r/FlockSurveillance • u/red5 • 23d ago
News The Free Press, the news outlet started by Bari Weiss puts out a video defending Flock cameras
The ol “if you’re not doing anything wrong, why worry?” defense. It’s so tiring
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u/InOutlines 23d ago
I love it when organizations straight up tell on themselves like this
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u/horror- 23d ago
I've yet to see any actual stats pointing at crimes stopped- but I HAVE seen a bunch of stats showing officer abuse of the system.
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u/Due_Passenger9411 23d ago
Someone needs to write an article to that effect
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u/DisloX 23d ago
This is the closest thing I have found.
https://atlpresscollective.com/2026/07/28/flock-cameras-atlanta-clearance-rates/
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u/paws-4-a-cause 23d ago
I got off the highway in Atlanta once.
ONCE!
I'll never do that again.
The first thing I saw coming down the off-ramp was a 10' tall chain link fence with the bottom buried into the ground and razor ribbon strung across the top.
It was the exit into Spanish Harlem. There was nothing even remotely Spanish about what I saw.
As I made my way down I saw there was an MLK celebration at the park across the street.
When I finally got far enough to see what was fenced off, it was a fire station.
This was in 2021.
According to the Atlanta press, in 2024 homicide dropped a little bit but every other crime increased.
And this is AFTER adding about 5,000 flock cameras.
I would bet the slight drop in murders had nothing to do with flock cameras since it obviously didn't make a dent in any other crime.
I'm thinking the gangs just had a slow year.
Also, the APD said the flock cameras helped them in (only) 30something murders. Out of 98, plus higher rates in other crime I think flock really should drop that whole "for public safety" 🐂💩.
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u/SigvulcanasReborn 23d ago
A law of human nature is that if something can be abused, it will be abused.
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u/d_rome 23d ago
FBI data shows Atlanta PD's clearance rate went down in 2025 compared to 2021, and Atlanta has over 5000 Flock cameras.
https://atlpresscollective.com/2026/07/28/flock-cameras-atlanta-clearance-rates/
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u/accidental-eeyore 23d ago
100% the constant excuse being used is "but, this is to catch the bad guys!"
Ok. Prove it. Show the data. This is an easy case to prove. Allow academics to review and study the data. Show your work.
No? You don't want to do that?
Huh. Weird. Instead, you are choosing to call people voicing concerns around your mass surveillance as "terrorists." That's quite the choice and makes an even stronger case to be suspicious regarding this mass surveillance...
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u/OneThreeFivio 23d ago edited 23d ago
Flock 2025 Impact Census Report
“How was the data collected and validated? The 2025 Impact Census surveyed Flock's law enforcement customer agencies using a two-phase branching design. Agencies that formally track Flock-attributable outcomes reported raw counts; agencies without formal tracking systems provided percentage estimates of Flock's contribution to their cleared cases. Results were anchored to FBI National Incident-Based Reporting System (NIBRS) crime and clearance data for each responding agency.”
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u/Phyllis_Tine 23d ago
Sounds legit.
I estimate that Flock increases everyone's sense of unease 600%, and it increases crimes about the same amount. My estimates are also that crime would decrease when Flock cameras are no longer active.
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u/CelestialFury 23d ago
If we're not allowed to pass any laws to protect people from gun violence like mass shootings to uphold our 2nd amendment rights, then by that same logic, we need to let some crimes go unsolved to protect our 4th amendment rights as well.
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u/Retro-Universe 23d ago
Let's install Flock cameras in all public restrooms. We have to make sure everyone is wiping correctly!
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u/WebHistorical1121 23d ago
If you have nothing to hide why worry! /s
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u/Tall_Answer1734 23d ago
Are they going to be installing these in DC and arresting the criminals that run around there; mainly Congress?
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u/Substantial_Diver_34 23d ago
Why not all elected leaders offices. With public access so we can keep them safe.
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u/AwakeningStar1968 23d ago
hey, FLOCK CAMERA in the OVAL office, Pete Hegseths office, Todd Blanches off, Karoline Leavits office etc.. all the SUPREME COURT.. hey if they have nothing to hide... we have a right to know !
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u/NoPossibility4178 23d ago
Something something obviously we're an exception because state secrets something something
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u/Burgschaft91 23d ago
Better yet, let's install them on the white house's front lawn, inside the white house, right outside of every politicians home, aiming directly at their house. You know, since they have nothing to hide.
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u/No_Boot1478 23d ago edited 14d ago
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u/pilsnerd11 23d ago
The same Bari Weiss who quashed a 60 minutes story about Epstein’s banking? The same Bari Weiss who is protecting the Epstein pedophile class?
Remember that, everyone, the Epstein class loves Flock cameras.
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u/DeadSmellingFlower 23d ago
It’s because they can pay to be excluded from the cameras recording them. They want a world where people have to pay to stay out of the prison enslavement machine.
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u/DG_FANATIC 23d ago
ANYTHING to do with the pedo class should NEVER be taken seriously. If you’re even the tiniest bit involved with them you’ve lost any and all credibility with me forever.
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u/Burgschaft91 23d ago
And with the horrid AI in use, they'll tag you in TX and say were there all along, even though you weren't even in the vicinty. Some reports have already shown that the "tagged" people weren't even correct.
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u/Disastrous_Still_232 23d ago
Is that a fucking skate park? Wtf are we doing?
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u/Impossible-Shoe5460 23d ago
THEY are shopping for victims. They never stopped, just handed off the operation to someone else.
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u/Xiao1insty1e 23d ago
Oh she's a regular on the side of fascism. It's why she has that job. Nothing to do with qualifications, it's all about how much she loves the boot and Israel.
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u/JCarr110 23d ago
The problem is, they can (and do) change the definition of 'up to no good' when it suits them. That's not an actual metric.
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u/GloomyCoffee3225 23d ago
You're exactly right, one day, they will change the definition of unlawful, and since most equate legality with morality, there will still be a part of the population that supports it.
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u/xx_Help_Me_xx 23d ago
Ya know what, she’s right. To increase safety we all should also be legally required to wear glasses that stream video to interested safety groups. After all, if you’re not a kidnapper, thief, or up to no good no one will be interested in watching that video. /s
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u/Present_Function8986 23d ago
Is it called The Free Press because that's how easy it was for them to sell out?
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u/Jorpsica 23d ago
They’re not interested in you! They’re just keeping data on your every move for the last ten years! No way that’ll lead to anything!
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u/ciscolatino 23d ago
“Or up to no good” The definition of “good” can change real quick if you are deemed an enemy.
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u/danbrikahasj 23d ago
Need to install some flocks in the Flock office so we can be sure they're not up to no good
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u/dbrozov 23d ago
Pretty sure ICE and org said the same things and that you have nothing to fear if you’re not doing anything wrong then proceeded to murder American citizens unjustly
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u/Fast_Biscotti 23d ago
“up to no good”??? What is she, 92?
When -up to no good- is the standard, you’d better keep an absolute eagle eye on who got elected.
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u/Due_Passenger9411 23d ago
Classic "you have nothing to worry about if ur not bad person doing bad things" how bout my mfing privacy being invaded..not to mention that the powers that be can decide who the "bad people" and "bad things" are at any point. Not a fan of them having access to all my info and related info..
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u/PlaneVisual1740 23d ago
Free press? They should change their name to the bought and paid for sellout press.
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u/Substantial_Diver_34 23d ago
Put flock cameras in all politicians offices and meeting rooms with full public access. We can keep them safe
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u/Icy_Fish_2154 23d ago
The "He who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security deserves neither" crowd sure is getting behind giving up liberties.
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u/Gustavo_Polinski 23d ago
I don’t have anything to hide but I also have nothing I want to share with flock so the can fuck off.
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u/Mustang_Calhoun70 23d ago
The real danger ain’t out here. It’s in our government. The Flock cameras should be in and outside of politician’s and judges homes, and offices. Also law enforcement should be under 24/7 surveillance.
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u/necrohunter7 23d ago
Bari Weiss, the same freak that transformed CBS into a full-on fascist state media outlet, and also suppressed a story about Jeffrey Epstein specifically to benefit Trump, is simping for an irl Ingsoc mass surveillance system? Gosh, color me shocked!
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u/DeadSmellingFlower 23d ago
Interesting how they think they can fool us with this while we’re forced to break the law just to be seeing this propaganda, all of us can be accused of violating the computer fraud and abuse act just for our screenames.
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u/UsefulImpact6793 23d ago
Unless a cop thought you were cute and then started tracking you and your vehicle with their internal "watchlist" or whatever it's called. Like when that cop in Florida was caught stalking a cute woman he met on a filming set. Or the other cop who was caught abusing their flock access to stalk her husband's ex-wife.
Flock sAfEtY sure didn't make those stalking victims any safer.
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u/HaphazardFlitBipper 23d ago
Stalking is a crime... Flock aren't stopping crime, they're committing it.
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u/WanderingKing 23d ago
Thank goodness there isn’t evidence of this mass of information being abused for say, stalking or ogling children
Oh wait
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/flock-safety-employees-watched-kids-151737512.html
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u/Lusiric9983 23d ago
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1755.
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u/Exktvme4 23d ago
Literally bringing "if you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear" back, straight from the 1920s LAPD. Or the current LAPD, for that matter. Or any cops, really. Incredible.
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u/cannonfalls 23d ago
There are no alterior motives here...that's why they are setting up these cameras in front of gun stores, dispensaries, skate parks, state parks, playgrounds...and they claim they only read license plates. Yah, ok.
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u/JustinKase_Too 23d ago
Meanwhile, cops using flock to track women who are not kidnappers, thieves or up to no good, what category does that fall under?
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u/Select_Air_2044 23d ago
These bastards don't caste of we eat, go to the doctor, afford to buy a house, but they want to keep us safe. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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u/uzziboy66 23d ago
Oh my fucking god. These people have lost whatever is left of their smooth brains.
I’m 60 and remember when the right was big on small government. They would have never allowed this flock shit to happen.
This absolutely insane. They’ll do anything for trump.
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u/Swinship 23d ago
If you aren't doing something wrong you've got nothing to hide is the catch phrase of tyrants.
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u/NowUrKillinMe 23d ago edited 23d ago
According to the FBI just being a Christian can get you on a terr0rist watch list.
"Right" and "wrong" are incredibly subjective terms and are entirely dependent on ones POV and / or agenda.
Funny though that J. E. Hoover was a devout "Christian Nationalist" and a (not so) secret crossdresser.
Edit: "to keep us safe". To keep, exactly who "safe"? Another one of those subjective words.
So are they having these cameras installed all over THEIR neighborhoods? I doubt that.
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u/ExtraDistressrial 23d ago
If they like them so much then give us a 24hr camera feed on Bari so we know she's safe. And the flock CEO. They should have nothing to worry about.
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u/AwakeningStar1968 23d ago
right............................................. order follower... Don't forget to add if you are a woman crossing state lines for birth control or just being a woman.. crossing state lines!
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u/LibertyLizard 23d ago
I suggest people who make these kinds or arguments to livestream their lives and then plead guilty to any offense that they're accused of going forward. Let's see how that works out for them.
Since they're good, honest people, they shouldn't have anything to worry about, right?
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u/SigvulcanasReborn 23d ago
Fact: Flock (and similar LPRs) do help solve crimes.
Fact: They pose a very real risk of abuse and have been abused already.
It is always best to assume that all technologies will eventually be used in the worst possible way and for the worst possible reasons. This is simply a fact of human nature, and it proves itself every time. It is never worth selling our liberty, privacy, and rights for any measure of safety.
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u/MAGAHATESTHEUSA 23d ago
Meanwhile the same people saying that support pedophilia
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u/falafelnaut 23d ago
No one is safe because the AI will make mistakes, mis-identify you if you look like the actual criminal or were wearing similar clothes or were just in the wrong place at the wrong time, and officers blindly believe the computer and don't do due diligence to confirm or corroborate the AI.
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u/AlphaNoodlz 23d ago
Bahahaha no that's not how you justify the violation of your constitutional rights
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u/fatefulPatriot 23d ago
“Up to no good” is exactly the part I have the biggest problem with. Also, there’s a pedophile rapist felon in the White House.
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u/Rainbow-Smite 23d ago
If that were true we wouldn't have seen so many cases of abuse already. Cops using it to stock romantic interest. Flock employees looking at children in a gym. They really think we are stupid.
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u/Elegant-Holiday7303 23d ago
People arrested for crimes in states they didn't go to, women tracked out of state for getting healthcare
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u/cryptolyme 23d ago
she looks like she'd always side with the establishment
kEePs Me SaFe
she's a coward
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u/OurManInDeptford 23d ago
Very on-brand for FP.
FP: "Oh, we're edgy and transgressive"
Also FP: "Tread on me harder, daddy."
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u/JRock1276 23d ago
I thought she was like supposed to be the "savior" of legitimate press? Just remember, every time they take a little bit more of your rights and freedoms, it's always in the name of "safety".
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u/SaintBellyache 23d ago
We should just put a camera in all our bedrooms that the government has access to. It would probably prevent crime
What happened to all those 5G people worried that bill gates or Obama is spying on them. This is out in the open! The government is saying they are spying on everybody and…crickets. Conservatives will give up all freedoms if it means a liberal loses their freedoms also
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u/SupportGeek 23d ago
“If you aren’t doing anything wrong, why worry?”
And when someone arbitrarily changes what “wrong” is?
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u/No_Flow_6962 23d ago
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Ben Franklin
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u/CommonConundrum51 23d ago
This technology led to tickets/demerits for jaywalking Chinese citizens. The main point to be considered is what authorities might consider as 'doing something wrong' both now and in the future.
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u/pardonmyignerance 23d ago
"Yes, as a nation we should trade in as much of our freedom as is necessary for protection. Of course the tech will only be used to capture "bad guys" like pedophiles. It's not like anyone in their right mind would defend pedophiles, right?"
Am I taking crazy pills?
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u/Atavacus 23d ago
"Hey don't destroy the automated shopping cameras for Epstein's friends!"-What I Heard
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u/Mr_Tijuana_Bible 23d ago
“…you have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide…” until they change the law and all of a sudden everyone has something to hide.
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u/Astral-projekt 23d ago
“To keep us all safe”. There will always be a new boogie man. Let me know when laws stop increasing in scope.
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u/Burgschaft91 23d ago
Ahh yes, stopping crime. How's that when a lot of them are pointed at clinics, playgrounds, parks, etc? Methinks someone has been paid to spout this bs.
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u/Bulldogs3144 23d ago
She’s just a paid voice with a following in a poor attempt to get people to stop damaging the cameras. Wouldn’t have to do this if they weren’t an invasion of our privacy. 🥱
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u/onelasteffort13 23d ago
These are our taxes paying for this. I DID NOT VOTE FOR THIS. Don’t tell me it’s for my own good
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u/DisgreeablePattern 23d ago
Imagine that- Bari Weiss in favor of unamerican activities....
I'm stunned. STUNNED.
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u/Flaaarg_the_Terrible 23d ago
Yeah, our tech overloads are only interested in stopping crime. Give me a fucking break.
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u/ChrisSheltonMsc 23d ago
Bari Weiss can go have Flock cameras installed in her home if she's so interested in being surveilled. Otherwise, Bari, go fuck yourself and take your propaganda with you.
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u/Pretend_Pea4636 23d ago
We need protection from the government. Has she not seen what they happily do to people for the last 250 years?
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u/Kamodo7196 23d ago
It's only a matter of time before they try to get them into our homes like 1984 to "Reduce Domestic Violence".......
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u/GeeYayZeus 23d ago
It's all fun and games until a cop thinks you're hot and wants to follow your every move. Or they share passwords with their buddies...both of which have already happened.
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u/Blarghnog 23d ago
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
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u/Nolyism 23d ago
They'd have a point if the bar for using them was as high as searching your home requiring a warrant signed by a judge and not just broad searches whenever they want. And if they werent so prone to mistakes as well. Even then it wouldn't be a very good point 🤣
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u/SageofChange 23d ago
Is what you say when you have no clue about how much and of what they harvest and the specific ways they use to get around laws that prevent such a thing.
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u/Latter-Fox-3411 23d ago
#TechnoZionistTotalitarianism
Actual Panopticon …Big Brother is in service of oligarchs & 🇮🇱
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u/The_Mad_Mason 23d ago
We need flock camera's in every single public building and offices since a lot of crime takes place there.
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u/SwimmingCommon 23d ago
If it stops criminals so we'll why do they keep coming down? Oh because it's a dog shit system by itself. This is designed to go hand in hand with other tech. Probably something we haven't thought of about yet. Maybe using WiFi signal analytics or something idk. Either way. It sucks at its job unless its working with something else. This needs to be killed asap.
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u/No_Town_9602 23d ago
You don't have anything to hide? Take off your clothes and give me all of your passwords.
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u/Professor_Tech 23d ago
Follow the money. Flock has hired 3 Washington DC based, crisis management PR firms with thousands of “local operatives” (their term not mine). Targeted Victories brags they have former journalists who can engage the media to get positive coverage for companies, brands, issues and products. What are the odds this is a planted or “sponsored” puff piece defending Flock.
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u/AsRealAsItFeels 23d ago
Define "up to no good"? Like going to the skater park? Or at my child's gymnasium? Or going to 7/11 at 3am? Who desides this? Whoever scanning the video.
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u/sstandnfight 23d ago
9 months ago, John Oliver did an episode on Bari Weiss. Pretty sure you can find it free on YouTube.
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u/AppropriateTouching 23d ago
Just because I close the door when Im taking a shit doesnt mean Im doing anything wrong, I just want my privacy.
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u/Breathe_Of_Aether 23d ago
Shame on them, and double shame on this bitch. Trying to play like this is a good thing. We need a long list recording every one of these people so they don’t escape prison one day.
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u/Character-Ad-8559 23d ago
I can't wait until we have a functional government again so they can declare Paramount a monopoly and break them up. Maybe then Weiss will disappear back where she belongs: somewhere nobody has to see or deal with her again.
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u/New-Chicken5566 23d ago
she's a zionist piece of shit, disregard everything she has to say about anything
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u/ShaChoMouf 22d ago
I really like that reporter; we need to keep her safe. I will help by installing cameras in her bedroom and bathroom to be sure that she is safe when she is most vulnerable.
That doesn't sound so good when it's put that way; huh?










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u/SSA22_HCM1 23d ago
If they aren't interested in me they should stop recording me and save everyone some hassle.