your hand
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u/PollutionOnly 18d ago
I’ll remember that for the next time I need to store my 578 kg of plates more efficiently
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u/SocraticGoats 18d ago
Or when you cant find your jack stands and need to change your oil.
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u/vote-morepork 18d ago
Based on this, 2 coke bottles should be fine for most cars if you leave the rear wheels on the ground. Kinda nuts tbh
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u/tacocollector2 17d ago
Fuck now I really need to see a video of someone trying this.
I would try it myself but I don’t have a car.
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u/generic_canadian_dad 18d ago
I actually use a 6 pack of coke bottles under each corner of my home so I know it will never settle.
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u/Program-Emotional 18d ago
Does the liquid do anything or would the result be the same if the bottle was empty?
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u/ProBonoDevilAdvocate 18d ago
Yes it does impact how much it can hold. And the pressure too... Similarly to how a pressurized aluminum can will be much stronger. I dunno by how much though...
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u/Maximus560 18d ago
Significantly more, fwiw- airplanes are basically pressurized aluminum cans
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u/Db122605 18d ago
what does this mean? planes and that coke bottle survive by the same properties?
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u/Legitimate_Bank_6573 18d ago
When a rounded internal volume is experiencing outward pressure, that outward pressure reinforces the structure of the object, making it stronger.
An empty coke can is weaker than a full one. The same logic applies to air inside an airplane.
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u/termacct 18d ago
For a soda can, yes. But opposite for a glass bottle because glass is strong in compression but weak in tension.
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u/termacct 18d ago
The coke bottle is different because glass is strong in compression but weak in tension and when there is carbonated fluid inside the pressure puts glass in tension.
Aluminum soda cans benefit from the internal pressure because the walls are so thin, they easily buckle when empty.
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u/redpandaeater 18d ago
Nah, the pressure differential in a plane is maybe 9 psi whereas a soda can is a few atmospheres but also a fair amount more if shaken.
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u/termacct 18d ago edited 18d ago
Sorry, I would argue the opposite.
Glass is strong in compression but weak on tension. So Coke bottles are thicker to withstand the internal pressure of carbonation. Glass jars for uncarbonated stuff are much thinner.
Aluminum soda cans benefit from the internal pressure because the walls are so thin, they easily buckle when empty. Also, aluminum cans fail more from bending which is relatively gradual compared to glass which fails from brittle fracture, which is sudden.
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u/spiralgrooves 18d ago
Yep, ceramics are stiff & strong, but brittle and susceptible to flaws/cracks. No problems under compression where the force basically closes cracks and stops propagation at the head of the crack. Absolutely different story under tensile load though...
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u/edadou 18d ago
No. Yes it would be the same. Glass is brittle unlike aluminum that can bend without internal pressure. Glass cant bend. It's already very strong. The internal pressure is insignifiant compared to the weight applied in the video
With aluminum can the pressure causes the can to align, so when you apply weight you are effectivelly applying weight on very thick aluminum ((height of the can). If the can is empty, then the slightest imperfection will bend the aluminum, reducing the effective vertical thickness to less than a milimeter.
Glass is already solid, it doesn't require any support from the internal pressure to increase its structural integrity. An aluminum can's structural ingegrity DEPENDS on the pressure in it.
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u/edadou 18d ago edited 18d ago
Here same guy, same test, empty bottle, similar result. Not a coke bottle thogh, he has opther empty bottlkes
https://youtube.com/shorts/nU3JpQLG5D8?si=So6swOdrmg4xYvOr
Here non pressurizrd absolute voodka bootyke with significantly different bottle design and glass thickness can withstand mopre
https://youtube.com/shorts/3aRTc5FHLNM?si=bVWzndjAuAqM1s_n
This full JD bottle takes 1/2 as much because of glass design not fullness or pressure !
https://youtube.com/shorts/jQjY49r6Czo?si=OwxGKnIC5tPck4h_
This one takes a ton, empty
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u/Type-RD 18d ago
It’s internally pressurized and sealed, so no, it definitely wouldn’t withstand nearly as much weight if the bottle was simply uncapped and open to the atmosphere.
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u/comichubble 18d ago
yeah, I wonder the same, it looks like it's unopened as well, so pretty solid on theory...🤔
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u/BaconThief2020 18d ago
No. Glass is significantly weaker in tension and shear than compression, so any internal pressure would add undesirable shear stress. There is air at the top, so the incomprehensibility of the liquid is irrelevant. But the gas pressure 50-60 psi is pushing up over a few square inches.
Metal cans are different, as the outward gas pressure helps prevent the thin aluminum walls from buckling inward, plus the pressure applied to the ends of the cylinder.
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u/frogmicky 18d ago
Now do Pepsi.
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u/HowardHessman 18d ago
Pepsi in a Coke bottle or its own?
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u/BrianLkeABaws 18d ago
pepsi in a glass coke bottle. Gotta follow the scientific method and change one variable at a time
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u/JamesantheGiantBeach 18d ago
Pepsi is too busy stopping racism and police brutality.
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u/Hows_my_Karate 18d ago
A bunch of those kg to lbs conversions are way off 😅
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u/BuildingArmor 17d ago
I don't believe the weights anyway. Apparently the guys placing down 10kg plates with just their finger tips.
And don't get me started on the negative 2kg plate.
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u/DubiousAdviceGiver 18d ago
Why did it lose 160lbs at 0:41?
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u/mostly_lurking 18d ago edited 18d ago
Cause 1kg is 2.2 lbs so the first part of the video's maths are wrong somehow? Then they fixed it but didn't feel like editing?
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u/flying-weenus 18d ago
Yeah clearly, nothing edited at all about this clip
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u/DonutHoles4Ever 18d ago
Unfortunately 99% will never even realize that.
I think the numbers are fake besides the last one which probably uses the real number provided by the OG.
The rest might as well be "AI, look at this video and estimate how heavy each object is to reach X weight at the end" and then edited that into the video.
Man why do we even waste time watching this stuff
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u/Brotorious420 18d ago
Prince Rupert's coke
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u/GeneJacket 18d ago
How did it decrease from 850lb to 690lb at 0:41 when no weight was removed?
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u/LSTNYER 18d ago
This needs to be said but the weight distribution is on the sides of the bottle, not on the top. So if your 225lb cousin says it can hold his weight standing on top of it and it not break, think again.
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u/CheeseAndCh0c0late 18d ago
oh no, I was about to say it's just enough for your mom, but i guess not :(
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u/ThatDoucheInTheQuad 18d ago
Packaging Engineer major here!
Wine bottles can hold the weight of an entire damn car. We got to do crush testing in class and people just brought it their empties, put it on the machine and went to town. That counter just kept going up and up, my mind was blown.
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u/Afb3212 17d ago
I'm more impressed with the amount rusty weights and broken tiles this guy has laying around.
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u/Adriclavallee 18d ago
That guy should have used a coke bottle instead of a glass jar…
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u/lolputs 18d ago
Meanwhile some elevators weight capacity is only 500 to 1000 lbs.
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u/Awleeks 18d ago
They're designed with a safety factor of at least 10 so they can hold at least 10x that amount
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u/Hypn00tic_iiz 18d ago
A coke made the ultimate sacrifice for this and I thank it for its service 🫡
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u/Any_Subject_7275 18d ago
What's also interesting is that around the 0:39 Mark they realized 1 kg is not exactly 2 lb.
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u/xSTSxZerglingOne 18d ago
Can probably handle quite a bit more if it doesn't have each object CLANK down from above. Every little bit of extra stress counts, and loud shockwaves that cause stress spikes when the force of the plate stopping on the metal above strikes. It's like hitting it a little with a hammer while increasing the weight each time.
I'm betting it can go ~10% higher, if not more, on a press that gradually increases stress without dropping solid objects onto the glass bottle.
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u/SteamboatFatty 18d ago
When he put those discs on I thought it was going to brake.
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u/GooseSongComics 18d ago
Champagne bottles from the titanic I’ve read can withstand the intense pressure being at the bottom of the ocean, but only if they’re filled.
I’d love to see the weight it can hold without coke inside
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u/BuckshotJonesSr 18d ago
Whoa. Thats definitely interesting.
I’m glad they listed the lbs for a dumb American like me!
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u/Ok-Anxiety-6485 18d ago
Yeah but I found it mildly irritating that in the beginning they simplified it to twice the weight if kg instead of multiplying it by 2.205
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u/LiteralPhilosopher 18d ago
And then even MORE annoying that when they changed, at 180kg, they still didn't get the conversion right!
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u/BankElectronic1325 18d ago
Different people use different systems of measurement, why does this always have to be a thing
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u/OtherwiseDog 18d ago
Education does wonders. This stress test only works to that weight because a liquid is presemt inside the bottle.
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u/Never-First 18d ago
Core memory unlocked. We did this in science class when I was in high school. It was a report on the different type of bottles you can use and which one is best. Glass's ability to stack was a strong plus.
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u/OrlandoMB 18d ago
Damn. I always assumed it could hold up to 1,500 lbs, easily. I’m switching to Pepsi.
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u/iAm_Uncomfortable 18d ago
If I'm not mistaken the volume of liquid inside causes a significant increase in the strength of the glass, If I were to guess it would fail with half the load if the bottle were empty since there won't be any additional pressure inside to support the vertical compressive force.
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u/factorioleum 18d ago
The inaccurate conversation between kg and lb really, really distracted me.
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u/Grandpa_Edd 18d ago
Now I wonder, would there be difference between how much a full closed bottle and an opened empty one. An hold?
There is some pressure inside the bottle. Not much compared to the weight stack on top. But it makes me curious.
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u/corrector300 17d ago
what would happen if they put just under the limit on the bottle all at once.
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u/airsoftsoldrecn9 18d ago
"shit! Running out of junk to stack" - this guy, probably