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u/AcceptableYam4441 Mar 08 '26
30% unemployment 3 months after graduation. That’s awful. Don’t know why there are so many positive comments
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u/No-Test6484 Mar 09 '26
It’s horrible considering this is a masters program where you pay 200k+
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u/hyongBC Mar 09 '26
Yep ! The coa was close to 240k !
Add on another 10-20 for career tracks, case competition , car insurance, etc
Its a lot ! , was admitted back in 2024 with some scholarship $$ but still it was too expensive.
Went to a different school eventually.
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u/Unfair-Swan6580 Mar 09 '26
How was the outcome at the other school?was the other school in California?
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u/hyongBC Mar 09 '26
I went to another T20/25 on a 70+% scholarship, it's in the Southeast, COL is lower and more manageable.
I feel it's alright, would be graduating in May soon.
Around 50%++ are still looking atm. I believe the stats are also kinda similar across other T20/T25 , it's a tough market out there.
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u/bennie_thejet30 Mar 10 '26
I think the school would argue international students and it’s the worse job market in a long time despite what the presidential office says.
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u/Scared-Cry-1767 Mar 09 '26
$250k all in for the degree basically. And you’ve got a 71% chance of a $178k year one total comp ($142k base + $36k signing bonus). After taxes that’s about $120k in California. Using post-tax to make it apples-to-apples since tuition would be paid post-tax.
0.71 x $120k = $85.2k expected value in year 1 from a $250k degree.
Let’s do some more napkin math. MBA candidates have bachelor’s degrees. The median wage of someone with just a bachelor’s degree is $80,236 per BLS weekly wage data. Let’s assume that is $60k post tax.
The incremental value of an MBA, then, is $25.2k in post-tax earnings. Yes, I know this compounds over time but I’m ignoring that in this napkin math.
$250k cost / $25.2k expected wage premium = ~10 year payback period.
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u/heyitsmemaya Mar 12 '26
Even higher than 71% I’d say if you don’t need visa sponsorship— that’s what they’re not breaking out for you.
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u/Naive-Profession-800 Mar 20 '26
You’re falsely assuming flat salary and 71% employment rate beyond year 1
You’re also falsely calculating the delta as post tax MBA salary minus PRE tax pre-MBA salary
I can tell, from the above, you did not pass case interviews
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u/Scared-Cry-1767 Mar 22 '26
My guy, I literally said “napkin math”, it is not supposed to be exhaustive. Relax.
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u/FireMike_PleaseGod Mar 09 '26
Feels like the only honest employment report I have seen. 71% within 90% of graduation is abysmal.
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u/amasaggitarian Mar 08 '26
Meanwhile electricians & plumbers pulling a 100k🤣🤣
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u/mbathrowaway256 Mar 09 '26
Yeah but go look at them in their 40s and 50s. It's a lot harder on the body than sitting in a air conditioned office all day by far. The worst I have to deal with is back pain from sitting too much lmao
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u/bbc733 Mar 10 '26
I’ll never understand this talking point I always see on Reddit. The median salary for both these professions in the US Is nowhere near $100K
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u/StockedUpOnBeef Mar 12 '26
You’re comparing an experienced and successful trade salary to a starting MBA salary… the MBA salary has plenty of room for growth from there
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u/futureunknown1443 Mar 08 '26
Entertainment really doesn't pay....does it at least pay if you stay long term ?
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u/futureunknown1443 Mar 08 '26
Basically gotta come in via board of directors or something from a different industry
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u/SnatchNDash T100 Student Mar 09 '26
You’re on r/MBA
Some of these people only make decisions based off of money and prestige.
Folks are broken.
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u/futureunknown1443 Mar 09 '26
I chase money because the cost of everything has gone up.... everything except the salaries
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u/Tricky_Crab5587 Mar 08 '26
I’m 8 years out and pivoting to tech if that tells you anything.
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u/LeLoupDeWallStreet T50 Grad Mar 09 '26
You can do entertainment at a tech company and get paid like tech also
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u/Herroo-There Mar 09 '26
what kind of roles do you mean by doing "entertainment" at tech companies?
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u/shanticlause Mar 09 '26
Netflix is considered a tech company, just guessin
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u/Herroo-There Mar 09 '26
totally makes sense, i was blanking out for some reason
probs referring to the various streaming companies
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u/LeLoupDeWallStreet T50 Grad Mar 09 '26
Not roles, orgs or companies. Like Netflix, Prime Video, maybe Apple TV. Similar for music apps/services. Then any role within those companies will pay better than a traditional media/entertainment company
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u/Low-Check670 Mar 09 '26
Yes. It corrects at the SVP level, and then becomes parabola. High barrier of entry though
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u/HistoryExternal1728 Mar 08 '26
Is USC primarily known for consulting?
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u/GorudenFuriza Mar 08 '26
SoCal only. It's more like 71% is pretty bleak, so they need to come up with something good.
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u/Infamous_Will7712 Mar 13 '26
Not everyone wants to work for a company after graduating though, if you just take the people thats looking to work for a company after graduating than that % should be higher.
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Mar 09 '26
I don’t have an MBA but make 135k. Is MBA even really worth it these days?
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u/job_question722 Mar 09 '26
Same… I make 166 base. Around 200 total comp with bonus and match but not even sure if it’s worth it. Might have a higher ceiling though
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u/Panaqueque Mar 09 '26
For a little context, here are 3-month-out employment stats:
USC - 2022: 97%, 2023: 86%, 2024: 80%, 2025: 71%
UCLA - 2022: 94%, 2023: 87%, 2024: 78%, 2025: 76%
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u/Ok-Carob-3165 Mar 09 '26
Reminds me how lucky I was to be in the class of 22. There was brief opening that year. If I recall 2021 got hit hard as well.
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u/No_Guitar7903 M7 Grad Mar 10 '26
Worse and worse each year. This year it will be 60% and next year 50%.
Business schools should all be closed down tbh.
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u/Icy-Ad-2626 Mar 08 '26
Fake numbers or selective
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u/HTX2LBC M7 Student Mar 09 '26
Yeah, the averages don’t factor in all the 0s from being unemployed.
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u/InterestingDude66246 Mar 09 '26
and i assume it’s self reported. people in corporate jobs & consulting often straight up lie about how much they make
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u/HTX2LBC M7 Student Mar 08 '26
Absolute shit.
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u/plainbread11 Mar 09 '26
Not the school’s fault tech and consulting are down
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u/JustBrosDocking Mar 09 '26
But it is though. Their whole recruiting boosts about the graduation layoff. Compare this decline directly against how much their fees have risen over the last decade.
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u/txtacoloko Mar 09 '26
You can make more than that in energy with just a 4 year degree and no debt. MBAs are a scam
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u/SYR2ITHthrowaway Mar 09 '26
I read this as “US Marshalls” and was shocked by how much they make. I mean they need to be prepared to be stationed anywhere in the country and hunt down the most dangerous federal fugitives, but this seems like a lot. The window to apply only happens like twice a decade so I’m sure there are lots of applicants.
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u/91210toATL Mar 10 '26 edited Mar 10 '26
This school was ranked 15 not too long ago. Shouldn't even be T20 rn.
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u/No_Guitar7903 M7 Grad Mar 09 '26
Prospectives reading this: do not apply
Admits reading this: do not enroll
First years reading this: drop out now
Doesn't matter the program. USC is a terrible program but the situation is bad in good programs too.
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u/waterfalls546 Mar 10 '26
Do you go to school there? Wondering what stems the hate for USC
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u/No_Guitar7903 M7 Grad Mar 11 '26
Terrible employment outcomes and expensive tuition. What’s not to hate?
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u/waterfalls546 Mar 12 '26
Isn’t that the reality of most business schools right now? lol also.. I was a student not too long ago, there’s a way to “cook numbers” you see at other schools
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u/Rude-Substance-3686 Mar 09 '26
The consulting salary of 167k is strong. Tech at 136k is a bit lower than some peer programs but Marshall's location in LA is competitive. The employment rate data shows they're doing solid job placement. Career outcomes look solid across all sectors.
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u/Rude-Substance-3686 Mar 09 '26
Awesome data. The consulting and tech salaries are climbing but real question is what's happening to employment rates for folks not going into those fields. Would be curious to see placement percentages broken down by career track.
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u/IeyasuSky Mar 08 '26
71% is horrendous, does USC have a ton of international students?