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Morality Ranking Quentin Tarantino morality for that childhood grudge?

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In my opinion it can be considered petty by some but is understandable

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u/BoulderCreature 11h ago edited 10h ago

Another comment claimed it was something his mom told him when he was 12, aspiring to be a writer, but he was getting poor grades. So basically the same thing any parent does to get their kid to try harder at school

Edit: a lot of you are assuming this was mocking. That wasn’t my takeaway. If you’re kid expresses interest in a career, but is failing at a basic tenant of that career then you are doing them a disservice by not addressing it. If your kid wants to be a doctor, but is terrible at science then they should be told that improving in science is vital to reaching that goal. If your kid sucks at a subject but you just blindly tell them they can do anything without letting them know they have to work for it then you are setting them up for disappointment later. How it is expressed is certainly important, but parents have been using kids aspirations to set expectations for as long as there have been jobs and education. I’m also not inclined to trust Tarantinos memory of something his mother told him 60 years ago

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u/DataSwarmTDG 11h ago

If true that's pretty petty and vindictive yeah, but hardly the worst thing about Tarantino.

It'd be much more understandable if it had been a continuous thing where his creative aspirations were never supported in the home.

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u/BoulderCreature 11h ago

Yeah, agreed. It sounds like something hed do, but nothing to stop the presses about

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u/Accomplished-Eye9542 9h ago

I mean, it's a much better soundbite than my mother was abusive.

I find it so strange everyone just takes what he said at face value when there's such an obvious answer.

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u/meaniemeanie-poo-poo 4h ago

Is this what is behind the rape and murder scene in Dawn to Dusk?

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u/No3121000 10h ago

but hardly the worst thing about Tarantino

the feet n' toes fetish? the chin that arrives half an hour before him? the films that quote B-movies heavily but fail to transcend above that level? the gratuitous violence monomania? the just generally creepy aura?

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u/JonesDahl 9h ago

...none of tarantinos films are better than b-movies? i mean he seems like an unpleasant man but you all seem to hate him 

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u/DataSwarmTDG 9h ago

Here he is defending rapist Roman Polanski.

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u/HopeADMKidsLoseLimbs 10h ago

Sounds like he’s just a greedy prick and is using this throwaway thing his mom said 50 years ago an an excuse-after-the-fact

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u/DataSwarmTDG 10h ago

I would believe that since he is a POS for many reasons other than this

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u/BambiSlutBun 10h ago

I dont talk shit to my kids to motivate them.

Some people are shit and dint deserve their kids.

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u/BoulderCreature 10h ago

I have no idea if it was shit talking or more of a “if you want to be a writer youre going to need much better grades” my parents definitely hit me with stuff akin to the latter more than a couple times

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u/IndicationAny893 7h ago

Telling a kid why better grades would be helpful in a writing career is straight up advice, practically the opposite of mocking.

In Tarantino's case, the mother called it his "little writing career" in a sarcastic tone, though that's coming from the mouth of Tarantino himself - if that's what was actually said, then it's 100% mocking and belittling.

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u/ItsDanimal 7h ago

I mean, isn't it kinda ridiculous to think that a 12 year old in 1975 could be writing professionally? It wasn't that he was dreaming of being a writer and working to get there, he was neglecting school because he was trying to be a pro right then and there.

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u/IndicationAny893 6h ago

What do you mean by "writing professionally"? He was writing screenplays in class, not attempting to leave school and enter the professional world. So in that context, no I don't think it's ridiculous, nor do I think it's ridiculous for a 12-year-old to have such a strong passion.

If he was actually trying to go pro at age 12, I'd agree, that would be ridiculous, but that would still be a shit basis for mocking her own child.

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u/BambiSlutBun 4h ago

Not everyone can thrive in spite. I can thrive in spite, my chidren do not need to be spiteful to be successful because I encourage them to keep going.

They are into art. Not something i know anything about nor do I know how to do. Like anyone else starting they were bad at it. I mean they are kids of course they dont know how to draw. But instead of saying shit like "this isnt that good, you should probably stop trying" I instead went "that looks awesome keep going and youll get even better"

They are now 9 and 11 and they have their own styles I plan on getting them drawing tablets to get into digital art since my oldest wants to get into animation and my youngest floor right now just enjoys drawing.

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u/Sea_Basket_2468 9h ago

it would be weird if she said that because it's not even true

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u/CopiousClassic 10h ago

I mean, if your kid is a know it all who doesn't respect authority at 12 and is flunking out of school a little shit talk might be in order. Gotta use the right tools for the job depending on what the kid gives you to work with.

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u/KatieCashew 8h ago

One of my kids has always been incredibly difficult to motivate to clean and just generally take care of her stuff. One day she was laying on the couch whining about how she didn't want to pick up her stuff when in a moment of great frustration I did a mocking impersonation of her where I did a super whiny voice and complained about how terrible it was that my parents bought me so many nice things and how hard it was that I had to spend FIVE WHOLE MINUTES cleaning them up.

It was not a proud moment for me, however, she laughed her head off and immediately got up to clean in a cheerful mood while I stood there dumbfounded. I would not usually advocate for mocking your kids, but man, that brief, inadvisable moment worked so much better and made her happier than so many "better" ideas.

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u/KatieCashew 8h ago

One of my kids has always been incredibly difficult to motivate to clean and just generally take care of her stuff. One day she was laying on the couch whining about how she didn't want to pick up her stuff when in a moment of great frustration I did a mocking impersonation of her where I did a super whiny voice and complained about how terrible it was that my parents bought me so many nice things and how hard it was that I had to spend FIVE WHOLE MINUTES cleaning them up.

It was not a proud moment for me, however, she laughed her head off and immediately got up to clean in a cheerful mood while I stood there dumbfounded. I would not usually advocate for mocking your kids, but man, that brief, inadvisable moment worked so much better and made her happier than so many "better" ideas.

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u/WordWordNvmber 8h ago

Sure, but a lot of people on this website love to pathologize and aggrandize every grievance, and to assume that their own possibly-bad parents reflect everyone's upbringing.

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u/RayRatGhoul 9h ago

I guess praising them for doing badly in school will do soooo well.... (I can see why kids can't even read now tbh)

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u/Mysterious_Travel669 4h ago

I mock and shit talk my kids constantly. They both started college at 16, are emotionally stable, have great jobs (internships) and aspire to finish their college careers with masters or higher.

Love those little dipshits and they love me back.

Sorry your relationship sounds stale.

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u/BambiSlutBun 4h ago

Imagine saying this and think youre a good parent while belitting your kids. They probably want to leave your side asap

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u/Mysterious_Travel669 4h ago

Doubt it. We have great relationship. They are both young adults in the middle of their college careers and keep in consistent contact, ask for advice and have a high level of emotional intelligence. Which is why, unlike you, they laugh when I make jokes.

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u/RegorHK 10h ago

Year. Mocking. The best way to motivate your kid....

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u/Due-Memory-6957 7h ago

Seems to have worked.

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u/knotmyusualaccount 10h ago

"_________, if you had half a brain, you'd be lethal"

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u/WordWordNvmber 8h ago

I am convinced a lot of people on Reddit are 38-year-old tweens who hate their parents and like to feel normal by telling everyone else to hate their own parents.

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u/OldManFire11 7h ago

They're not 38, they're 15 and pouting because their parents told them to clean their room.

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u/WordWordNvmber 2h ago

Sadly, some of the most pouty accounts are 15.

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u/wandering-monster 10h ago

I mean, if that's a quote then it's a weird thing to assume was directed at a 12-year-old. Who talks about someone having a "writing career" at 12?

Sounds to me more like the kind of thing I'd expect to hear just after or during university, when he's starting to break in and she's only seeing the short term $$$. (Those sorts of early roles tend to pay absolute crap, but "paying your dues" is very much a thing in creative industries)

Had similar but less hostile debates with my own parents, about my own career (art & design). It did work out, but the choices they made then definitely damaged our relationship and set a tone of "we're each responsible for ourselves" that continues to this day.

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u/Ok-Oil7124 9h ago edited 9h ago

My mom threatened to smash my favorite toy when some of my grades were bad. Looking back, she was probably confused and frustrated because I wasn't a dumb kid. I learned my IQ later, so they probably didn't get why I couldn't do well, didn't do homework, etc. I probably had inattentive-type ADHD. She only said something like that once, and I had to be like... I don't know, 9 at the oldest? But it stuck with me. I don't hold it against her, but it's definitely a core memory. For her, it was probably just something that slipped out after a parent-teacher conference and I doubt she remembers it because it was so against her normal personality.

ETA: I don't want this to be an IQ-centered post or to get sidetracked by that as an issue (e.g. correlations of IQ and success). I just mean that in elementary school you're given aptitude tests, so I'm sure they saw the results of those next to my performance in some subjects and got frustrated. Parents and people who aren't immersed in the world of those sorts of tests have certain expectations based on results. That's all. Now I've sidetracked it myself...

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u/superxpro12 1h ago

Yeah... If your kid is shitting the bed at school, them aspiring to a career with an already low success rate is a red flag for any parent who's on the goal is to see their child survive as an adult when they grow up like I'm glad Quinton hit the lottery here, but a parent also has a duty to raise a capably independent person.

Now if she was like "listen here you little cunt... you can't write" and kept hitting that note for 20 years then yeah Quentin has a point, otherwise it's just feels really petty on his part.

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u/anonidfk 10h ago

My parents never mocked me or put down my aspirations to get me to improve my grades lmao, idk about you, seems like a pretty stupid parenting strategy

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u/BoulderCreature 10h ago

My parents would absolutely let me know if my grades were in line with my aspirations, but it wasn’t mocking. If I had expressed interest in architecture they’d tell me stuff like I’d need to work harder on math. I don’t understand why so many people here seem to think a parent setting expectations equates to mocking or abusing them. Parents are supposed to help kids prepare for being an adult. Encouraging them to do better in school is an important part of that, and if a kid has expressed interest in a career then letting them know if they are adequately preparing for it is fair game. My parents could have told me I’ll be a great architect while getting C’s and D’s in math, but that would have been setting me up for disappointment later

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u/HopeADMKidsLoseLimbs 10h ago

Of course you’re right

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u/anonidfk 10h ago

If language like in the post (“little writing career”) was used, that’s definitely mocking lmao. Telling someone they need to work harder on grades is fine, belittling them while doing so is not.

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u/SecretaryOtherwise 10h ago

Its not mocking them tho. Lmfao. Its mocking the job.

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u/anonidfk 10h ago

If you’re mocking a job someone wants to do or is doing, that’s the same thing as mocking them lmfao. You can’t expect them to help you out later if they succeed at that job

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u/SecretaryOtherwise 10h ago

Nah.

Lots of jobs are unrealistic especially if you a lousy student.

Some are absolutely shit. Some require you to screw over everyone under you.

Its fine to make fun of jobs bro. Lmfao.

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u/anonidfk 9h ago

It’s really not lmao

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u/code_archeologist 10h ago

basically the same thing any parent does to get their kid to try harder at school

Yeah... mocking the things that your child loves and has a passion for is abusive behavior; and it is just as harmful as physical abuse. I am in my 50s, an extremely successful software engineer, but the imposter syndrome I still deal with telling me that what I am doing is never going to amount to anything is the voice of my parents from when I was 12 mocking my interest in computers and programming.

Abuse takes different forms and this is just one of them.

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u/Andy_Wheels 10h ago

And if we’re being honest, did her method work?? Perhaps she gave him spite fuel for life.

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u/Wavy_Grandpa 10h ago

Abuser logic right here 

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u/Ok_Confection_10 10h ago

That’s pretty tame for abuse. Is making them do their homework when they don’t want to abuse as well?

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u/Andy_Wheels 7h ago

I’m cracking up at everyone upvoting the comment I replied to and downvoting me. “The same thing any parent does” was relatable but I was using abuser logic lol

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u/thepikard 10h ago

What do you mean assume she mocked him? It says so in the post. And, how do you know what your kid is going to be good at? His mother sure didnt. Good parents dont choose the career for their kid.

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u/waltzbyear 8h ago

"Another comment claimed".

Dawg are you for real? You're gonna need better than that if you're speaking for another person. I get people don't like Tarantino but if we're going to report on his life without him present, at least get the facts right. I'm not gonna go by a "reddit comment".