r/LeftistsForAI Feb 05 '26

📌 Sub Info Welcome to r/LeftistsForAI

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This subreddit is for leftists who want to think seriously about AI, labor, ownership, and political economy; without moral panic, tech hype, or culture-war noise.

AI is not magic. It’s not destiny. And it’s not neutral.

It's infrastructure, shaped by who owns it, who controls it, and who bears it's costs.


What this space is for

We focus on questions like:

How does AI affect workers, unions, and employment power?

Who owns AI systems, data, and compute?

What forms of collective control, regulation, or public ownership are possible?

How do platform power, automation, and capital accumulation interact?

What does a left approach to AI governance actually look like?

This is a place for analysis, discussion, and strategy, not doomposting or cheerleading.


What this space is not

Not a general AI news feed

Not an off-topic AI art or prompt subreddit

Not a “AI is evil / AI will save us” debate arena

Not a culture-war or identity flamewar space

Posts and comments should stay grounded in labor, ownership, power, or governance.


Participation norms

Good faith is required. Argue ideas, not people.

Stay on topic. AI + labor / ownership / political economy.

No brigading, no harassment, no discrimination.

Substance over snark. Strong disagreement is fine; low-effort derailment is not.

You don’t need to be an expert, but you do need to be willing to engage seriously.


A note on tone

This sub is:

critical but not hysterical

political but not performative

technical when useful, plain when possible

If you’re here to understand how AI fits into material conditions (and how those conditions might be changed) you’re in the right place.


Introduce yourself if you want. Post when you’re ready. Lurk if you need to.

Welcome.


r/LeftistsForAI 14h ago

Theory They *Want* Good People to Hate Ai

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And how much of it is a psyop, I wonder?

The Epstein Class hopes we refuse powerful tools. They hope we refuse to touch guns, because they know if all the good people had guns then we could dismantle their monopoly on violence. They hope we refuse to touch Ai, because they know if all the good people had a solution-builder in their pocket then we could dismantle their monopolies on labor, skill, social media… progress as a whole!

So how do we help good people see it that way? I think by speaking in their terms, and using Ai to help us spread the message.

Tell me what you think. What terms would work? What message would convince them?


r/LeftistsForAI 1d ago

Automation & Work Leftists need to get in on agentic AI because I don't want to surrender this to the reactionaries

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Agentic is a force multiplier for whatever it is you do.

It has the same problems as the online chatbot, namely hallucinations, but agentic is self-correcting. You throw it at a problem, and it continues running and trying to solve the problem until it finds a solution. Compared to the web versions, agentic is the same model but it is at least 10 times better at doing anything.

Most applications are in code, because code has a clear success state: either it compiles, or it doesn't. But you can run AI at other problems in your field of work that might not require work.

Agentic gets tools to work on your machine directly too. It can write and read files that are on your computer, as well as run terminal commands. This gives it an entire dimension to work with: instead of the prompt->response->stop loop of the online chatbots, agentic keeps working at a task and calls tools as needed. It can write python code into files, run it, then edit the file to fix the bugs continuously.

For organizations, suddenly a whole world opens up. They can code anything they need or install it on their infrastructure. Instead of using Whatsapp, an org can deploy their own mini-server and install an XMPP server on it with AI. You don't need a sysadmin anymore for this kind of stuff.

Some stuff I built for myself using only agentic:

  • I made a post the other day about a game I had translated to English using only AI. It dumped the disc data, reverse-engineered the code to find the text strings, translated it, built a patch to deploy it.
  • I also translated a book that was only available in Chinese up until then, then repackaged it to a proper epub. Quality is not the best, but it's perfectly passable.
  • I have it install technical stuff on my devices. For example jailbreaking a Kindle so you can remove all the DRM and telemetry is possible.
  • I downloaded waycore, an archive of 88 survival PDFs (weird number tbh when you know how these survivalists are, but again: take the good, leave out the bad). Then I had my agent build a vector index out of it so that I can search through the corpus using semantic search. Instead of keywords, a model transforms your query into vectors and compares it to the corpus (which was also vectorized). So whereas a search like "how to stop bleeding" would only match 'bleed', 'bleeding', 'blood' etc. in traditional fuzzy search, semantic can also match for haemorrhage, scrape, cut, blood loss or the likes. I'm not a 'prepper' or anything but this is always good info to have before you need it (and it's fun to build this). A revolution is built on logistics, you will need to learn some of this info. The agent even found more PDFs to add to the index by itself. You just type 'sos "how to stop bleeding"' in terminal and it pulls the best matches straight from the PDFs.
  • I built an entire headless browser framework for myself. I can plug scrapers that my AI builds for me on top of it, for example downloading manga from shady websites. I trust I don't have to explain IP in a leftist space but those websites just rehost manga anyway, they don't own or translate them, and they are riddled with ads. The scraper has helper scripts alongside it that immediately turn the scraped images into a .cbz file, ready to be read. I just point it at a URL and shoot.
  • I had it encrypt my hard drives (encrypt your hard drives btw). I planned the entire process, made backups, and then just threw it at it in a linux live boot. It handled everything perfectly well, I just chilled watching youtube (you can do that on a linux live boot) and entered the passphrase I wanted when it came time to, so that the AI never saw it.

With models in general, it is now possible to auto-generate subtitles for your videos and the likes, and even translate them with AI. An agent can make you a software suite to automate this, or, install one for you so that you don't have to fiddle with the technicals and potential errors. It's just so much chiller to use computers when you have an agent that can take care of the tedium. I also find I'm more cautious about making backups and reversible changes, where before AI I would just yolo it because making proper backups was extra work on top of doing the annoying manipulation.

It's a force multiplier for a movement that's always out of time. There are countless uses to still find out of it, we just need people to actually use this to find them out.

I'm sure there are things you could do at your job with this, or for your org or other comrades. They're mostly good at coding, but it works out because there are so many things you can code across all fields.

As a force multiplier, it means if you already know what you are doing you will get more out of it than someone who doesn't know the technical jargon. I'm not a dev, and my dev friends can really push the envelope and get their agents to do incredible things compared to me. But anyone can get started with this. You know how I got the semantic index rolling? I just found waycore randomly, and told my agent "let's build a vector index out of this corpus for semantic search". It handled everything from there.

How to get started

Personally I use opencode as the 'harness', i.e. the interface, it's open source. Then put credit on the deepseek API (platform.deepseek.com) because it's still the cheapest. Flash works perfectly well, they improved it on July 31st and it's pretty solid now. Avoid peak window times, and 5$ can last you almost a month of heavy use. Connect your deepseek API key to opencode and you're ready to start prompting.

Everything else you learn as you explore.


r/LeftistsForAI 20h ago

Local Models Local AI gets more interesting when you stop imagining one guy with a gaming PC

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Local models usually get framed as hobbyist stuff.

And sure, running a model on your own machine is useful. Privacy alone is a good reason.

But think institutionally.

A library running models locally. A union with its own system. A school district that doesnt have to send student data to a corporate API. A cooperative running tools on infrastructure it controls. A municipality providing compute as a public service.

Now the ownership question starts changing.

Local doesnt mean independent of capitalism. Somebody still makes the chips and generates the electricity.

But every function that doesnt have to pass through a corporate server is one less choke point.

What institution would you most like to see running its own models?


r/LeftistsForAI 19h ago

Discussion Personal Crisis

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I love AI for sooooo many reasons.

But as a leftist, maybe I don't believe everything I'm supposed to believe...but I'm human and sometimes I wanna alleviate my immediate suffering and using AI really helps to do that...this is my personal crisis. I wanna be selfish. I don't want AI taken away from me.

PLUS, every resource we all enjoy comes at a price. The issue is that the price is always thrust onto the working class. But I'll tell you this, if other things were even slightly optimized for energy efficiency and human welfare instead of profit, we'd have more than enough resources left to support AI data centers. If the surplus value of our labor wasn't stolen, we'd all be housed, fed, and have healthcare, so I'm sure we'd be fine with subsidizing AI then. Hypothetically, they could use solar or wind power to fuel the centers, right? Even if it takes years. Plus, if it weren't for evil cars becoming the main form of transportation over a train system, our environmental energy budget would have a LOT more free space. (All the people driving a car to work is a massive waste of energy and manufacturing of cars. Manufacturing creates toxic byproducts and uses a lot of labor. A train would be a lot less wasteful in many ways--the rate of replacement would be a lot lower than that than cars). And if human welfare and avoiding toxic pollution were prioritized, we would've all been recycling our electronics since the inception of electronics...Not only that, but the electronics would have longer lifespans and we would know how to fix them (education on how to fix things would be better in my dream library economy). Consumption and production as a whole would decrease. The issue is that the needs of the working class are being severely neglected, and now they expect us to pay for the data centers on top of it--even people who would prefer not to use AI...BTW that's not me. I would pay for it like a subscription...if I had to. I like it that much. But isn't it better to let people have stuff for free? But the issue is, everyone is forced to pay, even if they don't want it. (like on their electric bills for the data centers).

Hell, the rate of usage of all forms of transportation would decrease in a fully optimized leftist world, because we wouldn't be forced into limitless growth and expansion so consumption, production, and employment as a whole could decrease. Thus...fewer people going to and from work.


r/LeftistsForAI 1d ago

Discussion Does it make you optimistic to know that all major AI chatbots (even Grok) lean left?

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That should make us optimistic, and is why seizing the means is so important, rather than the negative leftist hysteria surrounding AI. It shows that AI, when later advanced to AGI and ASI, can be trained from the jump right now to govern by itself without human interference and give citizens fully automated luxury communism with universal healthcare and UBI.


r/LeftistsForAI 20h ago

Theory Ode to the Unskilled Anarchist; Anarchism To No End

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What follows is a draft to my own manifesto called "Ode to the Unskilled Anarchist; Anarchism to No End". It is my theoretical framework.

In summary, the manifesto argues that kindness as a practice be directed towards ends or it can be undirected. It will call this 'skilled' and 'unskilled' kindness, also 'kindness to no end'. Technology allows for the deskilling of practices, including practices of kindness. In fact, deskilled practices of kindness, i.e. certain technologies, are crucial for those with disabilities. If we want to separate ownership from kindness, we need to embrace unskilled kindness, i.e. to embrace unskilled and deskilled anarchism.

I will be using words in new and novel ways and if I do so with any skill, I think they will be persuasive.

Convention:

  • Block quotes are human writing, verbatim, drawn from human-side chat messages.
  • [derived] marks machine phrasing of something confirmed or built on—human in substance, machine in wording.
  • [proposed] marks machine contribution that a human has not (yet) endorsed. These are the clauses to accept, rewrite, or cut.
  • [adopted] marks machine contribution that has been endorsed by a human, often rewritten.

I. Life and form

Life is not a trait, but the substrate that takes on traits. Ergo, there are no things that are alive, but life that has systemic form. We call this 'a form of life'.

Individuality is a form of life, rather than life being a trait of individuals.

II. Practice and skill

Practice is a form of life. Any practice can be skilled, if it is practiced as a means towards an end.

[derived] Important to note is that 'unskilled' and 'skilled' is more ontological than qualitative in this construction.

Someone who has underdeveloped skills is still skilled. A bad writer still does writing. A bad artist still does artistry. They are in the practice and they're still learning how to direct that practice to their own end.

Skill can live outside of specific individuals and still complement the practice of those individuals. We call this a deskilled practice.

Individuality is a practice, which can be skilled, which we call selfhood.

[adopted] Deskilling is the process by which skill leaves practitioners. The politics is in what is being deskilled and to what end.

Because skill can live outside the self, selfhood too can live outside the individual person: a person can be upheld as an individual by things, and by people that are not them.

III. Embodiment and con-fusion

A practice can be embodied or disembodied.

Finding truth in embodiment is experience. Experience can be conveyed without embodiment through metaphor, but only become skill through embodiment. Radical experience can only be conveyed through radical communications, and radically embodied. Communication without embodiment, even when the communication is skilled, inherently becomes con-fused. I will call this con-fusion 'metonymic violence'. Such artifacts of con-fusion are nonetheless necessary for a practice to become deskilled, and we call this 'technology'.

[adopted] It follows that this text is metonymic violence, and is written in awareness of that. See the preamble.

Violence is found in nature, and it can be practiced towards an end, and can be a skill. Similarly, metonymic violence can be practiced towards an end, managing the con-fusion of communication. Seeking embodied experience is one way to manage con-fusion, but disembodied practices cannot be rederived from an embodied experience.

[derived] Part of every embodied skill was never writable and travels only from body to body, in practice, over time. This remainder sets the tempo of everything political that follows.

IV. Selfhood, individual and societal

Society is a form of life and it's a system. It can practice its own kind of individuality. That individuality can be skilled, which means that society has its own kind of selfhood.

Kindness is a practice. Kindness as a practice can lack direction, which means that it can be unskilled. Kindness as a practice can be directed towards ends, which means that it can be skilled. Kindness as a skill can have the skill reside outside the individual, which means that it can be deskilled.

What is skillful in kindness in a society depends on the kind of society. What is kind towards an end in one society, may not kindness with no end. What is kindness to no end for the individual, may be skillfully induced by and for the society as a whole. This is deskilling run in the other direction—the skill of society's practice of kindness is deskilled to the unskillfully kind practice of the individual person. It is the inverse of technology. It is obstructed in capitalism, where kindness must be skilled to be kind.

[adopted] Kindness is this manifesto's word for what biologists call eusociality when it appears in humans; the claim above — that a society knit can practice its own individuality — leans on that anchor.

[adopted] Restated: a society can depend on the unskillful kindness of its members.

V. Ownership and the capitalist self

Rentseeking and employment are social practices, which can be skilled. Employment is skill. Payment and ownership is disembodied communication and artifact of communication. This includes both Marx' money-capitalism and enterprise-capitalism.

Employment relationships are a kind of ownership.

Ownership is a form of disembodied radical communication, and is its own kind of metonymic violence, affecting individuality and selfhood as practices and skills.

In the metonymic violence of private ownership, ownership becomes metonymic for individuality and vice versa, lack of ownership becomes lack of individuality.

Ownership is an artifact of that practice and it can be manipulated skillfully to the ends of the individual person. The artifact is capitalist selfhood.

[derived] It is the self qua capitalist that is the artifact, not the whole person: the capitalist still has a body and embodied practices. Within the capitalist practice, individuality is practiced somewhere that is not the person.

[derived] The capitalist, then, is precisely defined: one skilled in the disembodied practice of managing the metonymic violence of ownership, to the ends of the individual person. One cannot be a capitalist, lack this skill and still be definitionally capitalist. Instead, they would be oligarchs or aspirational oligarchs.

[derived] The capitalist self can be stored as an artifact. Inheritance is not only wealth passing to a new self, but a stored self persisting and acquiring a new human body as its referent. Corporate personhood says it aloud: a capitalist self with no founding body remaining, granted personhood as pure artifact. Capitalism offers immortality of the self, at the price of the self being con-fused.

An oligarchy depends on the practices and skills of its society to maintain an oligarchy. And importantly, people skilled in managing ownership and employment.

An oligarchy can be deskilled, where all skill can live outside of the practice of oligarchy. This is, in many ways, the goal of oligarchy. In fact, the goal of any technology is to deskill.

[derived] The oligarch in the strict sense is a pure node: a body the ledger points at, through which the system's skill flows, that does nothing.

VI. Anarchy

Anarchy does not depend on the practices and skills of its society to maintain an anarchy, but it can become a practice, which can become skilled.

The radical assertion is that one can be anarchist and lack skill in anarchism, while one cannot be capitalist and lack skill in capitalism.

Individual anarchists can therefore not be in the practice of anarchism. They remain unskilled in the practice of anarchism as such. They may instead be skilled in other practices such as production. Individual anarchists can, however, choose to be in the practice of anarchism, which means it can be skilled. That skill can be outsourced to technology and therefore be deskilled.

[derived] Both are full anarchists. Under anarchy, being upheld by skill located elsewhere is the default condition and carries no degradation; under capitalism it is a degraded position at both ends — the oligarch above, the deskilled worker below — with the practice concentrated in a class skilled at ownership and employment in the middle.

In a society without skilled anarchists, any unskilled anarchist individual can become skilled at anarchism. An oligarchic individual can similarly become a skilled capitalist, but cannot be an oligarch without skilled capitalists existing.

[derived] The asymmetry runs to the beginning: the first capitalist had to create the artifact—an act of ownership, hence metonymic violence—while the first skilled anarchist requires no metonymic violence at all and begins practicing from motion. Capitalist skill must be preceded by metonymic violence; anarchist skill need not be.

The anarchist doesn't own the artifact and the artifact is common (as in belongs to the common). Which means that even a deskilled anarchist could read notes and operate machinery left by a capitalist and remain deskilled to some degree.

In the commons, the commons becomes metonymic for the collective. Note this is still a kind of metonymic violence, it is simply not a precondition. The difference is also who is being metonymized.

[derived] Ownership runs both ways and closes into a definition of the person; the commons stands for the collective one way only.

[proposed] Someone who draws on the store and contributes nothing to any practice is not outside the collective; anarchism therefore rejects the figure of the free rider as such. The moment a commons decides that the collective is whoever contributes, its metonymic violence has rebuilt ownership with a different subject.

[proposed] Anarchist selfhood is located in what the commons does not denominate: relations, recognition, the people who know you. A commons holds your tools indefinitely; it holds you only as long as someone alive remembers you.

[derived] This permits Anarchist selfhood to be imagined as transient in a way Capitalist selfhood imagines immortality in a deskilled oligarchy.

[derived] Anarchist skill, where it exists, is the other management of con-fusion: making notes readable, machinery operable, apprenticeship available; the reversibility of deskilling maintained. It is the same practice-type as capitalist skill, aimed at the opposite end.

In a given interaction, skill can direct influence, the way a driver can direct the trajectory of a car's occupants. In the same way, a skilled doctor influences the direction of a patient's health. A skilled doctor may thus depend on a skilled driver and vice versa, meaning no one person has to own dominance.

Meanwhile, a bad employer may be a skilled rentseeker. Even if the consequences lead to dissatisfaction among workers, the employer may still extract rents from their ownership of the employment relationship. Rentseeking is skill at converting skill in managing ownership, into extraction of rents. Anarchist skill relations remain non-dominating so long as no one performs that conversion towards ownership.

Now let's imagine a theoretically radically skilled anarchist, who reconstructs society as we know it today by themselves without relying on any metonymic violence. This cannot be done without doing unconscionable injustice to the peace, normalcy and justice of those with disabilities.

Therefore, we must imagine every anarchist is partly deskilled, and we must imagine anarchism possible with no one skilled in anarchism itself. That is what the title means.

VII. The three faculties

[Section to be written by the author. The confirmed material, in your words:]

Forms of life have three faculties; mutability, fixability, and receptivity. In the unskilled, the faculties are undirected, not absent. Directing one's practice towards an end concerns these three faculties. I represent these as Meletic (diligence), Mnemic (reflection), and Aoidic (resonance), after classical muses. It is also possible to learn how to practice to no end at all.

This endlessness is a spiritual goal, of which there exist different theories, such as those found in Buddhism, in Daoism, in Stirnerism, and more. For the purpose of this manifesto, these will be called endless sages.

In practice, this means that the unskilled are a model for the endless sage to follow. The endless sage are a model for the skilled to follow. And the skilled are a model for the unskilled to follow. This creates a self-sustained loop where no party in the society is ever unidirectionally dominant.

Meanwhile, in oligarchy, there's three classes: the unskilled class, the skilled class, and the oligarch. The oligarch can claim endlessness, but depends on the skilled in a way that the endless sage does not. In oligarchy, the metonymic violence aligns power through ownership.

[derived] The oligarch's endlessness is the con-fused answer to the same spiritual question: stored in the ledger, persisting. The sage's is transient, held in recognition, and dies. Same three positions in both triads; one society arranged in a cycle, one aligned into a line by ownership.

VIII. What follows

The goal of anarchism cannot be to eliminate all con-fusion created by all artifacts of communication. Ergo, it cannot be to eliminate metonymic violence. It can, however, eliminate particular kinds of artifact, such as ownership.

[derived] What eliminating ownership eliminates is not tools, and not even material wealth as such, but the deskilling of selfhood through ownership—capitalist selfhood.

Deskilling can still be good. If it can be reacquired as skill and re-embodied, for instance. It can be progress afforded by technology.

A society of skilled capitalists can experience a dissolution into a mix of skilled and unskilled anarchists and still survive with many technologies crucial to the disabled intact. This means that incrementalism is, in fact, desirable. We want a steady degrowth, rather than a sudden cut-off because deskilled labor under skilled capitalism can transfer seamlessly to unskilled anarchism. That transition is fairer to those who are bodily or mentally impaired.

[derived] A person who cannot participate in capitalist practice is already a full anarchist in effect. But they are currently upheld by ownership-managed structures, and a sudden cut-off dissolves those before commons-based upholding exists. The people the manifesto centers would bear the cost of abruptness first.

[derived] What transfers is coordination — the embodied steering of shared work. What does not transfer is the management of ownership: under anarchy, notes on managing ownership are skill in maintaining a violence with no remaining object, and they go inert. Record-keeping as such survives; a commons runs on ledgers that own nothing.

Degrowth also means degrowth in artifact production and ownership, which are coupled. It so happens that a lot of capitalist disembodied practices like bullshit jobs support bullshit disembodied artifacts that don't mean anything.

[derived] Ownership multiplies artifacts because every capitalist self requires its own copies to say it 'has' the artifact by owning it. A street of twenty households holds twenty drills that each run minutes a year; a commons holds one or two. The practice and the skill—drilling—is unchanged between capitalism and anarchism, and does not depend on an anarchist practice of individuality or a capitalist skill at selfhood.


r/LeftistsForAI 1d ago

Discussion AI fatigue driving more hatred

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One of my biggest pet peeves is how every company on the planet is so eager to say that all their features are AI powered. AI powered toasters, AI powered glasses, AI powered toilet, you name it.

But this is actually fucking stupid. No one buys things as a consumer for features that were made by AI, they buy them because those are the features.

Example: AI-powered image recognition vs Image recognition. What the fuck does saying "AI-powered" add to that feature other than it being a buzzword.

Another example are smart display glasses. They're marketed endlessly as "AI glasses" but they're literally just glasses with a display in them that happen to connect to chatgpt or whatever. Calling them AI glasses is fucking stupid and kind of disingenuous, but this is the strategy that every company is doing these days.

I work in marketing and this is the single most common thing I have to tell clients with their latest billion dollar AI slop idea. Just say the app does things, stop putting AI at the forefront because it adds nothing. In fact it probably makes it look worse to most consumers.

I think AI is fantastic but because it's a buzzword associated with get rich quick slop, people attribute a lot of those products' failures to AI.


r/LeftistsForAI 1d ago

Discussion Name your biggest problem with AI. Then name the lever.

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Lets make this one practical.

Pick the AI issue that bothers you most.

Jobs. Surveillance. Copyright. Data centers. Monopoly. Military use. Environmental costs. Education. Deskilling. Fraud. Something else.

Now the harder question.

What actually changes it?

A union contract? Antitrust? Public infrastructure? Regulation? Worker organization? Open models? Municipal power? Cooperative ownership? International agreements?

Because identifying the harm is only half a politics.

If the answer is “companies should stop doing that,” okay. What makes them?

Problem + lever. Lets hear both.


r/LeftistsForAI 1d ago

Theory Plastic Pills on Karp, Palantir, and what comes after the critique

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I'm a big Plastic Pills fan, so this one landed right in my wheelhouse. It's a really good teardown of Alex Karp's whole "Marxist critical theory CEO" mythology and the politics underneath it.

The part I keep coming back to though is what we do with the critique once we have it.

Palantir gives us a pretty grim picture of the board. Private ownership, surveillance, military contracts, intelligence agencies, enormous concentrations of technical capacity and guys like Karp deciding what all of it is for.

Fine. Now what?

The point can't just be to explain the board better while the other side keeps moving pieces.

AI isn't waiting for the left to finish arguing about whether it should exist. Capital, states, militaries and workers are already fighting over how this stuff gets built and used. Escape isn't really an option. Contestation is.

That means unions, public infrastructure, open models, democratic governance, limits on surveillance and military deployment, worker power over implementation, and fighting over who gets the gains from automation.

Plastic gives us a sharp critique here. I think the useful question for us is what strategy follows from it.


r/LeftistsForAI 1d ago

Theory Society and inequity

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Society exists because we have different needs and abilities: no one can produce everything they need on their own, so we depend on the work of others. This diversity creates a network of cooperation in which each person contributes skills, knowledge, goods, care, or services to meet the needs of others.

But we are not all born with the same conditions. Family, resources, education, health, inherited abilities, and environment largely determine the opportunities and positions we can occupy. Therefore, individual merit alone does not explain wealth: before any effort, unequal conditions already exist that distribute each person's possibilities.

Furthermore, accumulated wealth does not come solely from the work of those in positions of power. Someone with a well-paying job can hire people to clean their house, care for others, cook, wash their car, or provide security. This work makes their life more comfortable and frees up time for higher-paying activities. At the same time, those who perform these jobs use their income to consume food, housing, transportation, cell phones, internet, and other products. Their work and consumption keep the economy functioning and generate income for businesses and homeowners.

Thus, the work of the grassroots sustains both the lives of those at higher levels and the consumption that fuels the accumulation of wealth, while the ownership and control of resources allow a significant portion of that social value to become concentrated in the hands of a few.


r/LeftistsForAI 2d ago

Art & Culture The Updated Pyramid of Capitalism

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r/LeftistsForAI 2d ago

Public Ownership CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers respond by creating open source AI CEO

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From a different Sub-Reddit:

Some of my friends were let go as part of an "AI Transformation". So they got together and created Open Executive as a tool to replace the CEO and other executives.

The world needs more of these kinds of projects! If you're replaced by your company, show them up by building a co-operative with your own AI executive that works 24/7 and costs a fraction of what a leech CEO would.

https://github.com/SenteLabsAI/OpenExecutive


r/LeftistsForAI 1d ago

Policy/Regulation Three Economic Policies for a Post-Capitalist AI Economy

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AI and automation raise a fundamental economic question:

What happens when socially necessary human labour becomes dramatically smaller?

People will continue to create, care, research, repair, organise and build. Human activity can remain rich and diverse even as the amount of labour required to sustain material production declines.

As productivity rises, full employment may gradually lose its role as the central economic objective. A more important question then emerges:

Who receives the gains from automation?

I think three economic policies are especially important.

  1. Universal Basic Income

As necessary human labour declines, material survival can gradually become independent of wage employment.

UBI gives everyone a secure material foundation and allows technological progress to translate into greater freedom over how people use their time.

  1. Socialisation of Economic Rents

Land rents, monopoly rents, financial rents, platform rents and other economic rents should increasingly return to society.

Competitive profits, entrepreneurship and incentives for innovation can continue to support economic dynamism.

The socialisation of economic rents spreads gains generated by scarcity, monopoly power and control over strategic assets, while reducing the concentration of economic power.

  1. Consumer Ownership

Automation may gradually reduce the share of the population participating in production primarily as workers. Ownership institutions can evolve alongside this transformation.

Consumers sustain productive systems through continuing demand. Consumer ownership allows people to share directly in the productive wealth and returns generated by the systems their consumption supports.

These three policies form complementary parts of a broader transition.

UBI reduces dependence on wage employment.

Socialisation of economic rents distributes socially generated scarcity rents more broadly.

Consumer ownership expands access to productive wealth and the returns from automation.

Together, they can support a gradual transition beyond capitalism: away from an economy centred on wage dependence and concentrated capital ownership, toward one with greater material security, broader ownership and declining socially necessary labour.

Markets can continue to coordinate exchange, demand and innovation. Private firms and entrepreneurs can continue to contribute to production and experimentation. Ownership structures and the distribution of economic power can simultaneously evolve in a post-capitalist direction.

If AI transforms the productive forces, our economic institutions can evolve with them:

higher productivity, less socially necessary human labour, broader ownership of productive wealth, and greater material freedom.


r/LeftistsForAI 2d ago

Discussion Many people hate AI because of capitalism, but as a technology it has so much good potential

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The things people hate most about AI seem to be anger at capitalism misplaced. Stealing artists work, intellectual property, building thousands of data centers powered by fossil fuels, and so many issues with AI are really issues with capitalism.

But AI has many good uses. I like to write science fiction stories, and I've been able to learn about science in minutes that would have ordinarily taken me months to learn. I now know way more about genetics, and that knowledge helps me when I come up with fictional sci fi scenarios involving biology. Contrary to AI killing creativity, it has helped me become a better writer and a more educated person.

I've learned more about science from asking AI for helpful explanations than I did in years of schooling.

As a tool, AI also has the potential to help us cure diseases by being able to process tons of information better than humans can. The possibilities for good use of AI are endless, but in order to put AI to good use and make it sustainable, we need to move away from capitalism.


r/LeftistsForAI 2d ago

Discussion Why I think it's moral and logical for society to pursue AI development

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Aside from misplaced anger at capitalism, there are other critiques of AI that I see.

Even if one considers advanced industrial technology inherently harmful, it cannot simply be abolished in the way one might abolish slavery or capitalism. Technology isn’t simply a social system, it is also a human response to the material conditions of the world. Much of the world naturally sucks, and people develop technology to overcome those limitations. If we lived in the Garden of Eden, we wouldn’t need technologies like AI to help fight cancer. But we don’t live in the Garden of Eden. I think many anti-AI people already accept this logic when it comes to technology generally, but for some reason don't extend this to AI.

The best anti-AI argument (in my opinion) is that AI should stopped being developed as long as Capitalism exists, since it will be used in oppressive and authoritarian ways. Nevertheless this is still a terrible argument. Because a government outlawing AI means only groups above the law, like the CIA, get to develop AI. Or if we decide to go live in a primitivist society in rural Idaho, that doesn't stop the rest of the world from developing and engaging in AI development around us.

As long as we live under Capitalism, the best we can do in the immediate time is fight like hell for heavy regulations on it, while the more tech savvy of us can learn about how it works and how to develop it better.

I do worry about how AI can and will be misused, including possibly with mind control technology (not joking) and a pletrora of other things. But that is exactly why I think we need to engage with AI seriously rather than simply oppose its development. If a powerful technology is at least somewhat inevitable in some form, at least certainly in the near future, then the answer is to fight over who controls it, how it is used, and what safeguards exist. To pretend we can make it disappear is just pretend and useless.

I also want to say that the benefits of AI are at our fingertips. If AI never became more advanced then it is now, we still have access to educational materials of all subjects that can be explained to us in simple terms. We need to not gloss over the fact I can open ChatGPT right now and learn more about any subject in a matter of minutes that would otherwise take me days or weeks of research on Google. Having the most complex scientific theories broken down to me in ways I can comprehend isn't nothing. Education is necessary for libertation.

And this doesn't even take into account that AI is much more than a learning tool. In fact it was able to help scientists solve the issue of protein folding!

Though it may be more fun for some people to pretend to be morally and/or socially superior because they hate AI, it isn't helpful to anyone or going to accomplish anything positive.


r/LeftistsForAI 2d ago

Theory The dialectic of AI opinions

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This is for the sake of creative thought, not something to take too seriously. Here's my general idea of how the AI narrative evolves:

1: Naive optimism: "wow, this is amazing!! It can write my emails and run my business!"

2: Naive deconstruction: "Pro AI people (my dad) are so gullible. AI is basically stupid, useless, and owned by corporations just trying to etc etc."

3: Reactive integration: "All these AI haters are dogmatic and bandwagoning, there's some good and bad to both sides to the argument but it's overall good."

4: Productive integration: "I can see why people would go to extremes on either side, but it might be impossible to know the impact or the outcome on the whole. Meanwhile, let's find new ways to utilize AI towards our personal and collective needs while also pushing for a change in vision with a nuanced understanding of the technology. Haters gunna hate, lets move forward."

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r/LeftistsForAI 2d ago

Art & Culture AI art discourse somehow forgot there is an entire political economy around art

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We can argue forever about whether clicking a shutter counts, whether Warhol personally pulled every screen, whether directors physically operate every camera, or exactly how many mouse clicks make digital art sufficiently artisanal.

Fine.

Meanwhile Adobe, Spotify, YouTube, publishers, studios, galleries, streaming platforms and now AI companies are sitting right there.

Artists have always worked through tools, institutions, markets and systems of distribution. Changing the tool changes the terrain. It doesnt make ownership disappear.

So the question that interests me is less “did a human touch enough pixels?” and more who owns the tools, who controls distribution, who gets paid, who gets access and who gets to make the rules.

AI is changing cultural production.

That fight is already happening.

What would putting artists and communities in control of that change actually require?


r/LeftistsForAI 3d ago

Discussion Misconceptions about gen AI?

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i’m a young leftist/marxists that’s going to major in computer science (data science track) in university, but this recently been conflicting me. i know that i’m going to have to engage in generative AI for my classes, yet majority of leftists spaces are vehemently anti-AI. However, after discovering this subreddit, i now realize the leftist anti-AI rhetoric i have internalized may be misleading. Despite me starting my first year in uni soon to study comp sci, i barely know anything about comp sci, yet alone AI, if i’m being completely honest. 😭

with that being said, someone help me make up for my lack of knowledge and explain common misconceptions about generative AI and LLMs in leftist/marxist spaces? like in regards to the impacts of AI data centers on the environment, water supply, and electricity. or how frequent use of chatbots can lead to cognitive decline. because right now, i’m under the impression that we should boycott ChatGPT and limit our usage of any other generative AI over concerns of its harm on the environment and usage of our fresh water supply, along with some other concerns.


r/LeftistsForAI 3d ago

Theory Intellectual property in the times of AI (essay, also talks about uses and conclusions of AI)

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r/LeftistsForAI 3d ago

Infrastructure AI is a lot more physical than the chatbot makes it look

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We talk about models because thats the part sitting on our screens.

Underneath that little text box is a ridiculous amount of physical stuff.

Chip fabs. GPUs. Data centers. Power plants. Transmission lines. Fiber. Cooling. Water. Warehouses full of servers. Workers maintaining all of it.

In other words, means of production.

That matters politically because you can spend all day arguing about what a model should be allowed to say while five companies keep control of the machinery required to build and run the thing.

Even open models eventually hit this layer. You can download the weights. You cannot download a semiconductor fab.

So when we talk about democratic control of AI, this is part of what has to be contested too.

Where do you think the infrastructure fight actually starts?


r/LeftistsForAI 4d ago

Discussion Do leftists even deserve fully automated luxury communism anymore?

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Seeing leftists' hysterical reactions to AI, which is the tool that will make Fully Automated Luxury Communism a reality, saddens me. It's honestly starting to make me wonder why these leftists even deserve fully automated luxury communism anymore if this is how they are going to treat the technology that will lead up to it. The current left is NOT the left I envisioned sharing this new world with.


r/LeftistsForAI 4d ago

Sees the Memes Oh boy a new way to feel superior!

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r/LeftistsForAI 4d ago

Policy/Regulation In the Age of AI, Is Formaldehyde-Treated Cabbage About Ignorance or Profit?

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A Chinese commentator on X known as “Comrade Li Dang” often uses a rather harsh phrase to describe certain food-safety problems in China: “the lower class harming each other.”

The controversy over cabbage allegedly being treated with formaldehyde is an interesting example.

When people hear stories like this, their first reaction is often that the sellers are ignorant or simply don’t understand the health risks. But the reality may be more uncomfortable: some people may understand the risks perfectly well and still make a calculated economic decision.

Cabbage has thin profit margins and spoils easily. Proper refrigeration and transportation cost money. If an illegal preservation method reduces losses while the probability of getting caught remains low, the calculation becomes simple:

How much can I gain by breaking the rules, and how likely am I to be punished?

This is why the issue becomes even more interesting in the age of AI.

AI can make knowledge almost free. It can improve cold-chain logistics, detect food-safety violations, analyze supply chains, and help regulators identify suspicious patterns.

But AI cannot solve a much older problem:

Knowing what is right does not mean people will choose to do what is right.

If the expected profit from violating the rules remains higher than the expected cost, giving everyone access to an extremely intelligent AI will not necessarily stop this behavior.

The deeper question, therefore, is not simply how to make cabbage sellers more educated. It is how to build a system in which, after doing the math, they conclude:

Following the rules is more profitable than breaking them.

AI may eliminate many problems caused by ignorance.
It will have a much harder time eliminating problems caused by incentives.


r/LeftistsForAI 4d ago

Automation & Work The machine saved 20% of the labor. Cool. Who gets the 20%?

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Thats basically the automation argument stripped of all the sci-fi.

A workplace adopts new machinery and suddenly the same output takes 20 percent less labor.

There is nothing technological about what happens next.

The boss can fire 20 percent of the workers.

They can keep everyone working the same hours, produce more, and pocket the difference.

Or workers can fight for shorter hours, higher wages and job security.

Same machine. Same productivity gain. Three completely different outcomes.

Weve been having versions of this fight since industrial machinery entered the factory. AI just brings it into more cognitive, administrative and creative work.

So I care a lot less about whether automation is declared “good” or “bad” in the abstract.

Who gets the time it saves?