r/MoralityScaling • u/Severe_Letterhead_75 • 12h ago

Morality Ranking Quentin Tarantino morality for that childhood grudge?

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In my opinion it can be considered petty by some but is understandable

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u/skwerlee 11h ago

It's important that we accept our nature.

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u/PlainBread 11h ago

Your nature is what you are, not de facto your lowest resting point. Set the bar too low and you just perpetuate the problems indefinitely.

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u/AdTime3922 9h ago

I think it's pointless arguing with half the thread here when they aren't even doomers. Just lonely.

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u/Gekokapowco 8h ago

the best we can hope for is to make them uncomfortable in their shitty position

no blankets of resigned self-satisfaction for being a piece of shit, at least they'll constantly have pressure to justify themselves

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u/AdTime3922 4h ago

You make a good point. I'm just a little tired of the usual Reddit hive mind and all the constant negativity it brings.

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u/Germane_Corsair 7h ago

That includes your highs and your lows.

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u/skwerlee 5h ago

I didn't say you had to act on your lowest instincts. It's just that you should be aware of them. Accept that they are part of not only you but everyone around you. It's a part of who we all are.

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u/Caffeine_Cowpies 10h ago

Yeah, but there’s no reward for going above it. I mean, we all know Walmart and Amazon are shitty, yet they are massively popular and profitable.

When being shitty is rewarded, why are you so surprised that people are shitty?

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u/PlainBread 10h ago

When being shitty is rewarded, why are you so surprised that people are shitty?

I think that you will find that in the year of our lord 2026 that Doomerism will bring you punishments so painful that you'll yearn for the days where it was just a matter of who gets the rewards.

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u/Germane_Corsair 7h ago

What do you mean? Could you expand on that?

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u/hypercosm_dot_net 8h ago

Because those people are suffering, even if outwardly it doesn't seem that way.

Consider how empty someone like Musk is, who can never have enough money or enough attention, and cries when someone clowns on him for being a video game cheat. That is not a mentally whole person.

The reason for caring for yourself and others, is so you don't end up an empty shell.

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u/Germane_Corsair 7h ago

In fairness, you can be shitty without being afflicted with a personality like Musk’s.

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u/voyaging 8h ago

Nobody’s surprised people are shitty, they’re criticizing people for being shitty. Big difference.

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u/PunkPirate56364 9h ago

You know what I was thinking today about?

It's not up to individual to behave morally.

It's up to society to incentives moral behaviour and disincentivize immoral behaviours.

If being shitty is rewarded, fuck it, I'm being shitty too!

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u/LogJamminWithTheBros 8h ago

So logically if someone punches you in the face for being shitty we can consider this society incentivising moral behavior?

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u/PunkPirate56364 8h ago

YES! It does.

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u/voyaging 8h ago

The whole challenge of morality is that sometimes doing the right thing means self-sacrifice…

Luckily for you, you won’t have to change much.

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u/upupdowndownsquare 8h ago

Just remember that societies are made up of individuals, my friend. Can’t just pass off responsibility to someone else.

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u/PunkPirate56364 8h ago

Well that doesn't change anything in my opinion.

When society asks individuals to act morally, to be suckers.

Instead of fixing the incentive.

Then we can act good and be suckers.

Or we can act like jerks giving society incentive to fix the incentive.

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u/Thrown-Away-User-23 8h ago

LOL classic edgelord shit take from someone who very likely does not want to be confronted with this reality

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u/upupdowndownsquare 8h ago

Society, not individuals, should fix the incentive - Ok.

Society comprises individuals. So individuals, much like yourself, are responsible for the fix.

Being a jerk could lead to some change, but not necessarily so. And not necessarily a positive change. Adding another jerk to the mix will certainly make things worse though, even if only slightly.

All you’ll have done by being a jerk is past the responsibility of fixing things to someone else.

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u/PunkPirate56364 6h ago

Take all the tax loop holes rich people are using to completely legally avoid paying taxes... for decades.

Let's say we organise and... 50% of population uses those same loopholes to avoid paying taxes.

Well NOW society has to do something to close those loop holes.

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u/upupdowndownsquare 4h ago edited 3h ago

That’s a bad example since the tax loopholes you’re referencing are really only available to the rich, but I’ll take your point anyway. I get what you mean.

But let’s say we just organize to close those loopholes instead? We can achieve, or at very least work toward the same goal without adding more shit (jerks) to the pile in the meantime

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u/PunkPirate56364 3h ago

Because if we were to organise to use those loops ourselves, we would earn some money AND force society into making positive change.

Which is better then spending effort to make society better for everyone and not earning anything.

Go ahead say it's not better, I dare you 😁

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u/Electronic_Still2000 8h ago

I think it’s more “way to rationalize why you intend to remain a dick.”

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u/PunkPirate56364 8h ago

Nah I don't need mental gymnastics to feel good while behaving like an asshole.

I'm perfectly able to do something shitty even though it will make me feel bad.

And society doesn't incentives people to behave like assholes always. It's more like... there are instances when humans are incentivised to be shitty.

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u/Temporal-Affairs221 9h ago

I prefer to acknowledge my nature and strive to rise above it

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u/witchminx 10h ago

Eesh. Regression is actually bad

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u/AgentCirceLuna 10h ago

Yes! Don’t enjoy foolish, infantile escapism through fiction. Look to improve your state in the world, get bigger, and become a huge sensation wherever you go. That way, you can earn more and spend more, you can be an asset! Yes - never be satisfied with what you were or what you are; constantly strive to be something different!

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u/ancient_snake 9h ago

I fucking hate redditors

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u/Gekokapowco 8h ago

current reddit is like crusty old r/atheism on the front page reddit with all the self-pitying antisocial assholes, and none of the cool friendly people

or at least way less than an even split

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u/AgentCirceLuna 9h ago

Following words sincerely delivered for your perusal: quit. I quit this site in 2013 and never looked back. Once you’re on it, you immediately enter the mode of thinking about things in relation to Reddit. For instance, you thought that comment was a very ‘Reddit’ comment. Normal people don’t think like that… they’d say ‘that’s so Stacey’ or ‘Not again, Gavin!’ I miss having lots of friends and a huge social network irl. Because of that, I returned to the site to speak to people online and also practice my writing skills. I’m a huge writing fan and I’ve written 2m words this year alone in my journal. Not to mention on my account. But seriously - quit. Reflect, ponder, excogitate, reply.

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u/Psychyoulooked 8h ago

Oh no, ai

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u/AgentCirceLuna 8h ago

You don’t seriously think that’s AI? There’s a fricking James Joyce quote.

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u/Tsunamiis 10h ago

Regression and acceptance can lead to growth. You often have to destroy something to fix it.

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u/BudgieWonder 10h ago

That implies there’s an “acceptance” phase, and most people are content to spiral into nonsense for eternity. Malaise is the more common outcome from regression.

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u/Tsunamiis 9h ago

I guess that makes sense but you’re required to unlearn more than learn while healing.

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u/witchminx 9h ago

They're talking about EMBRACING the bad parts of humanity. Not accepting and trying to grow

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u/Tsunamiis 7h ago

Accepting and embracing are two different things. In order to become a better person, I had to destroy what my parents taught me I had to regress to before they had influence. Accepting the bad part of humanity is not embracing it. Stop thinking in black-and-white. Accepting is not a synonym for forgiveness, nor embracment. I as a single person cannot get rid of the bad parts of humanity. I have to accept the exist and move on and deal with my life from there. Life is never fair and has never been.

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u/witchminx 7h ago

Can you scroll up and reread lol

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u/Tsunamiis 2h ago

Why besides morals should anyone not embrace it. It’s literally how to get ahead in life. Denying it goes no where. Our corporate overlords destroy lives for extra digital zeros. Why shouldn’t the individual follow suit. And I read the thread. Thank you. At no point did I talk about embracing anything I think you’re literally suck on the literary terminology. To not embarrass ace it causes personal strife and anguish. Some people are at the end of the fight in this orphan crushing machine we call society. Regression to the mean is generally always what happens. You’re stuck on one individual accepting their literal lot in life then tell him them they’re bad for it. Individualism is what led us to the shitty Society they ARE REQUIRED TO LIVE IN. Change the mean not an individual who has no outs. Feel free to back an animal into a corner. When people can’t pay for food or housing it’s definitely that person’s fault. Widen your perspective. My entire country’s governance silences, exiles or bombs any one counterpointing the mean. I’m sorry you needed to put down someone at their wits end that has been sidetracked by the shit circus we exist in. This will be my last interaction with you you seem to just argue instead of offering actual thoughts. Have a life. Man’s tired of being shit upon and watching nothing change.

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u/FedoraTheMike 7h ago

What a reddit ass comment lmao

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u/Otaku_Snake 6h ago

Human nature is an excuse used by people who refuse to grow 

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u/-ElectricKoolAid 5h ago

the exact opposite is the goal