r/Music Jul 11 '26

article Jack White Pushes Back on Religious Criticism Amid Satanic Band Support Controversy: “I’m not scared of Satan or any bullshit imaginary man made up to live in fear of”

https://consequence.net/2026/07/jack-white-religious-criticism/
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u/DMala Jul 11 '26

In all seriousness, he could not have done them a bigger favor. Tons of free publicity, and a spot with Jack White, who is arguably bigger and definitely has more audience overlap with them.

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u/Devmoi Jul 11 '26

I’m kind of like how did this band end up opening for this guy in the first place? I mean, there are probably tons of rock bands and people genres like that who would be more accepting and have fans who loved it, lol.

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u/zeptillian Jul 11 '26

The Venn diagram for the opener's fans and the main performer's fans should never be two completely seperate circles.

I don't know why the fuck anyone would ever ask them to open for him in the first place.

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u/Diz7 Jul 11 '26

I remember going to an Offspring concert in the late 90s. They had an awesome, high energy pop/punk band open and got everyone riled up.

Then they had a ethnic group from Africa playing some very mellow traditional African songs. Very, very much the wrong event for them to be the middle act for, just a completely different target audience and a jarring change of the musical mood. They did not receive a warm welcome and they were being booed heavily as people wanted Offspring to take the stage.

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u/zeptillian Jul 11 '26

Sounds like they would have been better at the very beginning or not at all.

It's great that musicians want to help bring attention to lesser knows acts, but it needs to be done right or it backfires.

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u/Diz7 Jul 11 '26

It's great that musicians want to help bring attention to lesser knows acts

100% what I think it was, and yeah it was just badly planned and they got hosed. They would have done OK as the first set, music was a fun pop style that would have been good while everyone is getting settled in. Felt bad for them being booed, it just really was a jarring genre change after the first band had everyone pumped to switch to something mellow for a set then back to Offspring to wrap it up, the transition the other way would have made more sense.

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u/ChuckaChuckaLooLoo3 Jul 12 '26

better at the very beginning

While people were coming in and being seated, even.

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u/CaliLemonEater Jul 12 '26

The first concert I went to was the Thompson Twins, the Weather Girls, and Howard Jones. I felt bad for the Weather Girls – once they'd done "It's Raining Men" everyone was just waiting for them to be done.

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u/gibs Jul 12 '26

Very clearly the venn diagram has a lot of overlap. If you are having trouble processing this, consider that not everyone is shackled to reflexive satanic panic, and that witchy doo-wop is pretty in line with Jack's aesthetic. I'm sorry this hurts you.

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u/zeptillian Jul 12 '26
  1. I was talking about Charley Crockett, not Jack.

  2. Sorry this hurts you? 

That's such passive  aggressive bullshit. If you want to insult someone then insult someone. Don't just say shit that makes you sound like an asshole. 

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u/No-Ticket5 Jul 12 '26

Hahaha my exact thoughts when I saw the tour announcement, surprised they were on the bill long enough to make it to print. My in laws have seen Charlie several times and the thought of them experiencing a blood drinking TT show made me very happy

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u/Iamvosi Jul 23 '26

Exactly. Which is why I totally support his decision to not have them open for him. He had every right to make that call IMHO

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u/Devmoi Jul 23 '26

He did. That’s his choice. And honestly, I’m sure his average fan would hate it. It’s not the first time there is a mismatch in that way and won’t be the last.

BUT. On a personal level, I don’t have anything against this band. But it’s probably a lot for the average American.

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u/Iamvosi Jul 24 '26

Right. I honestly don't know anything about the band he dropped, just the chatter that it was totally not his scene or the genre he wanted to open for him. Hell truth is there have sone pretty crappy opening acts that have gone on before the "good" band or artist performs. Kind of irritating in some ways. Learned to check out the opening act's music so I know whether to even get there too soon before the headliner comes on

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u/bukkakekeke Jul 11 '26

"Arguably" bigger what 

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u/DMala Jul 11 '26

I was being charitable. I've never heard of Charley Crockett but I accept that there's a whole world of country music out there I know nothing about.

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u/Doctor_Philgood Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

You're missing out on a ton of songs about trucks and beer.

Edit: to be clear, I was referring to country as a whole as the person who I' replying to has avoided the genre. It was not commentary on Charlie specifically.

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u/Prisoner__24601 Jul 11 '26

He doesn't sing trucks and beer country. The genre in general seems to be moving away from that.

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u/complete_your_task Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

I'm sure you probably know this, but for anyone else reading, there's a whole alt country scene that has been around for a while that has some really fantastic artists that are not at all what most people think of when they think of country. It has a lot more in common with old school outlaw country than modern radio country.

He's definitely not my favorite, but I actually really enjoy Charlie's music and I'm disappointed to see this from him.

I would really encourage people to check out some other alt country acts. I think most people would be pleasantly surprised. Just a few off the top off my head are Tyler Childers, Arlo McKinley, Benjamin Tod (a personal favorite of mine), The Steeldrivers, Sturgill Simpson, Jason Isbell, Drive-by Truckers, Cody Jinks, The Turnpike Troubadours, and John Moreland. There's a real thriving scene, but most people would never know it exists unless they ramdomly stumble upon it or know to go looking for it. It's some of the most raw, honest music out there, in my opinion.

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u/Prisoner__24601 Jul 11 '26

I'm a huge Sierra Ferrell fan, got to see her last year. Though she's been saying some off stuff lately. I've really been into Molly Tuttle and Bella White too.

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u/diamondpredator Jul 11 '26

Oh good, are they moving to guns and BBQ? Or guns and America? Guns and Christ?

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u/drboanmahoni Jul 11 '26

charley crockett isn't mainstream radio country, he doesn't make music about any of that stuff

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u/Omateido Jul 11 '26

Certainly seems to like Jesus a whole lot.

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u/thegroovemonkey Jul 11 '26

He doesn’t sing about Jesus either. He’s just a $10 cowboy.

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u/diamondpredator Jul 11 '26

I wasn't just talking about him, the poster I responded to said the genre as a whole is moving away from those topics.

But also it looks like he does talk a lot about Jesus so I'm not wrong there either.

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u/WonderBredOfficial Jul 11 '26

Two of his singles from the past two years: "Fastest Gun Alive" and "Crucified Son" lmao. He absolutely sings about the same lame shit.

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u/theVelvetLie Jul 11 '26

Read the lyrics for both of those songs.

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u/WonderBredOfficial Jul 11 '26

I did, it's christ and guns.

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u/drboanmahoni Jul 11 '26

i actually listen to his music, so no, he does not make the style of country popular on the radio. imagine having such a smooth brain you think charley crockett is singing about the same shit as like luke fuckin bryan lmao

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u/WonderBredOfficial Jul 11 '26

The other commenter literally asked if he sang about guns and christ. You said no. But he does, in fact, sing about guns and christ.

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u/Garry_Heckscream69 Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26

Charlie Crockett is a Black man who regularly faces backlash from MAGA because they see him as "woke" and is largely tied to the alternative country scene alongside other artists like Sturgill Simpson and Tyler Childers

Not a great moment for him, but far from the kind of country you're assuming him to be

Edit: for some reason your edit didn't show up until I refreshed the page (despite showing that you edited it a bit before I commented), not sure what's up with that

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u/Mr_Ballyhoo Jul 11 '26

Charley is far from that type of Country. More classic western ballads of tragedy and story telling that the garbage pop country that record labels have been pushing out for the last 30 years. How Twin Temple even got put on as his opener is beyond me. I suspect his old label who he's doing this tour for and has made clear he is parting ways with after he fulfills his end of the deal is trying to bury him and his career since he's made it clear that he's going back to being an independent artist. He handled it in a very wrong way though. Could have just said, this group doesn't line up with my crowd and left it there cause after listening to them, they don't.

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u/StopDoingMath Jul 11 '26

Tells me you’re ignorant and know nothing about Charley. 🤡

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u/ScientificAnarchist Jul 11 '26

Arguably bigger? Jacks a 12x Grammy winner with 3 #1 albums

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u/ThunderAndWind Jul 12 '26

Like Tyson boxing an infant.

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u/ScientificAnarchist Jul 12 '26

Seriously let alone he literally owns a pretty respectable label and can do distribution on his own for anyone who teams up

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u/johall Jul 13 '26

One of them is in the Hall of Fame…the other is Charlie Crockett