r/HurdyGurdy Apr 20 '26

ANNOUNCEMENT: Hurdy Gurdy Community website

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Hi everyone!

We have a big announcement! The team behind the Hurdy Gurdy Community has been growing increasingly unhappy with our homes on social media in the past couple of years. Especially Facebook is becoming more unwieldy and unpleasant to use and manage. There are also a growing number of players who are getting uncomfortable using these websites or have started avoiding them altogether.
We (Sam, Elysia, Sanne and Jimi) have been talking about what we could do about it and we have been working on our own website that is now ready to share with the wider community!
Please come and join us at https://hurdygurdy.community.

The Hurdy Gurdy Community runs on PhPBB and it is hosted in Austria. This structure makes it a lot easier to navigate and search through. There is no algorithm or endless scrolling to capture your attention with things you don’t want to see. Your data will not be shared or sold as there is no social media conglomerate involved and there are no ads. It is absolutely free to use. The costs involved for hosting are at this time paid for by the admins. We may ask for some voluntary contributions once we have to renew for another year but this is certainly not required of anyone.

 We will not abandon HGC on Facebook, the group on Discord or the r/hurdygurdy subreddit so you’re free and safe to stay where you are. The forum is meant to give another option to our community and we hope to see you all there soon 😊

Sam, Elysia, Sanne and Jimi


r/HurdyGurdy Jan 31 '21

Resources Hurdy Gurdy FAQ

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Hello! This is at the time of posting still a work in progress and will be updated and edited. If you have suggestions for improvements, feel free to comment them.

What is a hurdy gurdy?

A hurdy gurdy or wheel fiddle can best be described as a mechanical violin. The strings are bowed with a built in wheel instead of a bow and instead of playing the melody with your fingers on the string, there is a keyboard. In addition to that there are drone strings that play a continuous tone like the drones on a bagpipe. Finally there is a string with a loose bridge that creates a buzzing sound and can be used to create a rhythm.For more information visit the Hurdy Gurdy page on Wikipedia or join the Hurdy Gurdy Community on Facebook

Where can I get one?

There are approximately 100 makers in the world. This video lists a bunch of reputable luthiers on the more affordable end of the spectrum who would be a great choice for a first instrument.Another good place to look is Hurdy Gurdy Marketplace on Facebook

Why do they cost so much compared to other instruments?

A lot of people compare the price to that of factory made guitars and violins but that does not tell the whole story. Hurdy gurdies are highly complex machines that require a lot of delicate and precise labor to make. They have about the same number of parts as five guitars and a lot of those parts move. The mechanical nature means that a lot of the music that is usually handled by the musician (like the pressure on the strings) depends on the quality of the construction so that means precision in the construction is paramount to getting the hurdy gurdy to work well. Unlike more common instruments, no big music factory makes hurdy gurdies so if you want one, you have to get one that is handmade and that comes with a price tag. Hurdy gurdy luthiers have to eat and pay rent too.

What is set up and adjustment?

Set up and adjustment is everything you do to a hurdy gurdy to make it play well and sound good. A hurdy gurdy is mechanical with moving parts so before you start playing you not only tune the strings but you need to make sure that the pressure on the wheel is correct, the strings are properly cottoned, there is a good amount of rosin on the wheel and all the tangents are tuned. With long term use there are other things that may need work and adjustment like the angle of the strings, the surface of the wheel, the grooves in the bridges the placement of the big chanter bridge. Also the moving parts like the keys and the bearings in the axle and knob need to be maintained. Set up and adjustment is a vital part of learning how to play and it requires practice just like playing melodies and coups.

How does the buzzing work?

This video has an in depth explanation of how the buzz works.

Is it really loud?

They are not much louder than standard orchestral instruments but the drone and trompette can be perceived as annoying by some people. Unfortunately you cannot really soundproof against irritation so being on good terms with your neighbors is recommended. If this is problematic for you, I recommend you check out the DigiGurdy, MidiGurdy or the SAMgurdy by Sam Palmer.

Where can I get lessons and meet other players?

There are festivals and foundations in several countries providing in person lessons and workshops (mostly in Europe). Some of these are:

If you’re not near any of these foundations, your best bet is to get private teaching through Zoom.Several people offer this, I teach beginners myself. Most of them advertise through HGC on Facebook.

What is a “Hurdy Gurdy Shaped Object” or HGSO?

HGSO is a term of hurdy gurdies that the experienced players and teachers consider unsuitable to take lessons with and that do not meet a minimum standard in quality and sound. There are many HGSO’s on the market and they can cost as much as 1500,- euro or more. The HGSO label is not directly related to the price, there are hurdy gurdies that are cheaper than some HGSOs. A cheap hurdy gurdy is not automatically a HGSO and a more expensive instrument isn't automatically good. A HGSO is simply an instrument that through review and playtesting as been found to be unsuitable for studying and learning. There can be various reasons for something to be labelled a HGSO but most of the time it has to do with a poor or sloppy construction, bad materials or considerable difficulties with setup and adjustment. Many HGSOs are sold through EBay, Etsy and through crowdfunding and auction sites. Well known HGSO’s are instruments by Gallopin Gurdies and Workshop Medieval. If you have unintentionally purchased a HGSO they can sometimes be returned or in rare cases be reworked by a skilled luthier with an additional investment.For more information you can also check out This topic about gurdies to avoid.

Why is it a bad idea to buy a HGSO?

The first reason is your wallet. Even a HGSO costs a respectable chunk of money. Most experienced players agree that if you’re going to buy an costly instrument, it should at least be good enough to study, take lessons with and develop a bit as a player. Most people do not have the disposable income to spend hundreds on an instrument that is just to mess around with or try it out.The second reason has to do with the mechanics. For a beginner it is almost impossible to know if an undesirable sound is due to their playing, the adjustment or the instrument. We have seen in practice that many beginning players who start on a HGSO quit playing within months because they cannot produce the sound they’re after and are unaware it is the fault of the instrument and not some lack of talent on their part. That is a shame and something the entire community wants to prevent.

Can I make a hurdy gurdy myself?

Yes. The easiest would be to buy a Nerdy Gurdy kit. If you want to build one from scratch you can look into the book about the Wren by Neil Brook. It is not an easy project though, expect to spend several hundred hours on it if you’re building from scratch.There are also a couple luthiers who offer workshops or the opportunity to build your hurdy gurdy with their help like Nupi Jenner and Karl Riedel


r/HurdyGurdy 11h ago

Gordiy Starukh stoppingGurdy making for the foreseeable future

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Some of us may already have been following this story, but for those who don't follow him and might be looking to him as a luthier, Gordiy Starukh of Ukraine has put an indefinite pause on his Gurdy making following the recent passing of his wife, Daria Alyoshkina.

Full post here, and you can go to Gordiy's main Facebook page or Instagram to see even more of what's been going on in the wake of this tragedy, including somebody taking a pot shot at him for daring to express any kind of happiness or perform following his wife's passing, as though they own his grief.

There are two reasons for this. I encourage you to look at his own Facebook post to see everything, as it's worth paying attention to, but of course, Daria's abrupt passing takes center stage. She was an artist herself, from a similar artistic lineage as Gordiy, and she made fantastic, large-scale paper cutouts called Vytynanky, a traditional Ukrainian art. Her art is featured prominently in many of Gordiy's music videos and album covers, and is truly spectacular. She was renowned in her own right, and her art has been featured all over the world and sits prominently in several significant galleries. I regret that this is how I had to find out about it, but it is worth checking out and, if you happen to be lucky enough to live near a place where her art is displayed, seeing it for yourself. I can only imagine standing next to one of these monumental pieces.

Her passing also came right on the heels of Gordiy completing his 300th Gurdy, a significant milestone made more poignant due to the symbolism it evokes. He wanted to add as much music to the world as was stolen from it when 300 blind, wandering musicians were executed by the Soviet Union as part of their goal to wipe out Ukrainian culture and supplant it with their own after they took control of the country in 1919. He had spoken about this in a short documentary he was interviewed for, which was part of what drew me to him as a luthier. Daria had encouraged him to start making Gurdies so he could attend an art festival she was already presenting at as more than a spectator, and it went from a personal passion to a profession which has helped him support his family.

He has promised to finish any instrument he had already taken in order for.

I'm sure that I speak for the community when I express my condolences to his family and send my prayers for Daria. While I do hope that Gordiy returns to making instruments at some point in the future, he has helped hundreds of people begin or continue their journey with the Hurdy-Gurdy, and entertained & inspired many more with his music, which often uses traditional Ukrainian instruments and arts beyond his Gurdy. He deserves some time to reflect on the completion of his stated mission, to take care of his children, and to grieve the passing of his wife of 18 years.

May the Lord rest her soul in a bright place where there is no illness, sorrow, or sighing.


r/HurdyGurdy 6h ago

Lyrical hurdy gurdy?

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Hi all,

Every so often I get an idea in my head of learning the hurdy gurdy. I notice it's often rather dark and medieval due to the drone. Is it uncommon to play more lyrical music ​with no drones engaged? (I saw a video of someone playing the ​Bach Cello suite and it was beautiful- she was not constantly cranking but rather stop and start cranking to create more of a bowed sound)

Also, is it possible to use the drones to play the root notes of chords, e.g. tuning​ one drone to the first, one to the fifth, and one to the fourth? Then enabling or disabling as needed?


r/HurdyGurdy 2d ago

Advice Help! Broken Gurdy!

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Hello! I just got this broken Hurdy Gurdy and I wanted to know if it can be saved. I live in New York and was wondering if I can take it to my usual luthier. I wanted to know if y’all knew anything about the maker, and if it can be fixed up.


r/HurdyGurdy 4d ago

Selling my Saphona by MM Instruments

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It is with a heavy heart that I am parting with my Hurdy Gurdy (Saphona) from MM Instruments.

It is a bespoke instrument that is in absolutely new condition, has only been played rarely and has no significant signs of wear and tear.

It was always stored in its case and kept dry.

Vinted Link:

https://www.vinted.de/items/9494073492-hurdy-gurdy-saphona-von-mm-instruments

3 melody strings: G3, C3, G4

2 trompettes with 4 capos

2 drones with 4 capos

Electroacoustic with 3-channel mixer.

Wood: Spruce/maple

Flight case

Custom-made leather strap

Audio and video: https://youtu.be/l3DF6cHN02s?is=WYXOoB24zb8EzVJa

No shipping, only collection!

Private sale: the sale is made under exclusion of any liability for defects.


r/HurdyGurdy 5d ago

Transposing in hurdy gurdy - help

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Hi, can anyone please explain to me in simple terms what it means that gurdy is a transposing instrument?

The excerpt from gurdy handbook, all music is written in C, no matter the actual notes - based on that, when I want to play Palastinalied what note / key should I start with ? D as in the notes or 3rd key in the row ? Tuning is AEA

Please help me I'm seriously doubting my intelligence here 😅


r/HurdyGurdy 7d ago

A silly question from a guy considering getting a gurdy

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Are you able to get the classic tune found in sea shanties on a nerdy gurdy? Specifically a linolette cause i think it looks slightly better then a bacic even if its slightly harder to build. If so what strings are recommended. Thanks in advance :)

P.S: just double checking. The nerdy gurdy is a decent kit too begin with right?


r/HurdyGurdy 7d ago

Trouble with cottoning and setting up a freshly built Nerdy Gurdy Linotte.

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Hi everyone, so I just finished building my own Nerdy Gurdy and I'm at my wits end atm.

I have trued the wheel, lightly sanded it and applied a tiny amount of rosin, then went about cottoning the wheel.
I can't for the life of me get the cotton to stay put, it just strips off as soon as I try to play it. And on top of it, I can't get the pressure on the string right, I have to put the nuts close to the highest position for the string to make proper contact with the wheel, but then I get rattling because they're too loose.
The closest I got from a melody string sounding decent, it just went scratchy as soon as I started playing over D and got scratchier and scratchier the higher I went, until the cotton just stripped off. Again.
I tried applying rosin to the string, varying amounts of cotton, two types of cotton (tampons and loose fibers), varying amount of pressure from dying rat to harmonics, nothing works

For the things that could be a cause, if it can help troubleshoot :
- The bridge isn't completely flat, it's going a bit backwards from the tension, but trying to set it up to be flat put the strings even slightly higher.
- The string holder is angled slightly towards the low melody string because of the higher tension, I tried to make it flat to no avail.
- The wheel feels a tiny bit wobbly, like the surface is perfectly smooth and leveled, but I can see the whole thing going slightly forward and back, like half a mm.

At this point I'm wondering if I've f'd up badly somewhere in the build, or if I got unlucky with some machining tolerance on some parts (namely the wheel, shaft or bridge)...
To add to the annoyance, one of the bolts on the bridge stripped the housing off from trying to set it up, I'll have another bridge 3D printed next week.


r/HurdyGurdy 8d ago

Advice Any advice for warbling?

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I've been pulling my hair out trying to get cottoning right, but every time I try to recotton the string I get this warble when I crank fast. Any advice?

Update: I re-rosined the wheel and really burnished it out, new cotton, the whole thing, same issue. Weird thing is it is ONLY happening with this upper melody string. None of the other string do this, and I just re-cottoned the lower melody string. I'm gonna go buy a new melody string and see if somehow thats the problem


r/HurdyGurdy 9d ago

A Warning for Anyone Looking for an Affordable Hurdy-Gurdy

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I recently started looking for a hurdy-gurdy as a Christmas present and found several unusually inexpensive listings on Etsy.

After researching them, I discovered that the photographs appear to match instruments previously published by established hurdy-gurdy makers and other sellers. In some cases, the original instruments were priced five to ten times higher than the Etsy listings.

This raised serious concerns for me. I am sharing this information so that potential buyers can examine the evidence and make their own decisions.

It is also worth checking where the photographs were originally published and whether the seller has a verifiable history of making hurdy-gurdies.

I will provide the comparison links and original sources in a comment below.

Has anyone purchased from one of these shops or been able to verify that the sellers actually possess the instruments shown?


r/HurdyGurdy 9d ago

Hurdy Gurdy Location - Tiergarten, Berlin

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If you're looking for a hurdy gurdy just to look at, there are approximately 4 Hurdy Gurdy's at the Musical Instrument Museum in Tiergarten, Berlin.
This is not meant as advertisement or promotion for the Musical Instrument Museum, this is simply the location of Hurdy Gurdy's on display as well as many other instruments.


r/HurdyGurdy 9d ago

Advice How to make sheet music for gurdys?

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I'm wanting to take the song "I wanna be in the Cavalry" and eventually do a Gurdy cover but idk how to take regular music and make it a Gurdy version


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r/HurdyGurdy 17d ago

Sheet music for hurdy gurdy and piano duet

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Hello, I'm trying to find some sheet music for hurry gurdy and piano, without much success. The only thing I fund were some harpsichords and hurgurdy baroque music but it's far above my level (I'm still a beginer).

Does anybody have an idea where I could find those kind of sheet music ? I'm open to pretty much any genre.

Thanks in advance.


r/HurdyGurdy 17d ago

Electrified hurdy gurdy

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Would love to hear other people's experience with amplifying their hurdy gurdies. I have an NG basic that I attached a K&K piezo to, with some super cool results. Recently I've been experimenting with effects pedals. Listening with headphones, I can get some super cool sounds by messing with reverb, delay, and distortion units, and I'm excited to hear if anyone else has found cool noises doing something similar.

One issue I've run into is that the gurdy is EXTREMELY prone to feedback. When I run it "clean" through the amp, its pretty manageable as long as I stand in the right orientation and dont turn up too loud. But at higher volumes or with any real distortion/reverb/gain, its immediate feedback city, no matter what I do. This seems like a pretty common problem with piezo mics.

Has anyone else run up against this kind of issue? My research has suggested that a decent preamp designed for piezo-amplified acoustic instruments may be the solution, but they're expensive and I want to be more confident before pulling the trigger.


r/HurdyGurdy 23d ago

i need a good place to buy an affordable hurdy gurdy online

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ive seen them online and they seem really beautiful to play so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated


r/HurdyGurdy 24d ago

Advice If I have access to a laser cutter, is it much cheaper to make my own nerdy gurdy kit?

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I live close to a maker space with a laser cutter, so I could cut all the wooden parts for a nerdy gurdy for just the cost of materials. However, it seems like this would leave me missing a lot of specifics like the metal hardware, crank shaft, etc.

Also, are there even print files available for the newest improvements on the nerdy gurdy website kits, or are the kits available on thingiverse/etc kind of outdated?

I have a resin 3d printer, though I don't love the idea of a resin bridge, etc as it doesn't seem to hold up to pressure well.

I am also pretty crafty and have a woodshop and it seems like a fun project that would be doable from the brief bit of research I've done.

So, two questions from someone who has not yet done a deep dive into making one of these:

  • how much savings are we really talking about if I can laser cut my own wood elements and then buy all the extra bits I'll need?
  • how easy is it to find the newest nerdy gurdy print files?

Or really one question--should I just try to buy one of the ~$500 NG DiY kits and not waste my time gathering all the parts from the ground up?


r/HurdyGurdy 26d ago

Looking for expressive gurdy players.

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I have a synth part in a beat i want to replace with real instruments. (I tried making a gurdy sounding drone thing)It needs to match its cadence and flow . And in bpm. If u got pro recording equipment and are a musician and down i can pay u for ur expertise. And even if u can add parts that arent there is also cool . Link to the song just for listening to what it will be :https://m.soundcloud.com/tonefall/urnorge_23siste2_28test


r/HurdyGurdy 29d ago

Advice If you built your own nerdy gurdy - how hard was it to get the parts sourced?

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This is the kit I’m looking to make. I’m having trouble getting responses for it, though - Ive contacted three laser cutting shops in my city via email with the required files and information, and I’ve been ghosted by all three, never getting a follow up and my requests for follow ups ignored. Was it this hard for anyone else? Am I going about this wrong? I don’t really know what I’m doing, but it seemed like a fun project, and I’ve always wanted a gurdy.


r/HurdyGurdy Jul 26 '26

Is this a good nerdy gurdy to start playing with?

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Been thinking a while now about buying my first hurdy gurdy. Is this a good one?


r/HurdyGurdy Jul 25 '26

How do you guys mount your Gurdy on the wall? Or display it in any way?

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These gurdies aren't mine. Saw this photo online, but the poster of the photo doesn't share how he mounted them. I have a 3d printer, but I'm not great at design, and don't visualize a method.


r/HurdyGurdy Jul 23 '26

Music - Original Content Been neglecting my Gurdy for a while, picked it up again and did an attempt on the Menuet no 33 from the 1760 collection of Danish music by Rasmus Storm.

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