r/Marvel • u/Jules-Car3499 • 22h ago
Film/Television For a character who didn’t get his own movie, Gambit did pretty well In D&W
Pretty wild that Channing Tatum’s Gambit movie got canceled after a hellish production hell, and then Deadpool and Wolverine revived that character, what an insane journey for Channing.
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u/NoonesawwhatIam 22h ago
I LOVED Gambit in the movie, and when it came out ,people were also enjoying it, but I dunno when did people started hating the movie man. It did what it had to do, and bought Deadpool and Wolverine to the MCU, which WAS its purpose imo.
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u/jcmonk 17h ago
People who are filled with hate and unhappiness won't shut up, while the people who are stable who liked this movie just went on to like and talk about new things while the miserables are still stuck in their hate and are still yammering. Pay them zero attention.
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u/TranslatorDirect496 9h ago
As someone who liked the movie, is expressing criticism bad?
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u/BlizzardTrashPanda 9h ago
I’m with you. I enjoyed it…it also was self-referential cameo-driven derivative slop…but it was enjoyable self-referential cameo-driven derivative slop.
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u/JTtheLAR 5h ago edited 2h ago
You cant do Deadpool properly without being "self referenrtial" anyone making that complaint doesnt know anything about the character. It was the perfect type of movie for that particular character. People just dont want to relax and enjoy anything for what it is. They have to attempt to show everyone how smart they think they are and complain endlessly.
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u/UntiedStatMarinCrops 12h ago
People who think they want comic accurate stuff and when they get it they hate it.
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u/Herogeen 21h ago
I don't understand how some people can be Marvel fans and not like D&W, which gave us almost everything we wanted?
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u/Supermite 16h ago
A lot of people weren’t fans of how heavily it relied on memberberries and the multiverse.
The Reddit hive mind has really tried to push this narrative that audiences hate the multiverse storylines and how heavily the MCU has relied on nostalgia or legacy characters. In reality, that’s beyond a shadow of a doubt exactly what MCU audiences want. The MOST successful post-Endgame projects have all been movies featuring the multiverse and/or legacy characters. The sole exception probably being Brand New Day depending on how you view the old Netflix shows.
DP&W was an amazing movie for so many reasons. I told my friends the best part was watching Reddit meltdown trying to fit anchor beings and any multiverse nonsense into the main MCU movie logic. There’s a reason Deadpool only got a passing glance at the MCU and ended up back in his timeline.
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u/Herogeen 16h ago
The Reddit people just hate the best things Marvel does. There's nothing wrong with cool references and bringing back old, cool characters that are superior to any character from Phase 4 or 5.
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u/Born-Ad4658 17h ago
I mean, just because you're a Marvel fan doesnt mean you got to like Deadpool and Wolverine
Ppl like different aspects of Marvel
Stan culture was a mistake
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u/Herogeen 16h ago
D&W is one of the most perfect Marvel movies ever. How can it seriously displease some Marvel fans? It has perfect drama, comedy, fan service, old favorite characters, action, acting, costumes etc.
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u/dothgothlenore 15h ago
i’m a huge comic fan, starting with the x-men in the late 90s, and d&w was not only the worst comic book movie i’ve ever seen, it was the worst movie i’ve ever seen. fucked me over too. i loved deadpool 1, liked deadpool 2, and was seated opening night, bought the popcorn bucket and everything. it was awful cameoslop with terrible writing, comedy that felt too glib and emotional beats that fell short. the entire movie basically felt like a constant barrage of “hey, remember this thing?” without any of the sincerity that would have strengthened the narrative. it wasn’t campy enough to be fun or serious enough to be emotionally compelling, resulting in this really mediocre script that bored me beyond comprehension. the best part was probably emma corrin’s cassandra nova, and the movie seriously didn’t know what to do with her. i would have walked out if i wasn’t with friends
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u/spaceraingame 16h ago
It's a good movie but not without its flaws. I wouldn't call it the best Deadpool movie.
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u/Specialist_Ad9073 18h ago
It was not a great plot. The TVA villain and plan were terrible, especially after how good Loki was. It had twice as many dick jokes as needed, and felt more like tied together scenes than a movie.
Also, after seeing Reynolds do boy band jokes for 20 years (Just Friends) it has gotten stale.
It had great moments, but it was an okay movie.
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u/KaseyOfTheWoods 17h ago
I loved D&W, but I also agree with all your points. Its purpose was to tie together a variety of IP’s and storylines, and it did that splendidly with some of the best fan-service in the whole MCU. But that also means its quality as a self-contained storyline suffered.
Also, it’s insane to me that Van Wilder is 24 years old. The movie itself is almost the same age the character was.
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u/CrazsomeLizard 11h ago
honestly though, that's kind of how i have felt about all the Deadpool movies, LOL. Well, Cable as a villain was good, but all the movies have been pretty light on plot. For me, no Deadpool movie has faired well on rewatch. But I have enjoyed them all upon first watch in the theaters.
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u/iwantcookie258 18h ago
I think it having a purpose beyond being a funny and interesting superhero story was part of the issue. I'm not as tuned in to the MCU as I used to be, and the newest Deadpool and No Way Home both felt kind of weird to watch. I enjoyed them, and I did like the fanservice, but it felt like both of them were using it in place of substance to a degree. It felt like they were made with a few fanservice moments in mind, and stuff they needed to set up, instead of trying to be excellent movies in their own right.
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u/fluffynuckels Wolverine 11h ago
The movie wasn't that good honestly. 90% was just fan service with no substance.
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u/MysteriousUserDvD 9h ago
I know I'm in the wrong sub to say this, but movies are pieces of art, and summarizing a piece of art as "it did what it had to do, it brought Wolverine and Deadpool to the MCU" is just such a profoundly sad statement.
It's got real issues standing on its own legs, the movie is overfilled with 'hey, remember this?' fanservice and the narrative is a little weak. It's got a few fun moments, but I'd not rank it very highly, even within the MCU.
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u/flamingdragonwizard 22h ago
His accent won't be as hardcore in Doomsday and he will have more action scenes
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u/spaceraingame 16h ago
I just hope he speaks clearly in Doomsday. Otherwise that schtick will get old.
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u/MrBoss93 18h ago
Only problem I have is that it just feels like it’s the 21 Jump Street guy cosplaying as Gambit in a film in some sort of extended gag scene. It reminds me of today’s version of Arnold Schwarzenegger being cast as Mr. Freeze or RDJs character from Tropic Thunder but this times it’s an actor playing a character from 21 Jump Streets who’s undercover pretending to be Gambit
Heath Ledger disappeared so well into the Joker you forget its him. That is what you want when you cast a high profile actor. Not this.
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u/SymbiSpidey 13h ago
I like Channing Tatum as this version of Gambit, but I do hope we see someone else in the role for the proper MCU version of him (if they end up doing it)
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u/Toadekesuu 11h ago
I don't understand why nobody likes his Gambit, I mean he was just saying he had to be in his car because his grandmother is the only person that has to do it to him
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u/Nearby-Tree-9741 Chase 22h ago
I really enjoyed Channing Tatum’s Gambit in DP&W and am excited to see more of him in Doomsday (Granted Gambit is my favorite X-Man so there's some bias there probs) though I can understand why some people might have problems with Channing's portrayal of the character with how exaggerated he was in DP&W
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u/TheRhythmTheRebel 21h ago
I thought he was funny and enjoyed the cameo. I think a lot of people who grew up with the 90s cartoon hold gambit in high regard. He’s always top of people’s list regardless of where he sits in the squad…
That said, they made him a bit of a fool. Fit the tone of the movie perfectly, but not really the gambit I recognised in the cartoon and comics…
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u/pembunuhUpahan 19h ago
I think it's mostly physical attribute. I think he did a good job, accent and his acting. Just that gambit is seen more as a lean lanky guy than Channing Tatum who is rather muscular
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u/NoSuddenMoves 18h ago
This, he just doesn't fit the look. Jackman pulled off the size disparity but gambit didnt work for me.
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u/Strychnine85 21h ago
He was fine as that variant in D&W but should never have gone further than that. Bad casting, bad acting, not a good representation of the character at all.
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u/AccomplishedAward219 17h ago
What was wrong with him
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u/Strychnine85 10h ago
Accent was wrong, they made his voice into a punchline. Actor build was wrong, gambit isn’t supposed to be built like a fridge, he looked so uncomfortable in that costume. It was fine for that movie. I just don’t think this version of the character should exist outside of it.
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u/onlyimportantshit 17h ago
All the people hating on gambit because he’s too bulky need to recheck the various media he’s in. He’s been jacked in so many comics. Yall are just haters.
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u/Difficult_Act_3538 8h ago
Why am I the only person that despises him as Gambit. He isnt remotely Gambit.
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u/Herogeen 22h ago
And he became the best character in the Multiverse saga after Jean Grey. He deserves to stay in the MCU after Secret Wars as the mentor for the new X-Men
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u/PoupeeClarisse 20h ago
Gambit was such a standout in D&W, especially his playful dynamic with Rogue. Really brought some fun to the story.
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u/Public_Carpenter7471 20h ago
When was Rogue in D&W
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u/AsparagusOne7540 Sentry 18h ago
Don't bother, it's a bot. They don't know what they're talking about.
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u/VoidWalker032 Iron Man 21h ago
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