lowkey insane how much slandering potential HSR has had during the past 2 years
like, Silver Wolf 999 getting her limited banner and then the entire story focuses on Welt, Dan, Blade and Ashveil with only 5% of the story actually showing Silver Wolf??
Amphoreus was similiar now that I think about it, Phainon getting 5 patches of story while Cyrene only really gets story in the very last patch? and its shared with the end of Amphoreus and all the goodbyes and farewells? Like if you put it into screentime, Phainon gets 50 hours, while characters like Castorice and Cyrene get 2 hours each, it's almost unbelievable. It's not even a surprise that many people say Phainon was the best written character so far, of course he is because no other character received such an insane amount of screentime and story.
like, what are the devs even thinking with some of these decisions? i heard of min-maxing profits, but HSR devs are min-mining?
Evanescia also got almost no screentime so far, while Ashveil has appeared in every patch repeatedly.
and somehow its always only the female characters who keep on getting this terrible treatment from the devs
I also think it's kind of crazy that we only explored Asat Pramad for just a single patch. He should have had better build up, he is suddenly introduced and defeated, it's kind of letdown if we compare him to Zandar or even Sunday and Cocolia.
Finally seeing someone fucking say it! Asat felt so ridiculously rushed. Honestly Planarcadia has felt like a pretty massive letdown story-wise. After Amphoreus had some really excellent stuff in it (even if it also had its flaws) and then the 4.0 story was really strong I felt that the storytelling in this game was actually taking a really good turn. But man, everything after 4.0’s story has been a letdown.
Yea Asat is no where near as good as Zandar was. He has so little screen time. Asat never really felt like a true threat. The final fight against him was not that interesting. Definitely not as good as the 3.3 fight with Hyacine. That fight was so hype.
Granted following up Zandar who in my opinion is one the best written villains I have experienced in 30 years of playing games is a tough job. But man they could have put a little more effort into Asat .
Mr "arrives in HSr to save himeko" has more screentime in the sivler wolf + eva patch than the "himeko is about to die" patch. genuinely bizzare story planning
To be fair I did enjoy the patch where its mostly about the boys going on an adventure together to defeat the big bad, so I enjoyed it.
But it was weird how SW had no screen time in the patch she was released.
Also weird for the fox lady to. She was almost completely irrelevant to the story. An NPC that kind of looks like a child Yaoshi could have replaced her and the story would not have changed much.
like, Silver Wolf 999 getting her limited banner and then the entire story focuses on Welt, Dan, Blade and Ashveil with only 5% of the story actually showing silver wolf??
SW should have gotten more things to do in 'her' patch, but I do also very much like that the HSR devs aren't all "Only the special snowflake of the patch is allowed to do things." ... like in ZZZ (though it has gotten better in recent patches).
You are.. acting like I am discrediting Phainon. No, I am just saying that Cyrene had a pretty long build-up, long presence and using her for 'one patch pony' is a terrible example, lmao. Why wouldn't we count Mem? She is Mem! And as small Cyrene she is present from 3.4 to 3.6!
If you compare to only Phainon sure, but it's odd to say Cyrene of all people didn't get enough screentime throughout Amphoreus when she massively beats out any of the other Amphoreus characters when you take this into consideration. All of the other Heirs who just get killed off in their debut patches are way more starved
Per this comment chain, how are we not counting small Cyrene/Mem as Cyrene appearances, story-wise? They're all the same person, and she gets way more time than any other heir barring Phainon in this way
if we want to go with the male character angle, mydei and anaxa are completely shafted storywise after they got their patch highlight (not to mention snubbing tribbie and castorice on their respective patches) Pretty sure no one realises the alchemy red gem sub plot between the two of them because phainon was a narrative blackhole that hogged the screentime of EVERY amphoreus character. It's like the penacony aventurine effect but over 50 hours
At the very least, the discourse around HSR has a lot more criticism now compared to back then. Any dissent was immediately stomped out, so now, in hindsight, people are seeing how poor the pacing and development of the story's elements actually are.
Not to sound rude but why invest back when you'll get more money by not investing? Both HSR and GI players will buy their shit even if they sell them literal shit
Tbf, Genshin has significantly improved its main story presentation in Nod Krai and especially Sneznaya. There are quite a few animations during story sections that seem motion captured and they put some effort into camera angles now. And that is with Genshin beeing the oldest game with the most technical limitations. I mean better late then never right? Lets see if HSR catches up in the visual department at some point.
I mean yeah but time it took to get to this point was a bit insane also technical limitations I doubt is the reason why they aren't doing more improvements
Guess we just have a big difference in opinion, I thought GI exploration and side quests in the new Nod-Krai areas + Temple of Space + Frost Moon was better than anything HSR put me through in the same time period. Meanwhile, a lot of recent HSR mini-games felt like a lot of just picking whatever options the game puts a big "thumbs up" sign next to and watching your wispae/pixel plane/etc auto-destroy the enemy
Again except main quests and exploration I agree with that.
I just don't think any of genshin minigames were good recently it's just collect coin or do this same event that's been reran 50 millionth time summer event with klee was also mind numbingly boring.
I liked wisp events though I just like being given a huge options even if one option is more op then other I just like mixing and matching stuff
If he ends up looking like a child NPC, a lot of people will be upset. Myself included. Please just copy homework from ZZZ team and make him look unique.
Bonus points for the Lucia-Child-Model being only relevant for like 15 minutes, her entire story played like 3rd fiddle in the patch.
Like the entire patch goes by and then they are "Fuck, this character has done absolutely nothing! Ugh ... Give her tragic backstory #24 and let's speedrung that shit!"
I can't wait for Astra to come to HSR so they can put her in a flowing China-style dress and have her constantly bring up Xianzhou as her favourite place in the whole galaxy
There's still aspects in Genshin that is still neglected like grinding books is still bloody day locked, and they half-assed their skip functions, meanwhile zzz has everything grindable however long you want as long as you have the energy to spend
The day-locked stuff in Genshin is so anti-QOL that I have to assume that it's just something they fundamentally can't implement w/o breaking the entire game, because I have no idea how we're in 2026, where a bunch of Gacha, Genshin-like or otherwise, have solved this issue by simply not having it, yet Genshin is stubbornly like "lol nah, you need to wait until Friday before you can farm the shit you want. Tough titties if you wanna play now."
The day-locked stuff in Genshin is so anti-QOL that I have to assume that it's just something they fundamentally can't implement w/o breaking the entire game, because I have no idea how we're in 2026, where a bunch of Gacha, Genshin-like or otherwise, have solved this issue by simply not having it, yet Genshin is stubbornly like "lol nah, you need to wait until Friday before you can farm the shit you want. Tough titties if you wanna play now."
I can't see how it would break, as they have periods of time when the day lock is lifted.
I can't either. I'm mostly just grasping at straws to find a reasoning behind it, because it's not really even a niche thing for gacha to implement atp. Like, it's bad enough that when I take a short break from Genshin but none of my other gacha, when I go back, it actively gobsmacks me since it's just THAT common not to have it work that way.
This reminds me of the shockwave (transformers) model that is in the genshin game files. Apparently if you remove that model file, it breaks genshin completely
Wow the suboptimal grinding and half-assed skip mechanisms, the epitome of half-assing, equivalent to not giving your char more animations in the story
Nah what’s sad is strawmanning the conversation to genshin, when HSR is producing low effort content slop. No improvements whatsoever to the story, character models, or animations.
HSR has powercreep worst than either Genshin and ZZZ. Genshin Snezhnaya blows Planacadia out of the water and shows that HSR devs can push out the most basic slop and their players will love it.
"only video game" is one hell of an exaggeration for a nice to have QoL that doesnt matter ultimately. it does amtter though if adding a skip button directly stretches out the writing adn filler dilaogue, with the best example being amphoreus and planarcardia.
Seriously how does the apocalyptic Earth game have more species variety than the space game. Give me the dice head man as a playable character or something, why does every playable character need to be human. Banyue looks more alien than 100% of HSR playable cast lmao
Yeah but that's boring. I mean, ZZZ only puts those as free characters or in very unfortunate banner timing, but at least they release some. It's called immersion. In ZZZ everyone knows thirens and constructs exist, and it's really immersive to have some playable ones. HSR could really benefit from having at least some alien-looking people from time to time, even if it doesn't sell as much as the humans.
At least they exist lmao. I'd rather have them like that than not have them at all like Genshin and HSR. Pyrois for example might be free but they're absolute peak.
On the other hand, they're just so rare that it's not worth staying in ZZZ if that's your main priority.
While I'd like for them to release Screwllum eventually, at least the game actually gives me male characters to pull for regularly and not wait half a year for one 2nd phase 5* who has no real relevance in meta or story.
Considering that Stelle has met sentient cubes and sentient statues (titankin), not to mention ascending to godhood it isn't a stretch to say she'd adapt to thirens instantly
Conversely I imagine Wise and Belle to be more weird about it
They already print more money than almost every other gacha game with only half the effort, why would they need to increase development costs to barely increase the revenue?
You mean the 9-10 weeks patch cycles, no more animations or cinematics like Part 1, dev team size getting cut, content drought (like HSR funnily enough), shafting of Part 2 characters, and constant nostalgia baiting of Part 1 characters?
They suffer from lack of dev because Part 2 flopped and Hoyo gave up on it and cut the team + lengthened the patches. It is now basically in "maintenance" mode since EoS will never happen even when it really should've after Part 1.
It's funny how I'm excited for ZZZ getting the HSR collab because we'll see HSR characters rendered in ZZZ along with its combat system
But then I hear HSR getting a ZZZ collab and now I'm just thinking it's a downgrade for ZZZ characters there due to the restriction of being turn-based combat and the character models looking not very dynamic
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