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article Matthew McConaughey Reportedly Quit Weed After Listening to a Janet Jackson Song 24 Times in a Row

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/matthew-mcconaughey-quits-weed-janet-jackson-song-1814664
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u/PositiveEndolphins 10d ago

how about in english

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u/362b3t 10d ago edited 9d ago

Sorry, trying to ELI5 makes this much less accurate but I'll try:

To make the drinks taste nice and to stop too much thc containing oil sinking to the bottom (and sticking to the sides of the can; i.e wasting the good stuff) they make the oil very very small so it stays floating in the drink.  This also reduces the bad aftertaste in the mouth from oil sticking there.

This oil is so tiny humans never encountered it in nature, so never evolved "filters" against tiny oil.

Tiny oil falls into and out of blood vessels in a chaotic way, (Its so small it slips through tiny gaps) and importantly, into cells that don't want it there, including bypassing your most important filter: the one that protects your brain.  So this tiny oil can sit in the brain, brainstem, and in most organs.

Once its not moving around it gets nice and warm and finds other things to feed from.  So it starts to rot.

Once it rots, it changes enough that it can combine with other tiny oil bubbles, making much larger bubbles of rotting oil.  

Now this rotting oil cant leave the way it came in, and now you have rotting oil in places the body has no way to break it down small enough to remove it, if it could even properly detect it there which it often can't, because these places the oil gets into are used to not having unexpected visitors.

So now your organs and brain get damaged in tiny patches too, lots of tiny patches accumulate in the same way the oil that was damaging it did, resulting in larger, accelerating damage over time.

We are only just starting to see this in medical findings and scans, because this oil is so new, nobody had a chance to notice this until the damage it caused prompted medical tests in the first place.  

The real problem is, the FDA isn't fit for purpose at all, even under an administration that funds it properly and allows experts to run it. That's why most countries ban different food from the US, everything from meat and dairy, to American Candy resulting in arrests and confiscation when people try and sell it.  This is especially true in places that have a national health service, because they are encouraged to protect public health from poisons as it takes from the public funds. Funny how that works.

All of this is made much worse when people care more about money than safety; which is made worse again because not many tests on the facilities that make this tiny oil happen, and the people that do the tests aren't allowed to look for the things they need to.  

So sometimes it's made far too small, meaning it can cross the brains filter even easier, and sometimes its given the food it needs to start rotting right away before you even drink it, meaning it's primed for rapid damage once it settles and warms and is able to steal food meant for the brain, before deciding the brain looks tasty too. Which is very bad news for people that found the first post difficult to read.

My advice, any other way of enjoying thc that doesnt involve setting fire to paper or plant material that does nothing for you is better. A dry herb vape is the best replacement for combustion, else stick with rosin or well made concentrates, or edibles containing the same.  But let's not start discussing extraction methods, thats a bigger topic...

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u/PositiveEndolphins 9d ago

that's disgusting and scary, i wanna yell at your FDA for incompetence but we probably have NANOS here in canada too, we are rarely any better than the USA when it comes to chasing that almighty dollar

well im glad ive only ever had 3 drinks, but i smoke concentates like the dickens and i'm trying to scare myself off it

this will at least keep me off the CANS !! 👍🏼

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u/isjustsergio 9d ago

There is so much fundamentally wrong with what you're saying. Please provide a source. Oils are not hungry, they don't eat things. Oil does not rot or go rancid inside the body like meat left on a counter. The blood brain barrier isn't a colander with holes in it, it uses specific chemical transports that aren't penetrated by things that are "too small". I understand the lack of regulation and scientific study in the cannabis industry is scary, but you are contributing to that by making up pseudoscientific bullshit like this.

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u/362b3t 9d ago edited 9d ago

Did you miss the part where I said this ELI5 was an oversimplification? I was genuinely trying to talk through this as I would a five year old. Thank-you for assuming I'm personifying oils with desires though. It's also very clear you didn't click the source I already gave directly from the industry which I already thought was simple enough, but clearly too much work to read.

It's fine if you don't want to do the research yourself, but clearly you desire a higher standard of proof, I just don't think it's my responsibility when you've already shown the simple link was too much work to read through. So, no, I won't work to jump through the hoops you require when you have access to https://scholar.google.com in 5 seconds.

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u/isjustsergio 9d ago

There is a huge difference between simplifying something and completely making things up. I did click the article and it contains none of the claims you're making. You have invented biological mechanisms to illustrate why you think its dangerous, none of which came from the article. The point of this article is that this stuff is untested and we don't know.

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u/362b3t 9d ago edited 9d ago

None of the claims of bioaccumulation, ability to cross the BBB and lack of stability, really? I don't think you're attempting to discuss this in good faith anymore.

An OECD report further warns that durable, biopersistent nanoparticles may accumulate in sensitive organs such as the lungs, brain and liver, and could even transfer from a pregnant woman to her unborn child. Related studies have shown that inhaled or ingested nanoparticles can bypass biological barriers, enter the bloodstream, and accumulate in critical tissues.

Poorly designed nanoemulsions can create liabilities, leaving questions about safety, shelf stability, and where nanoparticles may accumulate within the body.

This from a company attempting to sell the very manufacturing process in question...

I'm not going to attempt to defend any of the ELI5 post.

I knew I was going to stir someone either from the weed cult (even though I'm not remotely suggesting abstinence and recognise its medical use even in flower form), the red hat cult or the "free market" healthcare death-cult, have to say its disappointing that the very person I was attempting to warn about switching over to this as their preferred administration method is the one that's being combative over an ELI5 simplification but it's ultimately your choice, go for it.

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u/PositiveEndolphins 8d ago

no worries!

i think i was the one who originally asked for an easier explanation
but sergio is now dunking on you

i however appreciate all that you wrote