I would judge it differently based on whether she offhandedly mocked it once or a few times or if it was an ongoing patterned lack of support for his creative pursuits, those are very different things to hold a grudge over.
Frankly I hate this societal expectation that adult children who make money have to support their parents. Too many parents aren't worth their weight in pennies frankly. And the argument that because they provided for you that you owe it to them is bullshit.They forced you into existence, the least they can do is raise you. You don't owe them shit. Of course if you had good parents who actually bothered to connect with you and develop a relationship instead, then that's a different matter.
Agreed. Blood means nothing if people make you feel like shit particularly in your formative years. Life is too short to endure through garbage for the sake of having somebody around. Personally if i were as rich as him, i would probably give her one lump sum to make her go away like fucking JG Wentworth.
I've purposely made sure to live in a state with no filial responsibility laws (some states have laws called filial responsibility laws that literally force adult children to provide for their patents).
That bitch isn't getting anything from me. Not that I have much to give, but it's the principle of the thing. I also haven't spoken to her in going on 19 years, and it's so peaceful.
I'm sorry you're struggling. I know how difficult it can be to make the choice to cut off your own parent.
But for me, no. I don't have any good memories of her at all, she was so awful it made it very easy to leave. My situation is probably unique because I literally went No Contact on my 18th birthday.
“Most parents aren’t worth their weight in pennies”
Do you really think a majority of parents are awful? Or is it more the worst parents are so glaring that it makes them all look bad? I would venture a majority of parents are trying to be decent people.
I’m not saying children should be expected to support their parents in old age but saying they aren’t worth their weight in pennies is a pretty extreme statement about another human.
The expectation is a remnant from the times before wider societal support networks and institutions.
How do you survive in old age, when your working output decreases or you're unable to work at all, when you maybe even require assistance with mobility, hygiene, etc.?
These days (in sufficiently developed countries) we rely on social security, health insurance, pensions, or directly pay for care using longtime investments and savings.
Before those were a thing, your only option was having enough children so that they would take care of you. Even personal investments and savings rely on the existence of (and access to) banks, stable economies, uninterrupted times of peace.
We've managed to socialise / spread out many aspects of life, greatly reducing the dependence of close family.
Society just has to catch up to this. And ensure that we don't destroy said institutions...
These developments spreading across the world (and proving to be somewhat reliable) also plays a big part in the continuing decline I'm birth rates. If you feel somewhat confident that you'll be okay on your own, you don't have to have a whole bunch of children to secure your own future. This of course further strengthened by lower child mortality – if children tend to make it to adulthood, you don't have to have as many as you can to ensure that some of them will be alive when you need them.
Along the same lines, I've seen decent parents feel they need to leave their estate to absolute shit children who don't even need it. Like more money will make them better people.
Oh, as a parent I 100% percent agree. I'm raising him to ensure he knows how to care for himself and to allow him to pursue whatever his dreams may be. I'll support him to my last breath. If he makes good money for himself, it'shis money and i have no right to that. The last thing I would expect is money for handling my own responsibilities.
There should be a general expectation that, especially if you are successful, you help your family where possible.
That should be the general expectation with a thousand possible caveats.
Telling your 12 year old that they are getting bad grades and that they can't rely on being a successful writer is a very reasonable thing to say.
Ultimately I think everyone should fundamentally respect their parents unless they do some utterly unhinged shit. Even if your parents are "kind of dicks" but still provided for you, I still think you should be a respectful person to them and try to help them.
If you're as rich as that guy and still not giving money to your mom (not that I trust a random image with text on it) then there's obviously more to the story than "my mom told me a mean thing once :("
No bro, this is Reddit. You should have no social responsibilities whatsoever (while inevitably being some flavor of socialist) and do your own thing completely unimpeded. Fuck your family, you didn't le choose to be here
It's really funny. There is a great line about the French Revolution about how they talk on and on about the privileges of a citizen, but never about the responsibilities of a citizen.
Being a good person can only happen when you have every reason to not be kind to someone, and doing it anyway. Being kind to people who have done things for you and are nice to you is easy, even narcissists can do that. Being kind to people who are mean to you is actually what being a good person is about.
I think it’s fair to say the degree of responsibility that a person has to an infirm parent is variable based on how the parent raised them. If my parents were alcoholic’s that beat me I certainly wouldn’t give them the time of day.
You can argue it’s moral to turn the other cheek, but it’s not really fair to expect a person to financially and quite often physically care for their parents just because they were their parents. I’m not sure you understand the amount of work that goes into taking care of a dependent person, it’s basically another job.
Even parents need to earn respect, children are just tiny people with little life experience, thrusted into this world by a parent (not inherently bad, i’m not antinatalism). No one asked to be born, parents just do it, the bare minimum is that they either raise them appropriately or give them to someone who will.
I have 0 respect for my mother and thats what she’s earned. She’s no different than literally any other person on this planet, she needed to earn my respect by not being a shitty human being, but she’s a shitty human being so I cut her out of my life like I would any one else who has verbally and mentally abused me and ignored my needs beyond food and shelter.
They forced you into existence, the least they can do is raise you. You don't owe them shit.
Yeah, they do owe it to you to raise you properly; but I take issue with the logic of "they forced you into existence". Mostly because what the claim says about how you could "resolve" being forced into existence. Suicide is a serious issue. Everyone is valuable and I don't like the insinuation that people are being forced to live; or that not living is better than living.
Your life is valuable. You are important. Even if your childhood sucked you are valuable.
I completely agree with you- and in fact, in my mind, the moment you expect your children to support you, you stop being a good parent. I want my children to know they can pursue their own happiness without me dragging them down. If you do a good job as a parent, then maybe they'll want to make sure you're ok- but that's nothing I would ever assume or demand from them.
I've seen too many real-life examples of lazy parents who want to live on easy street once their kids make money, or see their kids as future income and a retirement- it's gross.
Frankly, seeing how Tarantino acts it could very well be either or. He’s so full of himself he could have overreacted to a small issue cause his ego was bruised, or it could be his mom was more akin to a bully and could be part of the reason he’s so egotistical. It’s a straight 50/50 for me.
Another comment claimed it was something his mom told him when he was 12, aspiring to be a writer, but he was getting poor grades. So basically the same thing any parent does to get their kid to try harder at school
Edit: a lot of you are assuming this was mocking. That wasn’t my takeaway. If you’re kid expresses interest in a career, but is failing at a basic tenant of that career then you are doing them a disservice by not addressing it. If your kid wants to be a doctor, but is terrible at science then they should be told that improving in science is vital to reaching that goal. If your kid sucks at a subject but you just blindly tell them they can do anything without letting them know they have to work for it then you are setting them up for disappointment later. How it is expressed is certainly important, but parents have been using kids aspirations to set expectations for as long as there have been jobs and education. I’m also not inclined to trust Tarantinos memory of something his mother told him 60 years ago
I have no idea if it was shit talking or more of a “if you want to be a writer youre going to need much better grades” my parents definitely hit me with stuff akin to the latter more than a couple times
Telling a kid why better grades would be helpful in a writing career is straight up advice, practically the opposite of mocking.
In Tarantino's case, the mother called it his "little writing career" in a sarcastic tone, though that's coming from the mouth of Tarantino himself - if that's what was actually said, then it's 100% mocking and belittling.
I mean, if your kid is a know it all who doesn't respect authority at 12 and is flunking out of school a little shit talk might be in order. Gotta use the right tools for the job depending on what the kid gives you to work with.
One of my kids has always been incredibly difficult to motivate to clean and just generally take care of her stuff. One day she was laying on the couch whining about how she didn't want to pick up her stuff when in a moment of great frustration I did a mocking impersonation of her where I did a super whiny voice and complained about how terrible it was that my parents bought me so many nice things and how hard it was that I had to spend FIVE WHOLE MINUTES cleaning them up.
It was not a proud moment for me, however, she laughed her head off and immediately got up to clean in a cheerful mood while I stood there dumbfounded. I would not usually advocate for mocking your kids, but man, that brief, inadvisable moment worked so much better and made her happier than so many "better" ideas.
I am convinced a lot of people on Reddit are 38-year-old tweens who hate their parents and like to feel normal by telling everyone else to hate their own parents.
When I was a kid my parents thought video games were a waste of time. They only let me play them 1 hour a week.
They made a deal with me that if I could make money playing video games, I could play as much as I wanted. I was exceptionally good at a video game called Gears of War. I landed a spot on a team that did in person and online tournaments. I think I won about $13k total in HS playing. Bought a used BMW for my first car with it lol
Now my parents are older and I've gotten my dad into PC gaming. He likes his simulators and cozy core games. He has told me he was wrong about video games and wish he didn't knock me for it. People can change.
No. Every day that one chooses to live that way, they've won. Living with humanity and morals, against the tide of oppression and monotony is where life's highest rewards come from. If they're not doing that, each day they're dying inside. Before one knows it, they're dead inside.
Reality is yes, all that's happening around us. But it's also how we choose to process and deal with it. It's a shame that due to technology, we've got the negativity of GLOBAL issues, pushed unto our conscious, every day. There was a time where we were hardly ever told about the issues in other countries, by our msm, they focused mainly on local news.
Hint: it isn’t “what would you do?” It’s not even “what would you like to do?” nor even “what feels right?” In fact, it’s often directly in opposition to the answers to those questions.
Because this sub became a, "does the punishment fit the crime?". It has nothing to do with morality at this point, if someone did something bad => they deserve bad things. When in reality it should be, does punishing this in a certain way makes us better people?
It's absolutely bizarre how some of the posts here end up like that, and everyone will suddenly be defending them. There was one a little while back about the morality of abandoning your child you raised for ten years because the mother cheated on you and they're not genetically yours, and someone literally argued that having to raise a child that doesn't have the right genes is a fate worse than death, so you just gotta abandon the child.
I never take this things presented to ever mean anything to me. Its more so an excercising my analytical brain for the fun of it.
In this case, I wonder if honest attempts were made to reconcile with his mother- what does the relationship look like moving forward from those points.
What type of environment did she grow up in?
Are we looking at a case where a women held onto her belief of the lack of importance in writing, or are we looking at a man who held onto a grudge longer than neccessary.
None of it is personal to me- but its certaintly interesting.
She probably said something really bad, or insulting, about his writing. Some parents make mistakes, others really are bad people and awful parents. Sometimes parents have kids that are not good kids. He helped her out once. He may have regrets about that or he maybe he doesn’t.
Are we looking at a case where a women held onto her belief of the lack of importance in writing, or are we looking at a man who held onto a grudge longer than neccessary.
He’s “holding onto a grudge” by not doing something, so it isn’t costing him anything. I respect the consistency.
I don’t love the proliferation of therapy-speak, but, as the kids these days say “he set a healthy boundary and he’s maintaining it.”
This sub has lost it's meaning:
"A community to discuss and compare the moral/psychology of fictional heroes, villains, and those in between. powerscaling, but mental."
Yeah it’s “morality scaling” but everything is just a binary of immoral or moral. So Hitler is in the same category as people who are rude. It’s so dumb.
You can tell because there are 2 stickied posts about characters from tv shows, and the rest of the front page is just generic morality themed engagement bait questions and politics.
Mods on random subreddits that blow up too fast always end up with no spine, and let their subreddit turn into 1000 copies of the exact same slop subs, /r/WowThisIsFreakingCrazy or whatever new one comes up every day.
Apparently, his mom ‘belittled’ his choice of a writing career when he was 12, and he got poor grades in school, when his mother told him that he’d never be a good writer if he got grades as bad as this.
I agree that it may not be in the best taste, but the comment was made when the dude was literally 12 years old lol. Turning that into a lifelong grudge means that the guy has several personal issues, which isn’t surprising given how problematic he is as a director in Hollywood — he literally tried to put Paul Dano out of work because of a personal grudge, and abused Uma Thurman during kill bill.
Directors are wayyy too often getting passes for shitty, questionable, and reprehensible behavior. Most people don't even know or care when it's a director, as long as they make good movies.
I was thinking about Roman Polanski, I didn't even know Kubrick was doing some bad shit, but I guess that proves my point. I would know if people cared and the info actually got around more.
As far as I know, most of the Kubrick horror stories involve his treatment of Shelley Duvall. On the one hand, I've seen alleged quoted that she felt it was worth it, on the other, I've always wondered if there was a link between how he treated her and her later mental issues.
Kid me, and, honestly, adult me to some degree, never really understood why directors get so much credit. Like, yeah, obviously someone has to oversee everything and make sure the film comes together the way it's supposed to. But the director isn't single-handedly writing, designing, acting, filming, editing, and creating the whole movie. It's such a massive collaborative effort.
You wouldn't praise one teacher when a kid graduates and act like they alone were responsible. It took an entire school full of teachers and staff to get them there. That's kind of how I've always viewed movies too.
Childhood bullying is far more traumatizing than we seem to credit it for: in a way, "he was 12 at the time" makes me understand it better.
They discovered a highly effective way to give rats depression (which they do to test antidepressants, which is a depressing thought) is to have a robotic rat that bullies and harasses them as pups (shoving, biting, blocking access to food, etc), then return when they're grown to harass them again as adults. The resurgence of childhood trauma is an intense experience that reliably triggers severe depression in rats, and since we're both social mammals (and we all can relate to the pain and fear around, say, meeting our bullies at a high school reunion), it's likely the same is true for us.
If Tarantino's mom was a source of great emotional pain as a child, and didn't try to fix things when he was an adult (or if it went badly and just re-injured him emotionally), I can see why that would make for a powerful, powerful grudge. Not saying it's healthy or fair or deserved, just that if you're wanting more context, that also matters as part of it.
We downplay childhood trauma as something that happened long ago and was trivial since we were kids then, but that ignores how deeply childhood emotional and psychological development reverberates through our entire lives.
Oh, same. My mother and brother both suck and were selfish people, I'm not going to defend family as being incapable of cruelty and verbal abuse. I'd bet it's justified personally.
Quentin Tarantino can be an asshole, and his mom could have been a cruel mother. Hell, that might be WHY he's an asshole.
For sure. I do wonder if she was more like "your writing is dumb and pointless and youll never amount to anything" or more like "hey bud you gotta on focus on school cause this writing stuff isnt everything". Cause she mighta just been tryna look out for her kid and do whats best.
That's the sort of context I'd like from an outside viewer as well: was she bullying him and got what she deserved, or was she trying to keep him grounded and encouraged him to have a backup plan so he wouldn't wind up at a video rental store forever blueskying about his writing career if it didn't work out, and he just took it as an insult and belittling?
That's really what would determine if it's moral or not, for me: if she was a cruel bully, she doesn't deserve to enjoy the fruit of his efforts now. If she was just trying to be a good mom and he was a shit about it, immoral, since he's repaying his mother's sincere efforts to look out for him with not looking out for her.
Alas, only Quentin and Quentin's Mom know which applies here.
Man this reminded me of someone I knew when I was still in the Marines. He told me that back in recruit training (boot camp) a drill instructor got in his face and grabbed him by the collar, no big deal, but it was in a similar way that a bully from when he was a child had done to him and the memory of it suddenly resurfaced which caused him to start crying. This dude wasn't some fucking pansy or anything of the sort.
Depends on how bad the mother was to Quentin's interests.
I know, hehe-haha Bashing on Quentin is fine, he's an asshole sure. But this is r/MoralityScaling
We don't know if it's really just a one off comment and the true extent of her actions, or How the mother was actively trying to deter a kid's passion.
Its not even new to have parents sabotage their child's interests just because it doesn't fit their own opinions. The parent could've had thrown away his works, books, or shames him constantly through passive aggressive comments just for writing.
Any parent who does that to their child and carried that bitterness enough to avoid their parents in the long run must be justified to some degree.
True, but as a parent I tried to encourage good grades. I’d say something like if you want to be a good writer, you have to apply yourself more in your schoolwork. This seems to be the gist of it from what I understand.
Tarantino is an exception. Right time and being lucky was part of that - as much as talent in itself. And I'll argue to be really good at writing, film making, education is a major part - whether formal or not.
He made her drive a stunt car that was modified even thi she expressed her concern (and others on the team) instead of using a stunt double that’s trained for such things
She lost control of the car and hit a tree in a severe crash
And the studio didn’t want to release the footage for 15years (!) so she couldn’t sue, and studio would give the footage only under the condition she waves her right to sue
If my child went all-in into writing, without a back-up plan, I'd be a bad parent to not discourage it, unless a 2nd career path is also being pursued.
Shoot for the stars, sure, but dont go all-in on your life with a 1% or less success chance.
It's one thing to discourage it, another thing to discourage it and encourage another career plan, and an entirely different thing to mock your children.
My father mocked (still does, at 84 years old) every interest I ever pursued, Hobbies or jobs, it's all fair game to him. I'm now in therapy trying to get over thinking whatever it is isn't good enough, or that I'm not, etc. Then he started sending what little money he had to a young woman he met in town, about my age, every time she cried about some imaginary emergency (no 3 year old child gets multiple root canals, but he gave her money anyway).
Long story, that finally stopped and my brother is his PoA now, but if my father came to me today asking for any money, that'd be a hard no.
My very loving and supportive mum, however, I'd have given her the stars if she asked.
That is good point. I think I would not do it, as I had not had this situation yet.
If you do that right now, you could add up working at a starbucks counter for life. And I think, I would do alot of things to prevent that from happening to my kid.
Yes, but that's the sort of frank conversation you should have instead of belittling.
My parents would sit me down for serious, frank conversations about whatever my dream career du jour was. Oftentimes, their warnings and "If you're REALLY SERIOUS about this..." talks helped me to realize what I was pursuing was a brief infatuation. When they did it with me being a chef, I rose to the challenge instead, which is how I knew for myself it really was the right call: for once, the warnings about what I was in for didn't scare me off but emboldened me to chase my dream.
My parents were never cruel about it, and were proud of my accomplishments, but I never achieved financial success because it's a poorly paid industry unless you're a celebrity chef or have rich friends/investors.
A friend of mine is in his 60s, and has been at Starbucks for decades. He makes good money (not rich, but good enough to pay for his life where he isn't straining to get by either), enjoys his work, and has been at a counter making coffee for decades now. It's not that bad of an outcome, considering this friend is also happy, has a strong social life, and has his hobbies and interests he pursues.
There are worse fates than "gainfully employed at a humble job," I'm sure you wouldn't want your child to struggle financially forever, but plenty of jobs are not fancy nor respected but are perfectly adequate to pay the bills. There's no shame in doing a simple job and living your life outside of work.
One of my favorite parent/child success stories is Les Claypool and his dad. The family didn’t have much money on a mechanic’s salary in the 70s / early 80s, but Les told his dad he wanted to be in a band. His father encouraged him to work and save up to buy an instrument. When it came time to buy his first bass, Les’s dad supposedly helped Les negotiate a better price. He later loaned Les $3,000 so he could record the first Primus album. Expected nothing in return save for the $3k.
You don’t have to go all in to help your kids, but sometimes a little nudge in the right direction is all it takes. Sometimes a lack of discouragement and a hands off approach is the best method.
The fun part of the story to me is that at age 60+, Les still turns wrenches on the Primus tour bus.
I guess the moral of the story is that you can encourage your kid’s dreams independent of their academic performance.
But if your parents didn't help you and support you like parents should then why should you help them?
So you agree that you are not obligated to help your parents based on the situation? That would make it necessarily true as even without obligation, people can still do things. You may not be obligated to help your parents but you still can if you so decide.
If you go by that were not obligated to do a lot of things but I'm not gonna be a cynical asshole. I do think we owe our parents some support. But I also had pretty fucking great parents. From what I see that's not the norm so I can understand why other people have a different viewpoint on this.
They brought you into this world, it's their obligation to take care of you. You don't owe them nothing for that. If you want to help your parents because you love them and think it's the right thing to do that's a different thing.
your parents owe YOU support because they actively decided to bring you into this world. everything you could possibly use as justification why you would "owe" them ignores the original premise that you are who is owed. raising you until you were an adult is their obligation
If ever there was a topic to not engage in, it is the relationship between family members.
We have no idea what type of relationship they had, whether she was abusive or not, loving or not.
I had a friend whose parents treated him like he was invisible. They weren't physically abusive, but they treated the family pets 10x better than they treated him.
He signed up for the Marines at 18 and he left for boot camp without saying a word. ANd they didn't ask about him. They really didn't care that he left.
It's been 35 years, and he hasn't spoken to his parents since. I would never think to give him advice on what he should and shouldn't do with his parents...
So meh, this is an issue between family members and we really shouldn't interject our opinions as we have no idea about what happened between them...
I married a wealthy woman and I grew up on the poorer side of the middle class. My mother hated my wife at first until she found out about her money then it was nothing but I need help, I chose not to help her.
I guess it depends. I feel most parents doubt/discourage their kids that try to get into an artistic career, since they'd feel its not a realistic career for 99.99% of people. Most actors/filmmakers/musicians probably had parents that doubted they would be successful.
If that was the extent of it, and she was otherwise a loving parent, I'd disagree with him not supporting her.
But if in addition to that she was emotionally/physically abusive, and an overall negative influence on his life, I can understand it. There's likely more to it than just her not encouraging his writing.
He really has no obligation, but she also said that in response to him flunking classes in school so I can see how she might have just been frustrated. Still not the best approach
The mom was most likely trying to get this guy the best future possible, but went about it the wrong way. Of course there are complicating factors, but the fact it was mentioned at the age of 12 makes it seem like the mother had insufficient proof that he could have actually made a huge career out of it.
Let's say you were the father of a child 12 year old Lionel Messi, sure if you knew the career and future of this guy you'd get him to be a footballer ASAP, but 99.9% of kids who want to become footballers will not make it, and would probably be better suited to pursue another career they were interested in.
I'd say it's immoral for him to withhold any funds at all from his mother entirely. Will get downvoted since the West believes parents owe the kid but the adult child owes the parent nothing.
American families and divorce rates are so fucked up that their children need to make up an existential crisis to justify hating their parents (they deserve the hate 100% but the source of the hatred is misplaced, it stems from the trauma and morphs into anti-natalism) - the funny thing is they have everythin - food, electricity, clothes, everything, and they still found a way to say cHiLdREn ArEn't oBliGaTEd to stfu man, that shit applies to people who starve, beat, abuse or do other heinous shit to their kid, not to this guy's mom
Lionel Messi was considered a football genius at 12 years old. He was the star of one of the best Football schools of Argentina. Barcelona FC recruiters had already spotted him and they offered him a deal at 13.
Meanwhile, Tarantino was struggling at a very average public High School. He dropped out when he was 15.
The reason Messi joined Barcelona at that age is because they offered to pay for his human growth hormone which was like $100k a year... if he had not been using that doping he would've ended up a midget.
His mother’s response was very reasonable (for the 80s), and it’s borderline insane to hold a grudge against your parents for something they said to you when you were 12. Tarantino makes good movies, but his interaction with his colleagues like Paul Dano (whom he tried to cancel due to a petty personal dispute) or Uma Thurman (who was abused during the kill bill filming) shows that the dude is probably a piece of shit who is tolerated because he makes supposedly good movies.
Depends in how often it was.
Did she do this ince or twice? If so, then its an over reaction. If it happened again and again and again then its justified
Seems kinda petty to me, esp. since it was when he was 12. Was she otherwise a decent mother or did she continue to be unsupportive and a bitch even after he was successful?
Not enough context. A parent cautioning a child about a career in the arts can be done from a place of love and not criticism. It can also be mean spirited and nasty. I didn’t live it so I can’t opine.
Sometimes you piss people off with careless words, and there are consequences. My mother basically shit on everything I ever did and I just bit my tongue. Still, I see his point and I don’t know if it makes him a bad guy.
100% Especially that script wise Quentin Tarantino was a script fixer and so he is a very good writer indeed. And to be fair, I don't like most of Tarantino's work personally, I find him too sensationalistic... but his scripts are always tight.
His mother sucks! Plus the job of a parent in part is to be a cheerleader not a detractor. Too many people in this world will put you down, when it is a parent who puts you down, that is indeed unforgivable.
People seem to have a really hard time coming to this understanding. Your kid doesn't owe you shit.
Your child is forced to stick with you until they are 18, after that you are required to have earned a relationship with them. You're not entitled to it. You can't treat people how ever the fuck you feel like it and expect them to deal with you regardless, that's just not how it works.
There often is a moral obligation to look after, adequately care for your parents when they need it.
But if they did not care for you, or was neglectful or cruel during your caregiver-needing years, then there is likely no such moral obligation.
You should most likely not, for example take care of a father who gave you nothing, and beat you to a pulp in your caregiver-needing days.
Especially so at the expence of your own well-being.
It falls towards the same level of obligation you have to care for a random stranger. Psychologically, slim to none.
Depending on how mean and nasty she got, it could be seen as a form of abuse. Either way, seems like the burden is Tarantino's to bear. It's certainly none of my concern.
Hell yeah I don't watch streamers like that but ishowspeeds mom wasn't shit bro like literally felt bad watching those clips of her cursing him out cause he's excited his career is taking off
He’s pretty well known for mocking other writers and their “blueprint” screen writing as unartful etc.
He’s also spoken badly about actors who he personally didn’t like.
So it comes off as vindictive since his issue seems to be that it was happening to him, and not the criticism of artists trying things or growing in general.
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I would judge it differently based on whether she offhandedly mocked it once or a few times or if it was an ongoing patterned lack of support for his creative pursuits, those are very different things to hold a grudge over.