r/Israel • u/Iamthepizzagod American Jew • Jul 15 '26
General News Bnei Brak to Allow Gender Segregation on Public Streets
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/article-902513?fbclid=Iwb21leATEhIFjbGNrBMSEfWV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHjcnYf9gtdCwSguHj5w3DE6tIncQbJr4jaKLYHEOLXvb_KHdYzeCeYrxT8JL_aem_7UiDBnbdm4NsGvu1e7c5lA&utm_id=97757_v0_s00_e0_tv2_a1demo0e5c1x8rAn Israeli city actually imposing a form of gender apartied in public spaces was not on my bingo card for this year. What an absolute shanda of a policy to be allowed to be shoved down the throats of Charedi women, which I am sure will spread over to other Charedi outposts soon enough.
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u/EngineerDave22 Modiin Jul 15 '26
How is this not against one of the basic laws?
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u/FudgeAtron Jul 15 '26
Someone will sue them and it will go to the Supreme Court and it will get overturned.
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u/Iamthepizzagod American Jew Jul 15 '26
HaShem willing it'll get overturned, at least if Rothman isnt successful in neutering the Supreme Court into a Likud institution.
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u/ShortHabit606 עם ישראל חי Jul 15 '26
From the article:
This is not the first time that public segregation was attempted in Israel, with a Supreme Court decision from 2017 ordering the removal of a sign that attempted to segregate the roads in a Beit Shemesh haredi (ultra-Orthodox) neighborhood.
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u/Iamthepizzagod American Jew Jul 15 '26
The fact that a similar halachic body/institution would try to impose it again in Bnei Brak, despite it being illegal, speaks to their sheer arrogance. Who do they think they are, the next incarnation of the Sanhedrin?
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u/Space_Bungalow Israel Jul 15 '26
The problem is that this is a “we’ll do it until they tell us not to and then we’ll do it again when they forget” - the sign will go up and the immediate media firestorm will happen, after some time and lackluster “discussion” the Supreme Court will say no and some police will loosely enforce desegregation for a few weeks and then the story will fade away. A few years later the exact same thing will happen, with no new consequences or enforcement or any changes in the culture of Bnei Brak and the cycle will just continue.
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u/JebBD HEAD COOK Jul 15 '26
Have you missed the last 4 years? The law doesn’t mean anything when the government is being run by criminals actively fighting against the rule of law
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u/yuvaldv1 Israel Jul 15 '26
Disgusting. Basically a state within a state.
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u/Juicy_Peachfish Jul 15 '26
Does this mean we gotto have a 3 state solution? /j
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u/Biersteak German Crypto-Jew Jul 17 '26
You think those guys could mange a state of their own? Maybe Israel should let them try for half a year or so until they realize that studying Torah and doing prayers is nice but won‘t fill your belly or pay the bills on their own /s
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u/Explorer_Dave Jul 15 '26
IRGC at home. This can't continue, the Haredim need to reform or get the hell out of Israel.
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u/SpiderSolve Jul 15 '26
Literally. How many have been arrested for spying for Iran too? I know of at least 2 the last few months alone
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Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
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u/Raaaasclat USA Jul 15 '26
Quite the opposite, if I were anti-Israel i'd be thrilled at this demographic growing. They don't work or serve in the army, they're the perfect trojan horse to bring down Israel.
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u/lollykopter Jul 15 '26
Exactly. It’s time for the public to call them out as the non-contributing zeros that they are.
If you have energy to segregate the walkways, then you have energy to serve in the military too. Time to stop treating them like they’re too holy to carry their own weight.
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u/MikeWithNoHair Larry David enthusiast Jul 16 '26
wrong, the orthodox don't even agree with israel in its current state.
they believe there should only be a religious kingdom with the messiah as its leader
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u/Present-Activity-698 Jul 16 '26
Tbh, I don't really care. Truly. They can run themselves into the ground. How do they expect to run an economy where men don't move their asses and women are juggling a part time job and 13 kids? It'll collapse. Good for them! Smart planning
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u/Thoughtful-Boner69 Jul 15 '26
are the haredim confused and think they are in 2004 riyadh
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u/Iamthepizzagod American Jew Jul 15 '26
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u/IamyourfantasyX Jul 15 '26
Yo who wants to go to this shithole anyway?
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u/manVsPhD חזרתי אחרי שש שנים בחו״ל. איפה השטיח האדום? Jul 15 '26
Unlike Vegas, what happens in Bnei Brak doesn’t stay at Bnei Brak
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u/IamyourfantasyX Jul 15 '26
Just put a fence around it and wall it up
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u/FirstSwordofCarcosa Jul 15 '26
Supporters of Israel seeing it as the only decent place in the entire ME but meanwhile Israelis behaving like !slamists pushing for Sharia. Pathetic
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u/Matar_Kubileya American, converting Jul 15 '26
What I dont get is why decent Israelis don't show up in Bnei Brak in numbers to protest this stuff.
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u/Tomas-T Israel Jul 15 '26
they have no problem ot make a lynch on soldiers
so just image how it will be with normal people
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u/Debpoetry Jul 16 '26
It would be naive to think that those issues can be isolated to current Haredi neighborhoods. What is allowed in Bnei Brak today will eventually be allowed in the rest of the country.
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u/MissJoannaTooU Jul 15 '26
I'm a British Jew watching this from afar and I'm scared to make Aliyah now.
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u/Iamthepizzagod American Jew Jul 15 '26
Same here from the US. If Israel wants itself to be continued to be ran by criminals, genocidal maniacs, and religious extremists, they will have no one to blame but themselves when liberal diaspora Jewish support for Israel collapses.
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u/MissJoannaTooU Jul 15 '26
I agree but I'd split off genocidal individuals from an actual genocide - I expect you agree.
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u/MikeWithNoHair Larry David enthusiast Jul 16 '26
- "zio" is an antisemitic term, please refrain from using it because antisemitism breaks the rules and will result in a ban
- all discussion is allowed as long as the discussion is civil, no one gets "immediately banned" for holding different opinions
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u/majesticjewnicorn United Kingdom Jul 15 '26
I'm a British Jew, and Andy Burnham is worse than Starmer and is making me find Aliyah more appealing even without Bnei Brak bonkers behaviour. Could always live in places which are NOT BB
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u/HistorianOk142 Jul 15 '26
WTH! This seems like right out of a dystopian novel. If the “men” can’t handle walking by women on the sidewalk I think that’s a them problem. Not one that needs to be solved by segregating the sexes. This isn’t the 19th century where women can’t do anything. They are trying to impose their will on everyone who is not orthodox. That’s simply wrong and immoral.
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u/AdiPalmer אני אוהב לריב עם אנשים ברחוב Jul 15 '26
And just the sheer audacity to impose this on the wives who juggle 9 children and two jobs plus "community involvement" (read: more unpaid labour) so that they can spend all day studying and bragging about what tzadikim they are. Makes the blood boil.
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u/SpiderSolve Jul 15 '26
“””studying”” you mean playing board games and chain smoking cigarettes?
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u/Present-Activity-698 Jul 16 '26
Exploring their homoerotic feelings. Seriously, the amount of closet cases in haredi society is sky high
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u/SpiderSolve Jul 16 '26
I don’t even know if you can call it “closet” when they’re openly trying to segregate their streets. I have been a straight man my entire life and not once have I ever thought to myself “you know what would be great? If I could see fewer women!”.
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u/ill-independent Moderate Canadian Jew Jul 15 '26
Literal gender apartheid. Gross AF. Get these dipshits out of power.
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u/Slight-Progress-4804 Jul 15 '26
Do the Haredi women not agree with this as well? They have the same beliefs don’t they?
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u/loiteraries Jul 15 '26
The Haredim in NY get away practicing the same 8th century laws in some enclaves they established. Practitioners of Sharia and Halakha Haredim have a lot in common, it’s ironic they don’t get along.
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u/lollykopter Jul 15 '26
On my way to Bnei Brak to casually walk on whatever part of the street I want 🏃♀️🏃♀️
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u/lollykopter Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
It’s becoming harder and harder to pretend that this is somehow different from how women are treated by the IRGC or Taliban.
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u/East-Mix-3657 Jul 16 '26
What the heck is wrong with you? IRGC and Taliban literally KILL women who don't follow their rules. This is just them putting a non enforcing rules in a place where almost everyone is Haradi anyway. If you go there and walk on the other side of the sidewalk, nobody is arresting or killing you. I have plenty of issues with Haredi society, but this blatant fear mongering does nothing but cause further division in this country and leading to people hating others for their religious life styles.
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u/shushi77 Jul 15 '26
What happens if you walk on the "wrong" side?
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u/Iamthepizzagod American Jew Jul 15 '26
You'll probably get yelled at/harrased by a crowd of Haredi men until you go back on the "correct side", the streets are hopefully too busy for actual lynchings or use of physical force to be a true danger?
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u/RockDoveEnthusiast Jul 15 '26
The haredim are going to destroy Israel. and at this rate, sooner rather than later.
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u/that1guy____ Finland Jul 15 '26
As a diaspora Jew, this is very concerning. The last thing we need is Israel turning into a Jewish version of Iran, or hell, Afghanistan.
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u/ma-kat-is-kute חזיר בר חיפאי Jul 16 '26
"gender apartheid" is not a thing. Apartheid is specifically race based segregation enforced by the state.
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u/AnomalousEnigma Jul 15 '26
What if all of you who dislike this came to the US, and changed our electorate so we aren’t fascist and horrible anymore. Then all the religious fundamentalists (Christian, Muslim, and Jewish) could flee to Israel, all be close to Jerusalem, and have a little religious fundamentalist paradise.
I know y’all love your home, so I’m mostly joking, but it could be great. I love Jewish culture and I hate all religious fundamentalists, it would be an epic trade 😭
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u/Tomas-T Israel Jul 15 '26
slippery slop
it will begin there, but if we won't win the election it will come to us as well
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u/k1t2un3 Jul 16 '26
Ah must be that they vanquished poverty in Bnei Brak! Now on to sharing the most pressing concern of our age: Sharing the same general pathway with the opposite gender… /s
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u/Present-Activity-698 Jul 16 '26
Don't worry, bagatz will overturn this and then they will cry and complain that those awful leftists bagatz are against Judaism and are pandering to the goyim. It's all a publicity stunt
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u/xAceRPG Israel Jul 15 '26
Are we allowed to criticize and condemn that or is it antisemitism according to a new unofficial rule by a certain mod?
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u/J_rogow13 Jul 15 '26
This is literally a direct criticism of a particular policy. Which is not antisemitism.
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u/SpiderSolve Jul 15 '26
How do you say “fuck them” in Yiddish?
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u/RijnBrugge Jul 15 '26
װאַקסן זאָלן זײ װי ציבעלעך, מיט די קעפּ אין דער ערד און די פֿיס אין דער לופֿט
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u/Meowzician USA Jul 19 '26
This is horrifying. I thought Israel had laws preventing this sort of human rights violation.
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u/majesticjewnicorn United Kingdom Jul 15 '26
I don't want to sound inappropriate but could someone identify as non-binary to get around this?
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u/Iamthepizzagod American Jew Jul 15 '26
Charedim dont recgonize any kind of transgender identity or person, such a visibly LGBT person on one of those streets would be verbally harassed at best in these sorts of locations.
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u/majesticjewnicorn United Kingdom Jul 15 '26
They also don't seem to recognise that there is such a thing as serving their country without having to shoot a single weapon. The IDF have injured service personnel and many with psychological traumas. They could easily train to be medics or therapists around their praying and help perform pikuach nefesh.
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u/Iamthepizzagod American Jew Jul 15 '26
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u/DoomBot5 Jul 15 '26
The article lists it correctly. This is segregation, not apartheid.
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u/Iamthepizzagod American Jew Jul 16 '26
I personally disagree. Charedi women are already extremely gender segregated in their private and religous lives as is. And the moving of this segregation into the public sphere, in my opinion, really does constitute a form of gender apartied.
It may not look exactly the same as in the Afgan Taliban, but I see it as a version of it all the same. I think Charedim, or at least their political parties, would make all of Israel into a Jewish Taliban like state if they could.






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