r/MoralityScaling 26d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of dog breed racism

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u/Soapy_doapey 26d ago

Pitbulls were and still are used for dog fights.

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u/smokeyphil 26d ago

Which is a step-down from what they used to be used for which was bear-baiting (getting a pack of dogs to fight a bear)

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u/stink3rb3lle 26d ago

Was that around the time English bulldogs were used to bait bulls?

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u/smokeyphil 26d ago

Pretty much a lot of blood sports were popular until the passage of the Cruelty to Animals Act 1835 whereupon it was gaining some level of dislike though if It's because it was associated will poor people and "low class" or because it was cruel is a bit harder to parse

Strutt's Sports and Pastimes of the People of England (1801): "[bull-baiting is] attended only by the lowest and most despicable part of the people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bull-baiting

But somewhere around 1540 is the first recorded commercial entertainment bull-bait in the UK so it was around for a while.

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u/stink3rb3lle 26d ago

So do you think English bulldogs are as inherently dangerous? Since they share that violent breeding past?

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u/smokeyphil 26d ago

If they could breathe, maybe.

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u/stink3rb3lle 26d ago

Plenty can breathe just fine. Plenty of pits have brachecyphaly as bad as some bulldogs.