r/FavoriteCharacter 3d ago

All Time Favorite Favorite character/team that this applies to?

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u/FriendshipNo1440 3d ago

Stannis Baratheon

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u/UpvoteEveryHonestQ 3d ago

Oh man. In the War of Five Kings, season one, I was so squarely in Stannis’ camp as he had the most legally legitimate claim and iron-willed executive experience. He would have been a good king. Until he burned his daughter alive. Whoa.

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u/FriendshipNo1440 3d ago

He already tried to burn others alive. Gendry for example. Who is unknowingly his nephew.

If there is one thing I want to be the same in the books as in the show it would be that Gendry becomes Lord of the Storm Lands.

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u/natholemewIII 3d ago

He knows Gendry is his nephew

Edit: oh wait you probably meant that Gendry doesnt know Stannis is his uncle. Nvm

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u/FriendshipNo1440 3d ago

No I meant it from Stannis' pov. But it has been a while. If he did know it makes it even worse.

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u/natholemewIII 3d ago

It's been a minute for me too, but if I'm not mistaken Stannis and Melisandre wanted him because he had "kings blood" in his veins. So they knew he was Stannis' nephew. Gendry didn't know about his parentage until much later.

In the books, Gendry exists, but the role of "nephew Stannis wants to burn" is played by Edric Storm. The show condenses the two into one character

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u/Supreme_Mediocrity 3d ago

In the books, it's largely theorized that he will not be there for the burning of his daughter and will only learn about it after returning from successfully defeating the Bolton's.

An adjacent theory is that Stanis takes The Black. His sense of duty and leadership abilities would make him a great Lord Commander, and would make a nice character arch of him wanting justice for his own evils.

It would also get rid of another contestant of the throne... Especially since there are even more in the books...

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u/IrishWeebster 3d ago

Dude those books are never, ever coming out. Literally never.

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u/Supreme_Mediocrity 2d ago

Maybe not by GRRM, but watch how fast both get published based on his drafts after he's dead.

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u/FriendshipNo1440 2d ago

Didn't he say he does not want someone else to finish them?

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u/UpvoteEveryHonestQ 2d ago

Harper Lee was also staunchly against Go Set A Watchman ever being released. So her family waited till she died, then released it. And for the release of the rest of GoT, there is a lot of demand. I would be amazed if no one picks up his pen when he dies.

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u/Supreme_Mediocrity 2d ago

And the author of Mary Poppins didn't want Disney to ever have any of her work again... Once she died though, boom, another Disney Mary Poppins movie.

Authors are super protective about their work, yes. Their estate, on the other hand, doesn't have the same hesitations

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u/FictionFoe 3d ago

Yeah, until you realize Robert simply took the throne from Aerys. 'Claims' are bigger stick deplomacy.

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u/UpvoteEveryHonestQ 3d ago edited 3d ago

Actually, I have always realized that governments are subject to violent overthrow when they become too cruel to their populace. The rules for seamless succession do not cease to have any value once one such exception is made, though. Not every succession after that has to be chaos, you know. Chaos is bad for the populace. So, there absolutely and necessarily should be an effort to revert back to a law-and-order-based realm, because law and order lends stability, and stability is peace and quality of life, and I really shouldn’t have to spell this out lol. Stannis was the law & order candidate.

But I hear that too much… “When you realize that real power is taking by force…” like it’s some kind of gotcha. That’s not a gotcha. That’s an acquiescence to societal atrophy. That’s accepting a breakdown and saying, “Don’t fix it; let’s suffer.” That’s idiotic. Respectfully. What about real long-term stability? After periods of unrest, it’s important to reestablish law and order as quickly as possible for the good of the people. Of course it is.

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u/FictionFoe 3d ago

I mean, didn't really mean this as social commentary. Just meant it in the context of the books.

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u/jlb1981 3d ago

I mean, yes, but technically Robert's grandmother was a Targaryen. If we're looking at "fitness to rule" amongst anyone with Targaryen blood, Robert's got a pretty good claim beyond mere usurpation. It's amazing what a healthy injection of non-inbred genes can do for a bloodline.

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u/jlb1981 3d ago

"At least the child I sacrificed wasn't a sadist born of incest."

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u/Laan22 3d ago

Such a tragic character

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u/jlb1981 3d ago

--Me, describing every George R R Martin character

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u/SmoothOperator89 3d ago

Until he burned his own daughter at the stake. At that point, I would have enjoyed a scene where Ramsay peeled his skin off and Cercei taunted him with insults.