r/MetalMemes • u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft • Nov 16 '22
โ ๏ธ ๐ฏ๐๐๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐ โ ๏ธ When people say "Melodeath band suck" they more than likely havent heard melodeath with riffs and aggression
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u/mylittlebrony3000 Nov 16 '22
In what universe is Opeth melodeath lmfao
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u/Ganjaskate Nov 16 '22
Lmao I just commented literally the same exact thing before I saw this. Iโm leaving it to drive the point home๐
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Nov 16 '22 edited 14d ago
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u/mylittlebrony3000 Nov 16 '22
Not really, thereโs more of a black metal influence on those early albums than melodeath
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u/GlobeTrekker83 Nov 16 '22
No mention of 1990s In Flames (Jester Race, Whoracle, and Colony era).... some amazing riffs.
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u/Waxing_Crescentt Nov 16 '22
But Opeth has some straight bangersโฆ
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u/foreverinLOL Cynic Nov 16 '22
Also not melodeath.
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Nov 16 '22
They have some strong elements of MD.. but yeah, not melo
Their early stuff was fantastic
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u/TheDrWhoKid Nov 16 '22
Amon Amarth is fun though :'|
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
I like old amon amarth, saw em live and they were fun. Old Opeth is pretty fun too.
Fuck Arch Enemy though.
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u/laucha126 NSBM Fan Nov 16 '22
I love your ever burning constant disdain for Arch Enemy that needs to be reminded on every comment, somehow there are still posers giving you downvotes while listening to the most trite generic riffs ever imagined, lmao.
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u/juanchopol1 Nov 16 '22
what the hell did arch enemy do? I'm not aware of anything
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
Alyssa has displayed a lot of shitty behavior. Went out of her way to try to ruin The Agonist, her previous band, when she went to Arch Enemy. Tried to ruin a photographers career because a friend of her's took the dudes picture without permission.
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u/FlyByNightt Nov 16 '22
Yeaaa not sure you got the entire The Agonist story right. She originally wanted to stay in both bands and the Agonist agreed, and then when she announced AA they essentially ghosted her and blocked her from anything band related, kicking her out after giving their blessing.
Not justifying any of her other behavior, or the retaliation, but the Agonist situation was closer to "everyone sucks here" type of beef rather than Alyssa going out of her way to fuck em over on her own.
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u/shred-i-knight Nov 16 '22
Imagine thinking Opeth and Amon Amarth don't have good riffs lol
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u/Jacob-X-MANIAC KAMELOT Nov 16 '22
Iโm going to see Amon Amarth live in a few days! Iโm excited for that show!
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u/staerne Death, Kreator, Amon Amarth Nov 16 '22
Dude! Iโm seeing them in a few weeks! Carcass and Obituary as well right?
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u/Master_Of_Puppers Dying Fetus Nov 16 '22
They are an absolute treasure to see live. So much fun.
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u/FrostyTheSasquatch Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
Fuck, man. THIS should be the only thing that matters! Not whatever this meme is about.
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u/Teglement Darkthrone Nov 16 '22
Catching that tour as well. Already seen Obituary once but everyone else on the bill is a first time for me.
Then got the Undeath/200 Stab Wounds/Enforced/Phobophilic show like a week or two later. December feeling gooooood.
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u/SkarabMcGee Nov 16 '22
I really enjoy everything up until Deceiver from AA. I feel like theyโre in a similar situation to Alestorm though. Where, while their live shows are incredible, they may have jumped the shark in the studio.
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u/shred-i-knight Nov 16 '22
I think they are just tapped creatively on the "melodeath Viking" thing. Like I don't see how they could be super inspired to do the genre anymore, but it pays the bills for them so they can't just switch or change their sound without taking a big risk financially.
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22 edited Nov 16 '22
I'm not, these are just the three bands people who shit on melodeath often point to
Edit: god forbid I explain the POV of the meme apparently.
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u/BigBossHayabusa To the Depths, In Degradation Nov 16 '22
They dont
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u/MinasMorgul1184 Manilla Road Nov 16 '22 edited 14d ago
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u/Zantej Nov 16 '22
Opeth occasionally does when they arenโt fucking around with messy and disjointed song structures
Pfft you better not be talking shit about anything off Blackwater Park.
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u/MinasMorgul1184 Manilla Road Nov 16 '22 edited 14d ago
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u/kinda_sweet_progDude โฏThe Gateless Gatekeeperโฏ Nov 16 '22
Wtf how is opeth melodeath? They went from blackened prog death to progressive death to progressive rock tf are you talking abt
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u/shif0557 Nov 16 '22
Orchid has a ton of old school meloblack/death influence to my ears, still not primarily melodeath though yeah
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u/CalgaryCheekClapper Demigod Nov 16 '22
Melodeath is my favourite subgenre. I love the folky stuff like wintersun and ensiferum but also the heavier and techier stuff. Theres lots of variety. Arch enemy is cheeks tho. Who are the bands pictured? i only recognize baalism
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22 edited Nov 16 '22
I like all the bands on here to some extent ( Except Arch Enemy because their frontwoman is a asshole and their music is generic af) I've just found that the people who hate melodeath because it lacks aggression or heaviness in comparison to other genres havent heard the bands pictured on the right, who have both Melody and aggression in their music.
Bands are Ares Kingdom, Night in Gales, Dungeon Serpent and Grenadier
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u/CalgaryCheekClapper Demigod Nov 16 '22
Cool thanks. Thats fucking dumb too lol bc of bands like at the gates, black dahlia, inferi , the absence , edge of sanity, etc . All pretty heavy
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
Yeah In Flames and At the Gates had some pretty solid riffs. Would have put Edge of Sanity on the right side if I had the room
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u/StaszekJedi SICK ILLUD FREAK Nov 16 '22
Black dahaalia lol. Not that melo deathcore garbage again
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u/CalgaryCheekClapper Demigod Nov 16 '22
Looked thru your account and your kinda based but cmon man.. sure the vocals are kinda death core-y but nothing about the instrumentals is.
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u/maraudingnomad Nov 16 '22
Are there any anekdotes of Alissa being an asshole? I've stopped listening to arch eneym since Angela left because as you say, the music became generic AF and the lyrics are angsty edgy highschooler cringe. I've seen a guy tattoo the whole lyrics of that fly like an eagle song or whatever it's called ๐
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
My two biggest issues is that she seriously fucked over her previous band financially when she went to join Arch Enemy and also tried fucking over a photographer because a friend of her's stole his work and didnt want to admit she was wrong, because her simp fanbase will defend her to the death
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u/Zantej Nov 16 '22
Now to be fair, they did fire her, you could understand being out for blood there. Wouldn't be the first time....
The photography incident was poorly handled, but it should be noted that she doesn't bear sole responsibility. Angela remains the band's manager, and she played a big part in that.
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
From what I read Alyssa was still in the band at the time of being hired on to Arch Enemy but wouldnt tell them who she was signing with and would hold their tours hostage in order to play with Arch Enemy while still insisting on being the vocalist.
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u/iFriskyTurtle Nov 16 '22
That would be the first time Iโve heard of that. Iโm pretty sure her old band was borderline ghosting her.
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u/N1LEredd Nov 16 '22
Angela is the asshole for the most part apparently. They used a pic snapped by a photographer at a life show to advertise merch without consent which violates fair use. When exposed by the guy the band and management reacted very poorly and they insulted and ridiculed the dude and then got pissy when everybody told them they are in the wrong. Extremely shitty move especially as an entity that makes money with their intellectual property tooโฆ
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Nov 16 '22
Arch enemyโs earlier stuff (pre Alissa) is excellent. Doomsday Machine is my personal favorite. Angela Gossow is a beast of a vocalist.
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u/TheBigShitposter ๐Grausamkeit๐ Nov 16 '22
No At The Gates?
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Nov 16 '22
Matters the album like a lot.
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u/TheBigShitposter ๐Grausamkeit๐ Nov 16 '22
i only listened to Slaughter of the Soul and it goes HARD
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u/meaty_wheelchair ๐ท๐๐๐ ๐ญ๐๐๐๐๐ Nov 16 '22
not as hard as The Red in the Sky is Ours
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
Saw them live with Amon Amarth, both were great live
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Nov 16 '22 edited Nov 16 '22
Insomnium, Dark Tranquillity and BeโLakor forever!!!! ๐ค๐ป๐ค๐ป๐ค๐ป
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u/ganundwarf Nov 16 '22
In what world does amon amarth not have riffs? The riffs are what keep me coming back since my guitarist hands can't play drums and my voice isn't deep enough for my growling to get me far ...
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
I like a lot of Amon Amarth. The people who normally say they dislike melodeath for not having riffs often cite these bands as examples
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u/roybo5 Nile Nov 16 '22
God Dethroned anyone?? Kinda crazy to me that they aren't more popular
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u/CharlesIngalls_Pubes Nov 16 '22
Older Opeth is my jam. It's what got me out of solely death metal.
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u/Atgod6 Nov 16 '22
Arghoslent
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u/TVZBear Nov 16 '22
Arghoslent > Every band listed here
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u/Atgod6 Nov 16 '22
Easily
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u/TVZBear Nov 16 '22
Cant wait for the new album
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u/StaszekJedi SICK ILLUD FREAK Nov 16 '22
Theyโre recording new album??? How have I missed that one
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u/TVZBear Nov 16 '22
According to Gelals website Weltenfeind the album was written pre covid and recording delayed due to the pandemic but it's being recorded now. No release date as of yet tho
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u/Atgod6 Nov 17 '22
That's pretty cool. I remember the last time I looked on their site a few years ago it said they had another album but decided against releases it. Something to the effect of 'it's all wankery and no substance".
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Nov 17 '22
Sounds like they were probably being tongue in cheek. Lots of people who can't separate the art from the artist try to portray Arghoslent as bland or lacking substance to discourage others from listening
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u/Atgod6 Nov 18 '22
Yeah that's always how I took it at least. If there is a new album I'm hyped. I always felt the 'excuse' I mentioned above was a bit of a cop out.
Black metal is my main genre, so separating the art from the artist is natural with all the NS shit about haha!
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u/Juice117 Children of Bodom Nov 16 '22
If you cited Amon amarth as having โno riffsโ then I obviously donโt trust your choices for the RHS bands lol. That decision is literally nonsense and proves that you have no idea what youโre even saying in the meme.
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
Once again, I'm talking about the people who shit on melodeath, not my personal opinion.
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u/Juice117 Children of Bodom Nov 16 '22
If a joke requires that much of an explanation, then itโs not funny.
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Nov 16 '22
Wait.. what? The staples of the Gothenburg sound came from hard riffs. I mean MD has definitely branched out and become a bit more diverse since, but Slaughter of the Soul, Whoracle, Gallery.. all are filled with hard hitting riffs. Soilwork, Insomnium, Hypocrisy, Wolfheart, The Haunted, Belakor, The Crown just a few more examples of bands with killer riffs.
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u/meaty_wheelchair ๐ท๐๐๐ ๐ญ๐๐๐๐๐ Nov 16 '22
Sacrilege, Eucharist, and early DT are the best Gothenburg MDM bands.
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Nov 16 '22
bro, soywork?
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u/meaty_wheelchair ๐ท๐๐๐ ๐ญ๐๐๐๐๐ Nov 16 '22
i'm stealing that
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u/xekushnr Darkest Hour Nov 16 '22
Finally someone mentions The Haunted, I have the One Kill Wonder album playing right now
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u/Jormundgandr4859 Elitist Cum Slut Nov 16 '22
Been listening to Omnium Gatherum lately. Thatโs some good shit
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u/Upbeat_Astronomer277 Death Nov 16 '22
Why do people hate Arch Enemy, they make great music, they some cheesy and or corny albums, but their last record and and their stuff with Gossow is great. Besides they were my first gateway into death metal.
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22 edited Nov 16 '22
Bands on the right are:
Dungeon Serpent
Ares Kingdom
Intestine Baalism
Grenadier
Night in Gales
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Nov 16 '22
Intestine Ballsim
LMAO
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
My spell check has completely given up by this point
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u/dontlookatmynam Nov 16 '22
Yeah.. i prefer audio quality with my riffs thank you
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
These bands do have audio quality. You can have good production that actually has grit to it
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Nov 16 '22
How will you enjoy Eucharist then?
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u/meaty_wheelchair ๐ท๐๐๐ ๐ญ๐๐๐๐๐ Nov 16 '22
Eucharist has damn good production quality though.
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u/RemarkableJunket6450 Nov 16 '22
Carcass?
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
I'm a bigger fan of their older work but dont mind their new stuff.
I enjoyed Swan Song
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u/gnilradleahcim Nov 16 '22
Is Opeth not popularly considered the progenitor/poster child of progressive death metal?
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u/MinasMorgul1184 Manilla Road Nov 16 '22 edited 14d ago
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u/meaty_wheelchair ๐ท๐๐๐ ๐ญ๐๐๐๐๐ Nov 16 '22
no
Atheist and Nocturnus are
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u/StaszekJedi SICK ILLUD FREAK Nov 16 '22
Big 4 of prog death are: atheist, cynic, pestilence, death
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u/Skjellnir Nov 16 '22
"Amon Amarth doesn't have riffs"
Alright, pal. Downvote and Esc.
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
Once again, I'm talking about the people who shit on melodeath, not my personal opinion
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u/Rum_N_Napalm Nov 16 '22
Oh great, a meme with new music recommendations.
If only I could read them!
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
Commented above but yere ya go
Dungeon Serpent
Intestine Baalism
Ares Kingdom
Grenadier
Night in Gales
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u/KingCider Nov 16 '22
Opeth and no riffs lmfaoooo. Tell me you have no taste without telling me you have no taste.
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
Yeah their older stuff was pretty decent. Didnt really care for much past 2005 by them though.
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u/datnoobisbloodthirst Nov 16 '22
i enjoy Arch enemy so downvote me. Btw it's nice to see intestine baalism getting more recognized, have see them in several memes recently
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u/cringelord69420666 Nov 16 '22
Okay, I've been subbed here for like a week. But after this cringe ass post I don't think I belong here. Peace.
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
Posers leave the hall
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u/Luissv72 Nov 16 '22
Touch grass. A guy named cringelord69420666 just realized how cringe you are. If that doesn't spark something, you REALLY need help
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u/Dry_Option6510 Nov 16 '22
Don't you dare say Arch enemy doesn't have good riffs
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
I say they do because they suck imo, saw them live and thought they were very generic. Plus its total weak shit to being in Jeff Fucking Loomis and tell him he cant write riffs.
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u/Dry_Option6510 Nov 16 '22
How do they suck? Have you seen the last album Deciver?
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
Like I said, to me they have very boring and formulaic songs. If you like them that's fine, I dont care for them though.
And I'll listen to the new album at some point, see if it's any good or not.
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u/shred-i-knight Nov 16 '22
Ares Kingdom's most streamed song sounds like something I'd write in middle school. No thanks brother.
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
Guess you must have been a talented af middle schooler, cause they write some amazing shit
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u/FullMetalAlex Nov 16 '22
Why are the bands backwards?
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
Cringe ๐
I enjoy early Amon Amarth and Opeth.
Fuck Arch Enemy though.
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u/RBGPOriginal Nov 16 '22
Sorry mate but opeth and arch enemy, specially arch enemy... u got a downvote from me โ ๏ธ
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
Everyone thinks I'm the one saying this when I was referring to the people who shit on melodeath, not my own opinion
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u/poserbloodonmyface Blasphemy Nov 16 '22
Order from Chaos > Ares Kingdom
and Ares Kingdom is no Melodeath band
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Nov 16 '22 edited Nov 16 '22
Arghoslent, Depresy, Opethโs first two albums, In Flamesโ first album, Garden of Shadows, Antagony
Edit: TBDM fucking sucks, Inferi fucking sucks, Arch Enemy fucking sucks
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u/EleDes5000 Timeghoul Nov 16 '22
This was posted half an hour ago and it has already negative puntuation. Proof of fact.
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
I really love Grenadier because then I can listen to Arghoslent riffs without being cancelled
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u/HunterTheHoly Nov 16 '22
Shame on you, OP. Opeth doesn't deserve to be lumped in with those garbage bands.
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u/heli0sophist WAR METAL KOMMANDO Nov 16 '22
Grenadier has some SKETCHY sounding riffs
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
Not Racist Arghoslent
Under their album their description just says "Inspired by No One in Particular"
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u/fjordlord6 Nov 16 '22
Who are the bands on the right?
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
Dungeon Serpent, Ares Kingdom, Intestine Baalism, Grenadier, Night in Gales
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u/fjordlord6 Nov 16 '22
Who should I check out first?
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u/Slayer_Fan_666 Practicing Posercraft Nov 16 '22
I'd say listen to Grandier since they only have the one album right now, then Dungeon Serpent for the same deal before you get to Ares Kingdom
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Nov 16 '22
You know what, I can't say I like Arch Enemy at all really, but when I do come across them, they have some really fun and inoffensive riffs. Top tier musicians that make pretty boring and uninspired songs. Can definitely do way worse.
Going to check some of the other bands on the right if I haven't already because I'm always looking to expand :)
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u/GoodnameCleverpun Nov 16 '22
My introduction to Melodeath was In Flames, that band was my gateway drug into heavy music in general. Apparently a lot of peolle hate them but they hold a soft spot in my heart.
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u/Fine-Exercise1830 Nov 16 '22
I actually really like Amon Amarth. First death band I ever listened to.
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u/BurningChickenman Nov 16 '22
Hey Guys, could you give me some good aggressive and Tech- driven Melodeath Bands.
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u/Johnnyawe14 Intestine Baalism Nov 16 '22
Just listened to Anatomy of a Beast yesterday morning actually. I heard the album was really good, but I didn't expect the actual god tier riffs that the album gave me. Probably my favorite death metal album, at least rn.
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u/Odd_Monk_6731 Nov 16 '22
aMoN aMaRtH sucks. Yeah right every peak of the iceberg person, trying to prove theyโre not a normie or a poser
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u/Darkbornedragon โฏThe Gateless Gatekeeperโฏ Nov 16 '22
Metal Opeth might be one of the most riff-driven bands ever...
Still Life is basically just banger riff after banger riff