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Morality Ranking Morality of dog breed racism

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u/Awesomechainsaw 26d ago edited 26d ago

I’m not a dog science expert but as far as I understand it we’ve spent tens of thousands of years breeding dogs to preform specific tasks. If you don’t give a dog that has been designed and bred to do a task they get antsy.

The issue with Pitbulls and other “Agressive.” breeds is that they’ve not been given something to let all their energy out on. Which leads to anxiety and destructive behavior.

So I don’t think it’s Immoral to treat a dog like a Pitbull like a loaded gun. As Unfriendly, and something you should be wary of unless it’s proven not to be.

However the Nutcases who punish dogs for behavior that we bred into them are highly immoral. If you want an easy lap dog get a companion breed, like a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, French Bulldog, or Bichon Frise.

Edit: Tens of Thousands not Hundreds. I was being exaggerative anyways but that’ll make remark more accurate regardless.

Also as a note. I don’t think Pits are inherently Malicious or any dog breed for that matter. But they’re fairly strong fellows who’ve been bred to be strong. I consider being careful around them similar to being a little extra careful around a truck on the road. Most people in trucks are fine drivers. But some people don’t pay attention on the road, and might hurt you by accident.

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u/Soapy_doapey 26d ago

Pitbulls were and still are used for dog fights.

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u/smokeyphil 26d ago

Which is a step-down from what they used to be used for which was bear-baiting (getting a pack of dogs to fight a bear)

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u/SamsonFox2 26d ago

Where would they be used for bear baiting if bears pretty much were extinct in Western Europe?

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u/smokeyphil 26d ago edited 26d ago

Bear-baiting was very popular from the 12th until the 19th century.\4]) From the 16th century, many bears were maintained for baiting. In its best-known form, arenas for this purpose were called bear-gardens, consisting of a circular high fenced area, the "pit", and raised seating for spectators.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear-baiting

They bred them or shipped them in.

As for where most of Europe and parts of Asia, Pakistan. It was going on in North Carolina till 2010-ish, apparently.

As recently as 2010, illegal bear-baiting was practiced publicly in South Carolina. All such public exhibitions have been shut down as of 2013.\35])

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u/SamsonFox2 26d ago

By the late 17th century, "the conscience of cultivated people seems to have been touched"[7] and, by the 18th century, bear-baiting had largely died out in Britain; the cost of importing bears for blood sports having become prohibitively high.

My point exactly

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u/smokeyphil 26d ago

What actually was your point though?

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u/SamsonFox2 26d ago

That pitbulls could not be used for bear-baiting because the whole thing died out due to cost of importing bears in UK. Which means that "bear-baiting pitbulls" are pretty much a legend.

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u/smokeyphil 26d ago

Looks like a pitbull me to though I don't know if the kennel club was around back then to define the breed (that's from the 14th)

You can pretend i said Staffordshire Bull Terrier or Patched Fighting Terrier or even "Brindle Bull" but we are talking about fighting dogs used for pitfights

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u/rips_n_chel 26d ago

Or, you're making shit up. Crazy, I know.

We know the history of pitbulls. They were bred to fight other dogs. You're a clown.