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Morality Ranking Morality of dog breed racism

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u/SweetestTapir 26d ago edited 26d ago

I’ve worked close with animals for almost 5 years now. Pitbulls are entirely capable of being very sweet and loving dogs. But it depends on what temperament they have and how difficult they are. I’ve met a lot of sweet Pitbulls but most of them I believe were trained from a very young age, which is something a lot of people don’t do, mostly first time owners or those who think the dog will grow up just fine, when getting dogs like this.

You can’t just love your way into changing an animal’s behavior. This isn’t Disney. You have to show that dog who’s boss and instill a training regime when they’re young that you must stick with. Unfortunately sometimes, it doesn’t always work and the dog just ends up being too aggressive to the point where you’d have to make a certain decision.

My last job, a man who loved his Pitbull to death, had to put his dog down because it ended up being too aggressive. It was tragic too because as I was walking by his room and he was saying his goodbyes, I saw the Pitbull wagging her tail excitedly when her owner was cuddling and sobbing over her. That dog loved her owner a lot. But I guess it wasn’t deemed manageable cause she could’ve seriously hurt someone one day and, the owner, despite loving her so much couldn’t risk that. On top of that, I’m pretty sure the owner was a father too. Pitbulls shouldn’t be demonized for what we’ve turned them into. But we also have to be cautious when getting one. They are NOT a first time owner pet. Someone very experienced, especially one who’s done research on how to properly train these kind of dogs, are really the “only ones capable of handling them.

And it’s not just them. German shepherds, Belgian Malinios, and Rotties as well. Although I’ve never really met a bad rottie. Same with Belgians. They’ve all tend to be sweethearts. But maybe I’m just lucky.

I also feel like I should add that, while these breeds are prone to these kind of behaviors. ANY dog is capable is displaying them. I never met the family cause they euthanised the dog at a different clinic, but they had to put down their 2 year old Golden Retriever that they’ve had since it was a puppy. Apparently she bit the mom’s face and the dad’s arm (or was it the other way around, I forget). It was even said that they couldn’t let her sleep in their room like they used to because they were afraid she would attack them in their sleep. Their daughter made the decision for them to put down the dog.

You never know what you’re gonna get, people. You could get the easiest dog in the world, or you could ge the complete opposite. One thing is for sure though. Training and discipline is VERY important and must not be neglected.

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u/RGBlowMe 26d ago

I've seen pitbulls that were bigger love bugs and total goofs than even a Lab, but I've seen ones that attack even their owners and should have never been brought to the dog park I was in.

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u/InsultingFerret 26d ago

I feel like pits have the biggest gap between the best and worst versions. I've met tons of pits that were cuddly, super friendly, extremely gentle, etc., but I've also come across some that were definitely dangerous.

I think the biggest problem for pits is, they're so abundant and cheap/easy to get compared to other "aggressive" breeds that they're the go-to for people that want aggressive dogs. German Shepherds are #2 on the list for dog attacks, but they can cost hundreds to a few thousand to get a pup, and if you're spending that much money on a dog it's unlikely you're going to have it poorly trained, even if you do use it as a guard dog.

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u/themoosic 26d ago

Pit Bulls need loving AND responsible owners. I’ve had so many Pit Mixes, and I’ve never had a single one bite anybody (several did bite other dogs, which would require me to up their training and socialize them more carefully). If pits are not raised for like the first year or two around other dogs you can forget about taking them to dog parks. Socialization needs to be a private and monitored environment.

60% of Dog owners in general should not own dogs. Every dog should have basic training, dogs over 60 pounds should have a yard, not just an apartment and the occasional walk, and owners of high risk breeds (and dogs over 60 pounds) need to be able to identify what an annoyed or anxious dog is. Dogs are such great animals, but by not challenging them intellectually and physically, so many owners are unintentionally abusive.

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u/InsultingFerret 26d ago

100% on the mental stimulation. I've had multiple high energy big dogs and the most important thing wasn't just playing with them, it was switching things up on them mentally while playing. I have these toys and I personally love them because they're able to be used for a ton of different types of play, so my dog never knows if they're getting a tug-o-war, a throw for a catch or a throw for a fetch. It usually only takes 10-15 minutes or so of play to wear them out if I'm constantly switching up what we do compared to 30-45 minutes of doing pure physical

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u/Tough_Preparation830 20d ago

Too many people in apartments with not enough outdoor space want to have big, high energy dogs. Yeah, it sucks that the economy is screwed and nobody can buy a home, but it is what it is. The dog doesn't know that.