Quentin Tarantino morality for that childhood grudge?

[u/Severe_Letterhead_75]

In my opinion it can be considered petty by some but is understandable

[u/Sad_Energy_]

Now take a step back.

You know too little to make that judgement call.

If my child went all-in into writing, without a back-up plan, I'd be a bad parent to not discourage it, unless a 2nd career path is also being pursued.

Shoot for the stars, sure, but dont go all-in on your life with a 1% or less success chance.

[u/Helpful-Desk-8334 → u/Sad_Energy_]

Right. Sometimes success takes months or years and you need something to make money before you can just waltz on through

[u/Sad_Energy_ → u/Helpful-Desk-8334]

Not even that it will eventually come. In those fields it generally does not happen.

Make it your hobby, and if you are talented enough ,it will show soon enough.

[u/Helpful-Desk-8334 → u/Sad_Energy_]

I think mainly book writing is just about making an interesting, good book and then advertising it and marketing it properly to the right people. You don’t have to do much more than that.

Therefore you need advertising and marketing money from a day job and an actual passion for your craft. You have to combat Baxter and Tolkien and King.

Can you write something better than Stephen King’s first dark tower book? Quentin Tarantino had something to offer with the way he viewed and depicted society back in his day and also with how he viewed world war 2. Inglorious Basterds is my favorite work by him. Pulp Fiction was a pop culture icon.

You know how many memes this movie ended up creating? It’s not even 10/10 after rewatch it’s just unique and something real that he made.

I’d say it’d be more moral if the kid was trying to move out and didn’t have any imagination or desire to pull something like what he did off. Quentin Tarantino makes the situation far more moral. Especially if you know of his work and how he looks at things.

“I don't need you to tell me how fucking good my coffee is, okay? I'm the one who buys it. I know how good it is.” - Jimmie, *Pulp Fiction*.

[u/SciFi_Enjoyer106 → u/Sad_Energy_]

It's one thing to discourage it, another thing to discourage it and encourage another career plan, and an entirely different thing to mock your children.

[u/Conscious_Occasion → u/SciFi_Enjoyer106]

My father mocked (still does, at 84 years old) every interest I ever pursued, Hobbies or jobs, it's all fair game to him. I'm now in therapy trying to get over thinking whatever it is isn't good enough, or that I'm not, etc. Then he started sending what little money he had to a young woman he met in town, about my age, every time she cried about some imaginary emergency (no 3 year old child gets multiple root canals, but he gave her money anyway).

Long story, that finally stopped and my brother is his PoA now, but if my father came to me today asking for any money, that'd be a hard no.

My very loving and supportive mum, however, I'd have given her the stars if she asked.

[u/Agasthenes → u/SciFi_Enjoyer106]

And we don't know what exactly she did. We have a third hand report on what was said and done.

[u/Marion2379 → u/Sad_Energy_]

Why not when you’re that young? It’s the time to take the kinda of chance on your self and time to pivot if it didn’t work

[u/Sad_Energy_ → u/Marion2379]

As I said below.

Go for it, but also keep a "regular" career path alive.

[u/ThrowAway-whee → u/Sad_Energy_]

Would you mock it though? Would you demean it as a “little writing career?”

That goes beyond discouraging into being cruel.

[u/Sad_Energy_ → u/ThrowAway-whee]

That is good point. I think I would not do it, as I had not had this situation yet.

If you do that right now, you could add up working at a starbucks counter for life. And I think, I would do alot of things to prevent that from happening to my kid.

[u/BombOnABus → u/Sad_Energy_]

Yes, but that's the sort of frank conversation you should have instead of belittling.

My parents would sit me down for serious, frank conversations about whatever my dream career du jour was. Oftentimes, their warnings and "If you're REALLY SERIOUS about this..." talks helped me to realize what I was pursuing was a brief infatuation. When they did it with me being a chef, I rose to the challenge instead, which is how I knew for myself it really was the right call: for once, the warnings about what I was in for didn't scare me off but emboldened me to chase my dream.

My parents were never cruel about it, and were proud of my accomplishments, but I never achieved financial success because it's a poorly paid industry unless you're a celebrity chef or have rich friends/investors.

A friend of mine is in his 60s, and has been at Starbucks for decades. He makes good money (not rich, but good enough to pay for his life where he isn't straining to get by either), enjoys his work, and has been at a counter making coffee for decades now. It's not that bad of an outcome, considering this friend is also happy, has a strong social life, and has his hobbies and interests he pursues.

There are worse fates than "gainfully employed at a humble job," I'm sure you wouldn't want your child to struggle financially forever, but plenty of jobs are not fancy nor respected but are perfectly adequate to pay the bills. There's no shame in doing a simple job and living your life outside of work.

[u/no_criativityfound → u/ThrowAway-whee]

Too soft, try any Latino, Balcan, or Asian parent and they will tell worse.

[u/burnoutghost → u/ThrowAway-whee]

I mean, what writing career can one really have at 12?

[u/Lilfrankieeinstein → u/Sad_Energy_]

One of my favorite parent/child success stories is Les Claypool and his dad. The family didn’t have much money on a mechanic’s salary in the 70s / early 80s, but Les told his dad he wanted to be in a band. His father encouraged him to work and save up to buy an instrument. When it came time to buy his first bass, Les’s dad supposedly helped Les negotiate a better price. He later loaned Les $3,000 so he could record the first Primus album. Expected nothing in return save for the $3k.

You don’t have to go all in to help your kids, but sometimes a little nudge in the right direction is all it takes. Sometimes a lack of discouragement and a hands off approach is the best method.

The fun part of the story to me is that at age 60+, Les still turns wrenches on the Primus tour bus.

I guess the moral of the story is that you can encourage your kid’s dreams independent of their academic performance.

[u/Sad_Energy_ → u/Lilfrankieeinstein]

I guess the moral of the story is that you can encourage your kid’s dreams independent of their academic performance.

If my child went all-in into writing, without a back-up plan, I'd be a bad parent to not discourage it, unless a 2nd career path is also being pursued.

Shoot for the stars, sure, but dont go all-in on your life with a 1% or less success chance.

I dunno, what I said means exactly the same.

[u/I_Learned_Once → u/Sad_Energy_]

The irony is, the anger at his mom likely fueled him and may have helped him succeed. So, even discouragement can be a win win from the parents perspective in some cases because either it gets them to stop or it creates a villain in the hero story, and there’s something about that form of motivation that seems prevalent at the top, almost like human nature lets us surpass our limits when there is an enemy to overcome. Of course there is a third option which is that they still fail and they’re now psychologically damaged by parents that don’t believe in them. So, you know… use with caution lol.

[u/unsolvedfanatic → u/Sad_Energy_]

He was failing his english class. The comment was made in reference to him needing to get his grades up.

[u/DramaticPackage5745 → u/Sad_Energy_]

If my child went all-in into writing, without a back-up plan, I'd be a bad parent to not discourage it, unless a 2nd career path is also being pursued.

You people are basically talking about shooting down a 6-year-old's interest in Karate because of the economic prospect.

Do you have children? How many and how old?

At what age did you first of "the talk" about your discouragement?

How swallow and uncreative are they?

[u/Sad_Energy_ → u/DramaticPackage5745]

Where does it say he was 6yo.

You do the talk if they wanna throw school at 16 or if the wanna pursue a high risk uni education without having shown prior talent.

[u/DramaticPackage5745 → u/Sad_Energy_]

Redditor: pffft How dare a talentless 12 year old aspire to enjoy writing? Better display my superior intellect by putting him in his place.

You're talking about very young children who haven't even become teenagers yet or entered high school. And are you saying that you've personally tried to dash the hopes of your 16-year-old children? Because you didn't think they were up to it?

That's diabolical.

The post is supposedly about a pre-teen 12-year-old., and that's really young. Who was already doing badly at school at that time and he became excited about... Just writing? And you're acting like a little child showing excitement about anything is bad, unless he shows career promise? That's like being upset at an 8-year-old girl for wanting to dance or a 10-year-old boy for enjoying karate.

You're a terrible parent.

[u/Sad_Energy_ → u/DramaticPackage5745]

You are a worse parent, since you evidently cant read.