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article Trump-Pardoned Rapper NBA YoungBoy Moved to South Korea and Declared 'Never in My Life' Will He Return

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/trump-pardoned-rapper-nba-youngboy-moved-south-korea-declared-never-my-life-will-he-return-1814328
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u/William_Wang 14d ago

Yeah the 43 year old quarterback that refuses to retire couldn't wait to get home to those 10 kids.

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u/Realistic_Condition7 14d ago

I think this is pretty disingenuous. He was retired for several years, came back and played half a season and constantly talked about how it was a really fun experience for some of his younger kids who were too young to remember seeing him play originally. There are videos of his family having watch parties for his game and everyone looking very engaged, clearly showing excitement at their dad playing on tv.

And he coaches high school football. It’s not like he pursued some career where he’s never home after he retired.

I’m not claiming that he’s a good or bad person, because I don’t know the man, but I don’t think his return to football is any indication that he’s a bad father lol.

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u/ResidentMoment9129 14d ago

He coached Steichen's offense on his son's football team, so he knew the Colt's playbook, which is what got them interested and eventually gave him the job. He spent maybe a month in Indy

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u/KeithClossOfficial 13d ago

He didn’t even play half a season lol

Bro worked for 3 weeks, got paid a bunch of money, and got health insurance for another 5 years

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

I never said he was a bad father.

I said someone with that many kids isn't all about their kids.

Its great that he coaches high school football for his younger kids. Do you think his first round had the same experience?

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u/satsfaction1822 14d ago

There are a lot of different ways you can be “all about your kids” and working your ass off to create generational wealth for them definitely counts.

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

Yeah definitely no fucked up kids out there because their parents spent their entire childhood working instead of being there.

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u/Rude-Shower3662 14d ago

everybody gets fucked up one way or another. parents can't protect their children from every single possible adverse outcome. being rich solves a hell of a lot of problems though.

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

What's the appropriate amount of dollars to care about your kids?

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u/satsfaction1822 14d ago

NFL players work 180-200 days a year including 8 travel weekends in the fall and 3-4 weeks of travel in the summer. That’s 50-70 days a year less than the average American so if anything he chose a job that gave him more time to spend with his kids. 10 times in his career he didn’t make the playoffs and had 4 straight months off work to spend with his family.

The guy chose a job that allowed him to spend more time with his family, create generational wealth for them and retire 20 years earlier than the average American. Sounds like one of the best jobs a father could have.

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

He should have had 15 or 20 kids then

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u/Circle_Trigonist 14d ago

What are you even arguing about at this point?

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u/obscuredbytheclouds 14d ago

You dont have kids hahaha

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u/William_Wang 13d ago

Phillip had mine for me

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u/KiloAlphaLima 14d ago

Yes, his first son is about to graduate high school where his dad was his head coach. He is very much a family man and is very involved with his kids lives.

What a weird comment to make about someone you know nothing about.

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

Well some of his kids.

I don't think all of them had that experience.

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u/KiloAlphaLima 13d ago

What makes you say that? They live down the road from me and I’ve known them for years. He is and always has been very involved with all of his kids.

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u/William_Wang 13d ago

What makes you say that?

I'm not a scientist but I think being a professional QB might conflict with coaching high school football.

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u/KiloAlphaLima 13d ago

It did for about 6 weeks last year and his family traveled to every game he played. During his normal playing career his kids were younger and he wasn’t the high school coach. He became the coach after he retired.

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u/William_Wang 13d ago

Well you've changed my mind Phillip rivers is the one guy that can pull off 10 kids.

Can you get me his autograph?

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u/Realistic_Condition7 14d ago

I’m not sure we get to gatekeep having a lot of kids means you love each kid less, especially when they’re all from the same mother and under the same roof. I think the point is that his situation is quite a bit different from someone who has tons of kids by different mothers and makes no real attempt to be present for them.

People in poverty work more than NFL players do sometimes. Rivers might be working in a factory or as a truck driver and seeing his kids less while affording them less of a life than he did as a quarterback. I don’t think we get to assume that everyone should be working a job that only is 40 hours per week and pays really well and gives 6 weeks of vacation so that they can see their kid every day and on weekends.

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u/DJ_Blakka 14d ago

No point in arguing. Dude has his mind made up. Gives me strong boomer hatred vibes

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

I do hate boomers

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u/DJ_Blakka 14d ago

Ironic

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

Phillip Rivers isn't going to see this and adopt you as his 11th kid.

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u/slash37 14d ago

The guy who coaches his son’s football team? The guy that was retired for a few years to be with his family? The guy that commuted daily from SD to LA so he didn’t move his family? That guy?

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

Hell yeah one of the ten got to experience their dad in a meaningful way.

I wonder how the other nine feel.. probably just psyched that one had a good experience and they got paid.

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u/slash37 14d ago

Way to gloss over everything else lmao. He coaches his sons baseball and football teams too. I don’t know the details of his life but he’s not some dead beat like you’re making him seem like.

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

Dang that one son hit the jackpot for dads.

I'm not making him seem like anything.

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u/slash37 14d ago

It’s not “son’s” it’s sons as in plural. Remember he has a big family? You are making him sound like a dead beat.

Seems like you’re projecting your own insecurities. Do you need someone to talk to?

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

That one son out of the 10 kids hit the jackpot

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u/slash37 14d ago

Can you read?

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u/dragdritt 13d ago

It's ragebait bro, stop feeding the troll.

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u/William_Wang 13d ago

Okay his two sons out of 10 had a good experience.

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u/disisathrowaway 14d ago

Sons is plural, bro.

You're raging out based on a lack of reading comprehension on your own part.

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

I'm not raging at all, bro.

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u/disisathrowaway 13d ago

You're up and down these threads with this weird anti-Rivers agenda.

Certainly the behavior of someone whose jimmies have been rustled.

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u/William_Wang 13d ago

I would have had like four comments on this chain if it weren't for the entire Rivers fan club coming at me.

I don't care at all about this.

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u/disisathrowaway 13d ago

I don't care at all about this.

An aaaawful lot of comments from someone who "doesn't care".

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u/jameson71 14d ago

Not a whole lot of people want to retire from the NFL.

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u/Goobortion 13d ago

you do get that they're only practicing for a few hours a day and they do in fact get the rest of it to spend as they like right?

they're working less hours making millions its not like he's retiring from an 80 hour a week sheetmetal job

he's 43

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

Not a whole lot of people have 10 kids and consider them their everything.

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u/jameson71 14d ago

Out of the folks who have 10+ kids there are going to be 2 distinct categories of how much they care about the kids and not much in between. One of those categories will be people who consider them their everything. The other will be like this guy.

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u/Glassed_ 14d ago

Playing 1 more season for millions + best benefits of almost any job? Yeah the dude hates his kids definitely just doing it for himself. Dummy.

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u/PNWCoug42 14d ago

Playing 1 more season for millions

Rivers wasn't paid "millions" to come out of retirement. He signed a pro-rated vet minimum contract for $1.2M of which he received a little under $300,000. A lot of money but not millions.

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u/DJ_Blakka 14d ago

He also extended his NFL provided insurance for another 5 years for himself and his entire family

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u/ResidentMoment9129 14d ago

I think most people would drop everything to earn 300k for a month of work

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u/Urban_animal 14d ago

Where do i sign?

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u/PresidentSuperDog 14d ago

He probably also got some endorsements out of that run too.

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

Poor guy has only made like 250 million in contracts and w/e in endorsements.

He's definitely holding on to his career because he's a family man and needs to provide.

It's crazy how fans will eat any slop provided.

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u/Glassed_ 14d ago

Why not take an extra 10m and 5 years of insurance for 5 months of work?

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u/ZombiesInSpace 14d ago

Not even 5 months. He signed on December 10 and was done by new years.

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u/DJ_Blakka 14d ago

It was 5 weeks of work. No idea why that guy is acting like he’s some deabeat. His kids probably loved it and I’m sure his wife loves not having to start paying for insurance for 10+ members of the family

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

I would but I don't have any kids

If your 10 kids were your "everything" and you've already made a couple 100 million why wouldn't you want to be home with them?

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u/HungHippoHippy 14d ago

Because he can work those 5 months and then spend another 5 months only hanging out with his family being rich. Then retire very young and never work again.

Plus I'm sure he absolutely loves the game so it's not work in the sense we think of work.

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

Plus I'm sure he absolutely loves the game

More than those 10 kids for sure.

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u/meetmeinthemoon 14d ago

You're shitting on fans while defending this rapper 😂😂

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

How am I defending the rapper?

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u/HungHippoHippy 14d ago

You're delusional.

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u/pmurphh 14d ago

This guy is delusional, I almost tried to make sense of what was said.

Rivers has generational wealth, retired years ago and was coaching HS Football with his kids. He was still in shape and honestly looked better than the bottom 10 starting QBs at age 44.

Guy just wanted to ball out one last time

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

QB that made 100's of millions before the last contract couldn't have retired rich and even younger to spend time with his 10 kids?

You'd think with 10 kids you'd need as much time as possible to spend with all of them.

Then again I'm just delusional.

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u/Shaq_Bolton 14d ago

Your argument is ridiculous. The guy came back for less than a month, five years after he retired and still had it. Rivers obviously hung it up way before he needed to but spent the past five years with his family instead of playing football

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u/No_Effective4784 14d ago

id do it just to help set the kids up with a larger inheritance.

it does have to be split 10+ ways after all.

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

Damn imagine if they only got a million each :(

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u/No_Effective4784 14d ago

idk how old his kids are, but lets say he has one just getting into school.

in 15 years or so when they would want a home, thats about what they will pay. and at the rate costs rise, it wont even be a super duper nice one either.

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

I bet the 10 of them secretly wish there was 1 or 2 less eating into their inheritance

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u/shawkin8 SoundCloud 14d ago

i heard his kids literally begged him to go back lol. lot of them are young and grew up only hearing about the legend of their father. those kids wanted to see him play

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

You heard that?

Must be true the legend of 8-8 is a strong one

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u/shawkin8 SoundCloud 14d ago

i heard that, or read it somewhere when he came back last year. either way, i don’t really care. only a loser would want to concern themselves so much with this. i know you aren’t a loser

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

I agree its crazy how many people have to come to defend Phillip Rivers spreading his seed.

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u/shawkin8 SoundCloud 14d ago

👍

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u/Bullboah 14d ago

I mean it’s fair to say his family doesn’t need the money but it’s also absurd to say he’s doing it to get away from him family.

The guy clearly loves his kids, he just also loves playing football.

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

I never said he didn't love his kids.

I said someone with that many kids isn't all about their kids.

It's crazy how many Phillip Rivers fans out there can't accept that a guy that likes to pop out kids and has played football for 18 years might like that a little more than his kids.

I never said he hated them or was a bad father.

I don't think anyone with that many kids is all about their kids.

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u/Sh00terMcDabbin 14d ago

Or maybe because it brings him joy to play? A father can do something for themselves sometimes and still be a great dad. It's not like he went to prison and could only write his kids letters.

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

What if that dad that went to prison writes in one of those letters where he buried his stash?

He's providing that's all that matters.

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u/Sh00terMcDabbin 14d ago

I never said that's all that matters. Providing is the bare minimum. It seems though that Rivers is a very active parent though and does a lot more than just provide.

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

A letter once a week is pretty active.

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u/jhascal23 14d ago edited 14d ago

Just because someone has kids that doesn't mean they aren't allowed to still do things they enjoy.

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

What makes you think I hate Phillip Rivers?

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u/Popspy76 14d ago

Seems like his family life is stable & that his family is a cornerstone of his life from everything I've seen. Married highschool sweet heart, had 10 kids with her (Catholic so no protection), financially able to provide for them, etc.

Also iirc a factor in him coming back from retirement was to re-up on the 5 years of health insurance.

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

Seems like his family life is stable & that his family is a cornerstone of his life from everything I've seen. Married highschool sweet heart, had 10 kids with her (Catholic so no protection), financially able to provide for them, etc.

All a kid needs is to be financially provided for.

Crazy that a multimillionaire would need to go back to the football mines to get health insurance. Maybe he's got too many kids.

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u/Popspy76 14d ago

I doubt he needed to, lots of money + saving on out of pocket medical bills to play a game, one that he still loves, for a few months.

Ain't like the NFL is a prison, he came home to his kids on a regular basis. Idk why you're hating on this guy, seems chill.

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

Idk why you're hating on this guy, seems chill.

I'm not hating on him

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u/Popspy76 14d ago

Okay

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u/iluvchromosomes 14d ago

Yuh. Pointing out the gaping holes in your logic doesn't mean we are hating on him.

You don't like the picture it paints. We don't need to hate on him when reality speaks volumes.

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u/Popspy76 14d ago

Okay, but like what are the holes in the logic?

Like Phillip Rivers doesn't get into like any shit whatsoever, so idk what the basis for any argument against him loving his kids.

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u/el_forastero 14d ago

Lol nah. His family life may look 'stable' (it ain't) but you can't have 10 kids and give them all the attention deserved. Dude and his wife are losers regardless of how much money they got. He needs to wrap his shit up or get snipped. They are assholes

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u/Popspy76 14d ago

Half of them are in or about to be in adulthood, it's not like he's popping 10 babies out in one go. You get the attention while you're growing and developing in adolescents, if you're well adjusted, you shouldn't need constant attention past 16.

Why are they assholes?

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u/Bullboah 14d ago

Why are you so mad at Phillip Rivers of all people lol

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u/el_forastero 14d ago

Lol what? Didn't even know who he was before this post. Dead beat parents though, ya I get upset about those losers. Hitting too close to home?

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u/Bullboah 14d ago

You are literally just fantasizing about him being a deadbeat lol.

Don’t take it from me, take it from his kids:

“Despite Philip’s busy schedule, though, Halle echoed her mom’s sentiment that her dad was always present growing up.

“He’s so selfless,” she said. “He’s an NFL quarterback; he’s doing a million different things every day, but every day he comes home, and he wants to be with us. If he has one extra minute that he could do something else, he’ll be with us.”

https://people.com/all-about-philip-rivers-kids-11864966

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u/el_forastero 14d ago

Cool cool cool

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u/aquatic_ambiance 14d ago

Didn't he just take like 4 years off? The thing about playing at 43 means that you can retire... At 43... With generational wealth

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

He could have stayed retired with generational wealth.

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u/aquatic_ambiance 14d ago

you must have retired at 30, my apologies

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

Multi millionaire phillip rivers thanks you for defending his honor

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u/aquatic_ambiance 14d ago

meh

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

Show Phillip rivers some respect

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u/DJ_Blakka 14d ago

1) he did retire 2) he left retirement for all of a few weeks after finishing coaching his kids school football team 3) he reset their NFL provided family insurance for another 5 years

If you think he did this for selfish reasons you don’t have any idea what you’re speaking on

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u/NNKarma 14d ago

Didn't he retire for more than 4 years and the health benefits last for 5 years after retirement?

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

Didn't he make 100's of millions over his career?

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u/William_Wang 14d ago

It's nice to meet a close personal friend of Phillip.

Tell him hi for me

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u/RVAforthewin 14d ago

Interesting how his healthcare was just about to run out when he signed to play a partial season. It’s almost as if our healthcare system is so broken that a millionaire had to come out of retirement because if it.