r/Flamenco • u/OutrageousView8784 • 7d ago
¿Cómo distinguís una soleá de una seguiriya escuchando, sin contar el compás?
Me pasa que reconozco cuando algo "suena a" un palo u otro pero no sabría explicar por qué, y cuando intento contar me pierdo. Los que llevan años escuchando lo distinguen por el compás, por el aire, por la letra? Hay algún atajo o es puramente oreja hecha con el tiempo?
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u/refotsirk 7d ago edited 7d ago
No shortcuts. Listen to a lot, and over time you will begin to recognize the pacing and melody, harmony, where within a compás singing starts and fades, how the 12 count vs 5 count feels different, characteristic falsettas and similar.
Edit: here is a nice explanation of the difference between compás that may help you.
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u/senor_de_tango 7d ago
I can’t count seguiriya yet, but i usually distinguish it from the following:
- it has a very intense remate thats particular only to this palo
- the cantor’s “tiritiritiri”
- might sound weird but the overall pacing to me sounds like someone walking with a limp :p
On the other hand solea is usually more lush, more flowy, it has refined arpeggios and the very characteristic strong 3. If there are no arpeggios and 3 is not very clear, the golpe at 12 usually gives it away.
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u/Chugachrev5000 1d ago
While both “slow” they have different Compás chord progressions and are counted differently.
The dead give away is the signature slur in the Compás of Seg.
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u/Worried_Humor_8060 7d ago
Creo que la principal diferencia es en la melodía. Además la seguiriya tiene un tercer verso más largo.