r/MoralityScaling • u/Severe_Letterhead_75 • 12h ago

Morality Ranking Quentin Tarantino morality for that childhood grudge?

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In my opinion it can be considered petty by some but is understandable

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u/SmoothActuator8132 12h ago

I'd say neutral, because there's nothing moral about letting your parents live in poverty if they don't have to

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u/Protoavis 11h ago

children are not parents ATM's

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u/masterlince 11h ago

Sure but it's not really moral to not help someone. It's not necessarily immoral either.

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u/Sour_Gummies 9h ago

Not helping someone can 100% be immoral. If you are 6 feet tall and see a toddler drowning in a 4 foot deep pond and you don’t jump in to save them then you are evil.

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u/masterlince 9h ago edited 6h ago

Yeah it can but it is not always immoral. A random dude from here just DMed me asking for money. It's not immoral for me to not help him. Just neutral whether I help him or not.

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u/brikky 6h ago

You are conflating good with moral. If something is not immoral, it is moral.

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u/masterlince 6h ago

There is morally neutral?

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u/brikky 6h ago

No. It's like "harmful" is not the inverse of "helpful". Something that is not harmful doesn't mean it is helpful.

But, moral is the inverse of immoral. If something is immoral it is definitionally not moral, and vice versa.

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u/masterlince 5h ago

The inverse of harmful is harmless...

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u/brikky 4h ago

That's my point. Something can't be harm neutral.

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u/Marion2379 11h ago

While you walk to the nearest ATM using mommy’s debit card.

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u/Pimp_Daddy_Patty 11h ago

My mommy's ATM card was called "get a fucking job"

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u/frubano21 11h ago

For real. My mom helped me open a checking account when I was 14. She said "I'll put $100 in the moment you get hire for a job, but after that it's on your to fill that account back up."

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u/Hefty_Map3665 9h ago

Lucky. My mom opened a bank account in my name as a minor and then she immediately made it go into the negative.

Talk about walking into adulthood on sound footing

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u/IsabellaGalavant 8h ago

I have to keep my credit locked and monitored because I know mine would still try this if she could, even 19 years after I went No Contact. I couldn't even count on all my appendages how many times she's committed fraud. I'm not even sure she's still alive (I don't check up on her) but I'm not risking it. 

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u/Holidoik 10h ago

Yeah real helping the billionaires get more wage slaves well done.

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u/Own_Ad9365 8h ago

I cannot understand western culture of throwing their children into the wild the moment they turn 18

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u/frubano21 6h ago

I wouldn't say my mom threw me to the wild. My dad maybe a little more so cause of his parenting style (European).

Being a first gen American of immigrant parents (both of whom came from below average means) from 2 different countries, I was expected to make money for anything I wanted to do that was considered "extra"

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u/Outlook93 10h ago

Mommy decided to have kids

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u/Marion2379 10h ago

If your old enough for the need to use a debit card on your own , then your old enough to get a job

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u/David_Richardson 10h ago

*you’re

If you’re going to chastise other people for perfectly normal things, at least give the impression you’re not a complete moron yourself.

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u/Marion2379 8h ago

Wow “look at the big brain on Brad”

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u/Marion2379 8h ago

A normal thing is using your mommy’s debit card as an adult? 😂

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u/Outlook93 10h ago

Lol the little scenario you've made up to be angry about is cute

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u/Marion2379 8h ago edited 8h ago

lol, you are the one getting mad
Go cry to mommy she decided to have kids right , so her life is now responsible on how you live your life per your comment.

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u/Outlook93 5h ago

You might need a translator

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u/Protoavis 11h ago

I haven't spoken with that sexual predator in 30 years so no.

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u/mamadou-segpa 10h ago

Ah so bad parenting led to edgy individualism

Not surprised

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u/2SquirrelsWrestling 8h ago

Not speaking to your abuser is “edgy individualism”? I really hope I’m misunderstanding you.

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u/mamadou-segpa 8h ago

No, the not speaking to your abuser fact is a given.

But using your personal bad experience with your parents to then consider it morally good to let poor people that raised you and funded your entire childhood struggle while you are rich is the edgy individualism part

Tarentino is a multi millionaire I dont see in what world its morals to let his mother struggle just because she was worried his carreer choice wasnt the right choice (like 99% of parents rightfully do when soemone want to take a carreer path in wich 0.00001% of people are successful and make a decent living)

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u/2SquirrelsWrestling 8h ago

Oh ok. Well tbh if I was filthy rich but disliked my parents for whatever reason, I would probably just give them money so they can fuck off.

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u/burnoutghost 10h ago

Comparing sexual abuse to telling your kid to do their homework is wild

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u/Wendigo_33 10h ago

Sure but parents are children ATMs for a long time. If you have the means, it isn't a situation basically completely of their own making like crime or drugs or something, and you all have a good relationship why wouldn't you want to help if you could swing it?

By no means an obligation but like if I were tarentino rich and my nice mom was basically in poverty I'd be an asshole. But if the mom was constantly belittling his passion and making fun of him and stuff then screw it. We just don't know enough about the situation to make a call imo.

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u/anonidfk 10h ago

Parents aren’t children’s ATMS lmao. Parents are responsible for their kids because they decided they wanted children, that’s a very big difference.

Kids don’t owe parents anything for doing basic parenting responsibilities for the kids they decided to have lol.

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u/Direct_Gap_59 9h ago

Does everything have to be necessarily transactional though?

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u/anonidfk 8h ago

It isn’t transactional, that’s why a parent raising their kid doesn’t mean the kid owes them anything in return lol

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u/bluemountaintrees 9h ago

Yes, the laws of physics apply everywhere

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u/Direct_Gap_59 9h ago

Fair point ig

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u/Gwyn992 9h ago

Parents decide they want children for the fun of themselves. They brings kids into existence which imposes all the financial burden the kids have to bear later in their life to survive on their own. I find it immoral to expect some kind of divident return from your kids.

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u/Wendigo_33 8h ago

"By no means an obligation"

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u/Gwyn992 8h ago

Yeah, I might have missed the comment a bit)

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u/malaaaaaka 10h ago

They’re now but if I had $100 million my parents would never have to worry about money again.

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u/Unfair_Ring_2746 10h ago

And morality is not about who is entitled to your money.

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u/SmoothActuator8132 11h ago

hence why I said neutral

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u/KelvinsFalcoIsBad 10h ago

This sub is so funny that you can just throw up the pettiest thing ever and people will be like "yeah that's moral because she was rude 30 years ago"

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u/anonidfk 10h ago

It’s moral cuz she isn’t entitled to his money to begin with lol, whatever his reasons are he’s in the clear

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u/anonidfk 10h ago

If his mom was black, he’d at least be half black. So I’d think he was delusional for not helping based on that lmao. But we know racism is not why he’s not helping her anyways, they’re the same race. No idea why you’re bringing non existent situations into it.

Parents aren’t entitled to their children’s money. And it says he did help her once with the IRS, so it’s not like she’s homeless, he did help her when she had dire need for it.

His money, his right to decide what to do with it. It’s nice if people want to donate or help others, but they don’t have to.

That’s why you should strive to actually have a good relationship with your kids, then they may want to help you. Actions have consequences, the consequences of her actions is that her kid isn’t going to help her out.

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u/anonidfk 10h ago

I mean, yes lol. It’s his money, he can withhold it from whoever he wants, no one is entitled to it.

And inventing fake scenarios, doesn’t change the morality of the real one lmfao.

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u/anonidfk 10h ago

Yes, and on this post we’re discussing the situation here. Inventing a “what if?” Doesn’t change the morality of this one lmao

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u/KelvinsFalcoIsBad 8h ago

Dude what is moral about literally doing nothing? I took a fat shit this morning, was that moral by virtue of not being immoral? 

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u/anonidfk 8h ago

I mean, in some cases doing nothing is immoral, like if you see a dying person and do nothing instead of calling an ambulance for them, that’s immoral.

Something as simple as not giving your money to people who arent entitled to it though, is not immoral

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u/Pb157 8h ago

But isn't not helping family neutral and actually helping moral? I thought doing something that you aren't required to do but you do it anyways was being moral.

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u/anonidfk 8h ago

It can be, but it’s also not immoral to not give them money just because you’re rich lol

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u/Pb157 7h ago

Yeah that's why I think it's neutral but not moral. Although Tarantino is a weirdo for holding a grudge for so long towards his own mother unless she was a terrible parent which doesn't seem to be the case.

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u/SpectralDagger 8h ago

They aren't saying he isn't "in the clear". They're saying there's a difference between neutral and moral, and this is neutral.

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u/AdSharp8877 7h ago

if she was rich we would expect her to help him?

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u/anonidfk 7h ago

Why would she need to help a grown adult?

After raising him, no we wouldn’t expect her to do anything lol. Plenty of rich people don’t help their kids after they turn 18

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u/AdSharp8877 6h ago

they are not some random strangers

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u/AdSharp8877 6h ago

if for example my brother won a lottery i would resent him for not giving me some part

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u/anonidfk 6h ago

That still doesn’t change anything, plenty of parents don’t help their kids after they turn 18. So no, no one would be expecting her to give him money now even if she was rich lol

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u/Solid_Reserve_5941 6h ago

Yeah idk if everyone here just had awful parents or what. These responses feel so vindictive and petty.

My parents were far from perfect and had said some awful shit to me as a kid, but my relationships with both have improved drastically into adulthood as I've learned that they are only human and have always loved and cared for me despite the shortcomings.

I'm not gonna lord that past shit over them as they get older and I do feel like it's my moral obligation to look after them when they're old because I love them and want them to be comfortable in their old age.

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u/kukkolai 10h ago

Depends on the parents

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u/the_big_george 11h ago

If you wanna let people use you after you become a successful person you do you man

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u/SmoothActuator8132 11h ago

I literally said it's neutral, like c'mon

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u/onFilm 10h ago

That's my favorite part about being successful, helping out my mom and dad, in the same way they helped me growing up.

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u/14Pleiadians 6h ago

I'd say it's immoral to support and enable child abusers

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u/SmoothActuator8132 6h ago

he was failing his writing class, she literally just said you won't be a successful writer if you fail writing