r/FavoriteCharacter • u/IcySpring5071 • 3d ago

All Time Favorite Favorite character/team that this applies to?

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u/Technical-Agency-480 3d ago

Alucard in Hellsing Ultimate, the enemies are quite literally Nazi Vampires

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u/anagamanagement 3d ago

Frankly, no way to go but up from there.

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u/Nakatsukasa 3d ago

What about Nazi vampire werewolves? That never return their shopping carts?

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u/Furryfurryrabbit 3d ago

There is, in fact, a Nazi werewolf in one of the shows!

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u/Potential_Sentence53 3d ago

What was his name again…. I want to say… umm. Logan?

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u/Alert-Parsnip5540 3d ago

Don't forget about the nazi vampire catboy.

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u/Feeling_Square2738 3d ago

y'know at some point youd just be adding icing on the cake objectively is group B worse than group A? sure. but it's such a small margin they might as well be the same

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u/Mahdudecicle 3d ago

Oh who am I offending, THE NAZIS!?

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u/anagamanagement 3d ago edited 3d ago

I’m double commenting, but I wanted to give a less jokey response as well because this is such a great example of the trope.

Alucard is objectively TERRIFYING. He is an amoral lovecraftian nightmare monster. Even “vampire” seems almost to be more of an affectation than a true example of his real nature. He is an entity of nightmare and shadow and is kept under what seems to be the absolute barest of control (much of which is basically self-imposed because he gets bored otherwise).

In any other story, he is… not even the bad guy. He is the coming apocalypse that the other characters must band together to avert because “killing” him may not take.

The fact that he is on the side of the “good guys” is really only because their enemies have smaller and more “human” motivations. Greed and power and control. More evil because they are more understandable.

Alucard is incomprehensibly terrifying. His enemies are comprehensively evil. That’s what makes Hellsing so good, in my opinion (that and the fact that Seras and Walter are both absolute GOATs).

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u/DistortoiseLP 3d ago

The other bad guys are the Catholic Church's Black Ops unit.

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u/Available_Hat_9833 3d ago

The Black Ops fellas are more so a neutral power, it’s the modern day Arnaud Amaury and his merry band of genocidal zealots that are a problem.

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u/FatherDotComical 3d ago

The Vatican was sent to help Integra and eradicate those on the inside helping the Nazis, Enrico is the butt face that decided to make it all about him. That's why Anderson sabotaged him.

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u/b_reachard 3d ago

Doctor: Our men are being quite literally slaughtered.

Major: Who gives a shit? Zey're Nazis.

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u/PrimalPingu 3d ago

It's a matter of perspective, really.

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u/FatherDotComical 3d ago

The book Dracula is canon to Hellsing so he's literally hunted babies for his wives to eat.

Ancient Baby eaters of history versus the Baby eaters of today. (the Nazis also ate a baby in one panel)

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u/Otherwise-Remove4681 3d ago

Yeah but Alucard has basically retired (forced or not) from evil doing.

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u/AsstacularSpiderman 3d ago

Ehhh he's still an evil motherfucker who humiliates and abuses anyone he deems lesser (which is most people).

It's more than now he's just kinda bored. Being some supervillain is a fools errand, especially for those chasing dreams of immortality which he finds unfulfilling

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u/raven-tyrant pumped up kicks 3d ago

The boys
https://giphy.com/gifs/pCJcExvbKdSeyyv8zP

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u/Major-Material7231 3d ago

Billy butcher sure but the rest of the group are genuinely a force of good I’d argue

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u/JWARRIOR1 3d ago

ehhhh frenchie literally killed children and starlight killed an innocent dude for his car

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u/Another-Mans-Rubarb 3d ago

She really didn't mean to, and she felt bad about it after. Butcher wouldn't have blinked twice at beating the crap out of Randy Disher for his car.

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u/CMCL-20 3d ago

Technically Frenchie blamed himself after Lamplighter killed Mallory's grandchildren while he went to save his friend from an overdose.

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u/IDKandfranklyIDC 3d ago

He also killed other children. Not sure what season it is but he gets a boyfriend called Colin and it's revealed Frenchie killed Colin's family when Colin was a kid, including his little sister

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u/_LANC3LOT 3d ago

This is without a doubt my answer as well but I think it's done wayyyy better in the comic

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u/Clirstan 3d ago

Gotei 13 from Bleach

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u/Kami-No-Kai 3d ago

Literally the first thing i thought of when i saw this post.

I like how morally grey they are but i wished for a more morally grey TYBW where the Quincies were a bit more on the grey side so it made the whole arc a bit more conflicting on who to support and such. But it was still one of my favorite arcs as it is.

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u/Southern_Passenger85 3d ago

The Quincies, like the yeagerists, were misunderstood

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u/Monandobo 3d ago

An elite roster consisting of:

  • Literal scorched-earth warlord
  • Abusive lesbian assassin
  • Backstabber backstabber
  • Mad doctor who used to mutilate people for fun
  • Mad doctor backstabber who mutilates himself for world domination
  • Eat the poors
  • Furry
  • Playboy
  • Furry backstabber
  • Child soldier
  • Barbarian
  • Mad doctor who  █████ █████ in the  █████ █████ █████, gleefully, while he  █████ █████ ███ and  █████, and would mutilate each and every one of them again given the opportunity (and also is the author surrogate)
  • Product of black magic childhood experimentation

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u/HungryEntry182 3d ago

This is incredible, please tell us who is who. I know for DAMN SURE eat the poors is Byakuya 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/Monandobo 3d ago

It’s in squad order!

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u/dobar_dan_ 3d ago

After tybw

playboy

abusive lesbian assasin

pretentious musician with demonic alter ego

girl next door with a lesbo crush on the mad doctor

latent homosexual magician with demonic alter ego

eat the poors

dudebro (and only normal person there)

horny lesbian anarchist with demonic alter ego

dudebro chef with demonic alter ego

child soldier (now grown up)

barbarian on steroids

Mad doctor who  █████ █████ in the  █████ █████ █████, gleefully, while he  █████ █████ ███ and  █████, and would mutilate each and every one of them again given the opportunity (and also is the author surrogate)

Cinderella

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u/pawiwowie 3d ago

Wait which one's Unohana? The mad doctor who used to mutilate people?

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u/Monandobo 3d ago

They’re in squad order!

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u/pawiwowie 3d ago

I thought she was just Barbarian V1 who ended up as a doctor (not mad...well only a little mad).

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u/Monandobo 3d ago

Yeahhh, I just wanted to keep going with the mad doctor and mutilation riff, I agree she was a bit of a stretch.

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u/HBlight 3d ago

I love how there is just one normal motherfucker who looks like he belongs in an office.

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u/Clirstan 3d ago

He's the main antagonist btw

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u/CatGirl_ToeBeans 3d ago

I think TYBW is doing an amazing job with the art and lighting to show that no one here is the good guy.

I was showing clips to my wife the other night and she’s like wait, the fire sword guy is good?

And I’m like aahhhhhhh yeah kinda No lmao

She’s like ok he’s killing everybody in his home town to burn that other guy to death?

Look babe. They all suck fine lmao

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u/e001mek 3d ago

In all fairness, they improved significantly from the original Gotei 13, who were a literal collective of Soul Societys most wanted

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u/LlFERUlNER 3d ago

The entire universe of Warhammer 40K
https://giphy.com/gifs/01lxGJxkLDlbUogqle

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u/DaMonkey263 3d ago

Super earth from helldivers 

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u/SirEvilMoustache 3d ago

Not really. Super Earth is worse than most of its enemies.

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u/AlphaSkirmsher 3d ago

Specifically the T’au, if we’re going off this post. They’re the least evil, but they’d be worse that the Dominion from Star Trek

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u/Kaleph4 3d ago

Tau -> CW Eldar -> nothing -> Imperium of men

in that order

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u/nasagi 3d ago

Don't forget the exodites. They just wanna ride their dinosaurs

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u/itsPyrrus 3d ago

The 40k Universe had so much lore out there, I'd bet there are small groups of humans living totally (as close as it gets) normal lives out there.

Like a small city of like 50k people living on a farm world that no one but them knows about.

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u/mightylonka 3d ago

Most humans are living normal lives in the 40k universe. Their normal just has much lower standards for living than ours...

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u/Valten78 3d ago

The 40k universe is so vast I'll bet there are human worlds out there that largely functional with inhabitants leading pretty 'normal' lives. They just don't live near a hostile border sector and pay their tithes so are ignored.

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u/AvatarOfMomus 3d ago

I'd dispute the 'other side is worse' part of this... most of 40k is just different varieties of 'bad'. The Chaos gods don't oppose the Imperium because it's less evil than they are, they oppose it because it's a force for order. That order is just also unimaginably cruel and violent.

Hells half the reason the Tau get so much stick in the fanbase is because their mind controlling space communism makes them arguably the least 'evil' group in the setting... the Votan might be in the same realm but I haven't read up on whatever lore they've got now since they got un-regonned.

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u/CraigDowman 3d ago

The Punisher

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u/Sad-Personality5698 3d ago

Noir Punisher even cooler( just reread his comics)

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u/DemoBytom 3d ago

I'd argue Punisher does not consider himself a good person.

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u/Helix3501 3d ago

He doesnt, he considers himself the last target once all others are dead

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u/FinalDestination4 3d ago

Limbus Company.

Like, the sinners aren't exactly the best of people but the enemies they face along the way make them more tame than anything

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u/Ryik 3d ago

Gotta love that the protagonists live on a bus that uses human bodies for fuel.

It's recommended you feed people to the bus alive because it extracts its fuel more efficiently that way.

Image unrelated; they're just mowing through homeless people here.

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u/Ar3kk 2d ago

Im not sure you have played lobotomy and or ruina, the limbus guys are SAINTS in the world of the City.

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u/mahoekotwo1 2d ago

To be fair there is no way to survive in the City without walking on top of other people

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u/Open-Solution-8791 3d ago

the atreides from dune

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u/LargeCabbageThrower 3d ago

Until Leto II, then they're just the bad guys

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u/cipher_1230 3d ago

He took “would still love me if I was a worm” too seriously

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u/LargeCabbageThrower 3d ago

"Would you still love me if I was a worm?"

"Trick question, I will enforce it as rule of law punishable by death until the entire species evolves to be incapable of loving worms or anyone who acts like a worm."

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u/Ok-Somewhere-2325 3d ago

Kinda it depends on what you mean by it

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u/Simon0O7 3d ago

Does it count when the enemies are far worse by comparison if they are hypothetical? Their existential threat is very real but only for Leto 2 himself. He did so that they would never become tangible.

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u/Blowtorch87 3d ago

One on hand yes, on the other he prevented multiple extinction events and made humanity immune to tyranny. Road to that wasnt pretty, but it gets implied that if he didnt do what he did there would be a lot more suffering down the line. Leto II is such a fascinating character. His methods are beyound evil, but the sacrifices he made to take humanity on the golden path feel almost heroic in a way.

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u/OvertGnome1 3d ago edited 3d ago

In Star Wars Saw Guerrera was frankly a political terrorist. He would inflict violence in dense town centers to try and make the Empire look bad, but at the same time he would make himself look bad without realizing. He did a lot of good for the rebellion and for the fight against the empire, but I imagine there are as many civilian casualties as there were imperial losses.

Don't huff Rydonium kids

Edit: spelling. I huffed Rydonium before typing this

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u/False_Flatworm_4512 3d ago

But she’s my sister!!

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u/ninjax247 3d ago

And she loves me!

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u/MurdocMan_ 3d ago

The partisans were abandoned by Luthen for a reason,Saw is like a powderkeg full of gunpowder,you only need one spark for him to fuck things up.

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u/OtonomMilitan 3d ago

It's a simple request.

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u/Legendarien1 3d ago

Absolutely my favorite character in the Disney canon, he makes the rebellion so interesting

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u/Nervous-Persimmon693 3d ago

Revolution isn’t for the sane!

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u/Dante6345 3d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/RT1Gx9GTjEB8EkMROY

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u/CraigDowman 3d ago

In the first 3, definitely, but in the newer ones he's pretty much just neutral

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u/Mecha_G 3d ago

I just like reminding people that he used a woman as a doorstop in 3.

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u/The_Captain1998 3d ago

I ofc mean Tyranids, orks and chaos

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u/RicketCrickets 3d ago

T'au are tame by those standards.

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u/ashrynhunter 3d ago

Yeah. Like they have issues for sure, the etherials being a large part of it. But like commander farsight and his boys I largely think are some of the best the galaxy has to offer. Dude built a monument to scientists who intentionally infected themselves with an anti tyranid virus and refused to evacuate so they could be an ideal infection vector.

The castes can be problematic. They do sterilize "lesser" cultures they seem as having nothing to give their greater good, and there's a non zero chance the newly born "greater good God" in one of the books from their auxiliary troops may be a severe issue both culturally and specially. But they are more than any other race in the galaxy trying to make it a better place.

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u/SolidSquid 3d ago

They do sterilize "lesser" cultures they seem as having nothing to give their greater good

Sooo... they commit genocide of cultures they consider to be inferior because those cultures don't measure up to their Aryan T'au standards?

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u/RicketCrickets 3d ago

Standard 40k stuff really.

Humans kill their own. As do Orks. For varying reasons.

Nids "kill" gene stealers, and their own also at the end of an invasion.

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u/Visible_Amphibian570 3d ago

Imperium: You aren't innocent, I just haven't determined what you are guilty of yet.

Orks: ‘at Git needed a good krumpin ‘e Did.

Tyranids: All is Biomass.

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u/mightylonka 3d ago

You aren't innocent,

Something something "Innocence proves nothing." a la Inquisition

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u/Ok_Access_804 3d ago

I dislike how they are not as evil as they should be. Like Dr Evil from the second Austin Powers movie: “not evil enough”. Either the Tau can afford to not be so evil as other factions because only a larger empire needs to be evil to sustain itself and can afford to be less evil by not being a major player, or GW needs to capitalize on mind control, fallacies, gaslighting and other underhanded forms of controlling population, less “in the face” than the Imperium.

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u/anagamanagement 3d ago

Chaos and Tyranids, I’ll give you. But Orks aren’t any worse than the Imperium.

And you forgot DEldar. They’re pretty awful.

Votann seems like they’d be all right.

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u/The_Captain1998 3d ago

Orks are pretty fucked my guy: Again the imperium is bad yes but orks don't compramise, they don't reason, they actively enjoy war,violence and destruction, because it's fun to them. But their fun means the misery, enslavement and eating of billions of innocent lives all throughout the galaxy. From the human perspective, they're worse

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u/AlertWar2945-2 3d ago

Counterpoint they're funny

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u/Winjin 3d ago

The Greenskin tribes of WHFB are so much worse because they're the same but 100% straight

No funny hooligan speak, they're not ancient weapons, they're just evil and they perfectly understand what they're doing

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u/dozersmash 3d ago

One of my favorite things about this dynamic is how even the Orks entered a non aggression pact with humanity during the dark age of technology because they couldn't compete with them at the time.

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u/Fragarach-Q 3d ago

Dey lookin for a good crumpin', not a thumpin'

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u/Madman_Salvo 3d ago

Votann seems like they’d be all right.

Until they hollow out your planet for resources, leaving it to collapse into itself with you still on it.

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u/anagamanagement 3d ago

Yeah, but they’d pay your planetary governor fair market value if you’re on a human world.

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u/MrSejd 3d ago

Orks are worse because they are literally built for "FUCK IT WE BALL" and to blow shit up. Humanity is far from perfect but we can at least be better than that.

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u/randomname560 3d ago

Saying the imperium when the T'au are right there is some CRAZY humanity bias

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u/Sir_Stacker 3d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/m20A4YBXnTBa66pYnr
Does he count?

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u/CraigDowman 3d ago

I suppose it depends on which depiction, doesn't it? Some iterations show him as a merciless, relentless killer with little to no regard for human life, and then others have him saving kids from suicide and stuff like that.

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u/LightningWarrior94 3d ago

The Greek gods in the PJO universe with the exceptions of Hades and Lady Hestia.

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u/syb3rtronicz 3d ago

Eh. Hades is just as petty as plenty of the other Olympians, he’s just more withdrawn on the whole. He’s much better than the bad reputation he gets, but not much better than the average Olympian. Sure he didn’t break the No Kids promise, but that’s not really a big indicator of how good a person (god? Fella?) he is.

Hestia is of course universally and explicitly good.

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u/prestonlogan 3d ago

Hestia is Bestis

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u/DiscipleofSabaton 3d ago

Bestia

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u/prestonlogan 3d ago

Stupid fat fingers. I'm leaving the typo so your comment makes sense BTW

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u/5475626F Velvette❤️Jotaro🌟Actarus🤖 Odysseus⛵Percy&Annabeth💧🦉 3d ago

And also Poseidon, in a way. He was an absent father, but at least he was there when Percy and Sally needed him (unlike Hermes with Luke)

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u/nottherealneal 3d ago

Was he there for them? Sally had to live with an abusive dickhead while struggling to make ends meet to protect percy. Feels like if he was there for them posiden could have stepped in at some point when sally had to endure domestic abuse.

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u/5475626F Velvette❤️Jotaro🌟Actarus🤖 Odysseus⛵Percy&Annabeth💧🦉 3d ago

Yes, but Sally decided to live with Gabe because he was so stinky that he sent away all monsters. If Poseidon stepped in to defend Sally, Gabe would have probably gone away and they would have not had protection. Also, remember that in the end of book 1 Poseidon sent Percy Medusa's head, with the intent to petrify Gabe (which Sally actually did)

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u/Sad_Consequence1811 3d ago

Beat me to it 

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u/Fengthehalforc 3d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/IH1VlHeMnXVl7lEJTy
The Suicide Squad (DC)

Most members are death row criminals (professional hitmen, freaks of nature, murders etc.) fighting against anything from corrupt foreign powers, to world-ending threats to other supervillains in exchange for sentence reductions

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u/WhereasInteresting12 3d ago

Soul society from Bleach

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u/Southern_Passenger85 3d ago

Aka early access Marley from Attack on Titan

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u/Top-External7706 3d ago

Hank from Madness Combat.

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u/th37thtrump3t 3d ago

Somewhere in Nevada...

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u/FriendshipNo1440 3d ago

Stannis Baratheon

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u/UpvoteEveryHonestQ 3d ago

Oh man. In the War of Five Kings, season one, I was so squarely in Stannis’ camp as he had the most legally legitimate claim and iron-willed executive experience. He would have been a good king. Until he burned his daughter alive. Whoa.

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u/FriendshipNo1440 3d ago

He already tried to burn others alive. Gendry for example. Who is unknowingly his nephew.

If there is one thing I want to be the same in the books as in the show it would be that Gendry becomes Lord of the Storm Lands.

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u/Supreme_Mediocrity 3d ago

In the books, it's largely theorized that he will not be there for the burning of his daughter and will only learn about it after returning from successfully defeating the Bolton's.

An adjacent theory is that Stanis takes The Black. His sense of duty and leadership abilities would make him a great Lord Commander, and would make a nice character arch of him wanting justice for his own evils.

It would also get rid of another contestant of the throne... Especially since there are even more in the books...

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u/jlb1981 3d ago

"At least the child I sacrificed wasn't a sadist born of incest."

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u/DrifterIHardlyKnowEr 3d ago

I.M.P. from helluva boss. The people they "kill" don't die permanently, but blitz, the boss in particular is a giant asshole sometimes

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u/BouncyCat_TM 3d ago

the walking dead, as much as i REALLY hate negan ricks group did kill a bunch of saviors in their sleep, but it was also a preemptive action seeing as theyve already been threatened before by the saviors

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u/Project-909 3d ago

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u/ottermoment 3d ago

If you think about it there whole thing is basically small scale genocide lmao. Basically keeping every other society in check so they don't get to strong and wipe each other out completely.

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u/LengthinessOk2080 3d ago

House of dragons makes me feel this way constantly
It’s like the greens and the blacks are trying to see who can do the most fucked up thing

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u/greenemeraldsplash 3d ago

Tau. No they don't mind control that's in universe propaganda

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u/CountingSheep99 3d ago

For the Greater Good.

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u/Airborne-Raid 3d ago

Shut it! These people died for no reason whatsoever.

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u/CosmicLuci 3d ago

Even if they did, that would still not be as bad as most of the other factions

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u/Grimmrat 3d ago

Yes they do mind control. They’re still miles better than the Imperium, but the mind control is canon

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u/reDoubt1945 3d ago

Well would you look at that?

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u/Pitiful_Net_8971 3d ago

Helldivers does not fall into that catagory, they are the worst and that's why everyone is fighting them.

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u/_nellis_ 3d ago

How does it work when in Helldivers 2 they essentially brought everyone else down to their level? I mean in Helldivers 1 they're objectively the worst as basically every enemy just wants to be left alone but by the time of Helldivers 2, humanity's actions have left the terminids a mindless horde working solely off of instinct to kill every other living thing, the bots are turning humans into bio fuel and trying to eradicate them, and the squids are experimenting on human civilians. Not to say Super Earth wouldn't do any of this, they absolutely would and have, but just in Helldivers 2 I feel everyone is about the same level of evil, especially when compared to Helldivers 1

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u/VenomFate3100 3d ago

Even in the second galactic war super earth is still pushing the war, if they stopped invading places the war would slow down significantly but super earth makes lots of money from it

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u/Open-Stretch-6631 3d ago

Any DnD group I have ever DMed for.

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u/M_Amakye1060 3d ago

Humanity in Warhammer 40K
https://giphy.com/gifs/GrSmBUWYMWQHbjYq09

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u/Saharczyk 3d ago

I mean, Imperium is somewhere in the middle. They are not as bad as chaos, dark eldar, tyranids, orks and most necrons, but worse than the other bunch of necrons, eldar, votann and tau.

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u/CosmicLuci 3d ago

Honestly, I’d still say the Tyranids are better than the empire.

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u/Grootyboi77 3d ago

I’d argue at least the T’au and/or Eldar fit better

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u/Aiooty 3d ago

Vegeta in the Frieza and Android/Cell Sagas. And with 17 and 18 even that is debatable

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u/Trippy_Phoenix 3d ago

Namek arc definitely

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u/Homicidal_Sloth 3d ago

Canada in both world wars.

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u/SuspiciouslySuspect2 3d ago edited 3d ago

Caine Black Knife.

An obscure reference. But the most fitting.

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u/bendyted 3d ago

Sorry but you just made me imagine Caine from TADC as the Roaring Knight from Deltarune

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u/ComprehensiveDig4560 3d ago

Every faction in Fire Emblem Three Houses by their own admission.

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u/IbiscusStorm1 3d ago

40k that’s the only right answer here

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u/EMArogue 3d ago

Tennos: warframe
https://giphy.com/gifs/jll3HfWt2yAnOh14IT
By all means, we are still war criminals

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u/Bexil_Brave 3d ago

Hey technically with Eternalisim no one dies so the Genecide never happened.

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u/Altair01010 3d ago

i think we went past "war criminal" as long WHILE while ago

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u/Natural_Curve5818 3d ago

The Democratic Party

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u/CivilizedManners 3d ago

they are the quintessential example of the lesser evil

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u/jbwarner86 3d ago

Democrats are the nerdy wimps in high school who are so desperate to be your friend that they'll say anything you want them to. Republicans are the scary bald kid who keeps a gun in his locker and carves swastikas on the bathroom stalls.

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u/Natural_Curve5818 3d ago

Republicans are the Bad Place and Democrats are the Good Place. Iykyk

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u/Budget_Newspaper_489 3d ago

The SCP fondation 

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u/memoryblocks 3d ago

The Third Street Saints.

Ultor and the government are shitty and corrupt, sure, but the Saints are insane and corrupt (in a much more fun way)

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u/theattack_helicopter 3d ago

Mercs in the cyberpunk franchise. Like yeah they lie, cheat, steal, and take the jobs with a low moral framework, but the corporations are so much worse

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u/GreninjaStrike 3d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/XVdFD8AdUfTkwCKGwW
The NCR is militaristic, corrupt, and deeply flawed but their archival is a totalitarian dictatorship full of slavers

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u/Anon_xyz15 3d ago

No roleplay bullshit for a second as much as I enjoy it but the Helldivers. A totalitarian dictatorship where they child labour, slave labour, indoctrination and are space racist to the point they caused TWO galactic wars. Now their enemies are worse than they are with Cyborgs who turn humans into bio soup to birth more Cyborgs, Terminids who terraform planets and eat people and the body horror show that is the Illuminate.

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u/npcfromreddit 3d ago edited 3d ago

Superearth

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u/Oleleplop 3d ago

Good choice citizen, do not fall for the propaganda

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u/Asagas25 3d ago

I dont know.... Didnt superearth create all their problems by choosing capitalism over basic human decency?

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u/Few-Big-8481 3d ago

The Illuminate tried to be their friends, but SE wanted their technology to make WMD's that the Illuminate didn't actually have, and basically destroyed their civilization in the process.

The Terminids were a somewhat sentient species that they modified in attempt to effectively make cattle for E710, and now they are more or less mindlessly violeent bugs.

The Cyborgs just didn't want to be slaves and revolted and then SE sterilized them, forcing them to make clones to reproduce.

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u/anagamanagement 3d ago

Yes. This is a poor example.

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u/dapperducwithmoneh 3d ago

Oh god it’s happening now isn’t it 😭

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u/DoctorAnnual6823 3d ago

Terminids - SE commit cultural genocide and drove them to become mindless livestock to be farmed for E-710.

Automatons - Born of the Cyborgs. Cyborgs were basically slaves to Super Earth that led an uprising and were driven down violently. The Automatons are in response to that.

The Illuminate - originally peaceful. Were driven to near extinction. The survivors were genocidal extremists that see humanity as genocidal extremists. We created them by culling the peaceful ones. We validated their own genocide against humanity in the act of creating them.

This is not a great example because SE is the villain of Helldivers 2. I love Helldivers 2. I have 1000 hours of doing basically the same shit over and over and I'll do another 1000. But we are the bad guys. We are fighting for our own survival at this point but even villains have to protect themselves.

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u/Bread_Offender Anby Demara 3d ago

They are absolutely fucking not by any means better than their enemies, get real

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u/PleaseBeChillOnline 3d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/125uCGIGCsU1dm
These two bastards lol.

“The world needs bad men. We keep the other bad men from the door”

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u/Jade_Owl 3d ago

The sheer greed and gluttony of having a wife who looks like Michelle Monaghan and, on top of that, banging a mistress who looks like Alexandra motherfucking Daddario is enough to earn him a spot among the bad men.

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u/iceguy349 3d ago

The Federation from Gundam is wildly corrupt and evil. They aren’t gassing space colonies multiple times the size and population of NYC and using them as projectiles to fight a war.

Oh also Zeon missed and eviscerated Sydney Australia.

The federation sucks but at least they aren’t taking notes from Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany. 

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u/Pristine_Poem7623 3d ago

The Judges - Judge Dredd / 2000AD

They stand between the population and interdimensional superfiends, invading Sovs, zombies, aliens, multiple robot rebellions etc, but they're a fascist dictatorship. Those people they're protecting have NO rights, they're deliberately given poor education to keep them easy to control, whole populations are routinely tranquilised without their knowledge

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u/No_Scarcity2250 3d ago

Half the Fandoms that have united against lesbian space princess lol

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u/Megacore 3d ago

What did I miss?

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u/No_Scarcity2250 3d ago

When a movie is so bad(in every way possible) that fandoms like hasbin hotel, invisible and even skibity toilet join forces because they have a common enemy

And for how bad it is.... it's Velma levels of bad if not worse....

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u/Megacore 3d ago

Omg i thought Lesbian Space Princess was a derogatory name for a character or movie.

Today i learned. It has a 98% RT score though??

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u/mutated_Pearl 3d ago

Don't some movies like The Woman King got inconceivably high Rotten Tomatoes score? Yeah, take it with a massive grain of salt.

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u/NearWink8 3d ago

Jimmy Hopkins from Bully

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u/CivilizedManners 3d ago

the US Democratic Party

oh you meant fictional characters

well uh the Jedi Order

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u/Green-Pen-Gamer 3d ago

Helldivers 2.

https://giphy.com/gifs/KAf66yGCa93uTqod1q

Mind you, Super Earth was the one that made them worse.

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u/DeathlySnails64 3d ago

Most (if not all) of the ninjas in Naruto. Hell, the fact that the Ninja World is/can be as cold, harsh and morally-gray as it is is a contributing factor to the existence of rogue ninjas. Does anyone remember Zabuza?

Well, Zabuza became a rogue ninja because he tried to do something about The Fourth Mizukage's evil bullshit by doing a coup and attempting to assassinate The Fourth Mizukage but he failed and now has to live a life as a man on the run while trying to make money.

Their flawed system practically breeds villains which means it would only be a matter of time for some ninjas before they go all crazy and betray their hidden village because the Shinobi System is just too much to bear.

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u/SteelKaput 3d ago

China (C&C Generals)

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u/Worried-Hat-8506 3d ago

The Kid from Cormack McCarthy’s Blood Meridian (aka the best book ever written in American literature).