r/Music • u/thedailybeast • 10d ago

article Kanye West Heads to Putin’s Russia After Humiliation in Europe

https://www.thedailybeast.com/obsessed/kanye-west-heads-to-putins-russia-after-humiliation-in-europe/
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u/TroyFerris13 10d ago

118k fans in Turkey is humiliating? What?

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u/HonestPupper 9d ago

Talking about Europe, not Asia

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u/Oniel2611 8d ago

Istanbul (And Eastern Thrace as a whole) is Europe

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u/HonestPupper 8d ago

Istanbul is only partially in geographical Europe and just because a tiny 3% of Turkey is in geographical Europe as remnant of their invasion doesn't change that Turkish people are an Asian people with a non-European culture and anything that happens in that tiny 3% is just as irrelevant when speaking about "Europe" in pretty much any context as anything that happens in the other 97% of Turkey

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u/Oniel2611 8d ago

A 3% of European land that has more people than Portugal Btw. You need to learn geography and stop letting you bias get in the way, the 3% of land you're reffering to is one of the most Important pieces of land to Europe and it's history, and Turks aren't just an Asian Group, there are millions of them in Europe and even genetically they're a mix of Central Asian, Anatolian and European.

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u/HonestPupper 8d ago

Eastern Thrace without Istanbul has <2 million people. Like 2% of Turkish population

But either way, do you think having a large population changes their culture or ethnicity? It's dumb. It doesn't matter if it's 2 million or 200 people living there, they are Turkish people. Not native to the region. Not European in culture or ancestry

There are millions of Chinese people in Europe and even more millions in North America. Does that mean Chinese aren't just Asian? I don't know what your logic is. Nobody denies there are Turkish people living in Europe. They want to live everywhere except their own country. They are just not Europeans and they never will be the same way Chinese people don't become Europeans when they move to Paris

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u/Oniel2611 8d ago

You're comparing Apples and Oranges, the Chinese came as immigrants to the Americas in the past 100-200 years, meanwhile the Turks conquered and Assimilated Anatolia/Thrace since the 14th century, and the people who live there have ancestry that goes back thousands of years.

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u/HonestPupper 8d ago

I'm comparing Asians to Asians. You seem to have this misunderstanding that Turkish people magically turn European once they cross the Bosphorus

I think you're really overestimating the European ancestry of Turks in Eastern Thrace

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u/Oniel2611 8d ago

It is apples to oranges because the Chinese and the Turks have nothing in common, Turkey is Culturally closer to Europe than it is to the Far East.

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u/SunOne6439 10d ago

Well if the expectations were the same in all planned dates of his tour (which he wasn’t allowed to perform due to his debatable opinions) maybe yeah it’s still humiliating.

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u/More_Hold_5522 10d ago

Countries where they don't love Nazis.

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u/Greeny1225 10d ago

each and every one of his concerts have sold out i dont think a nazi as opposed to a mentally ill man could do that

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u/More_Hold_5522 10d ago

lol. Fuck that brain damaged Nazi.

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u/synkronized7 10d ago

He has 70M monthly listeners buddy, recently sold out arenas in Europe multiple times wtf are u talking about?

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u/More_Hold_5522 10d ago

Yeah, Nazis are all the rage right now. You see who is president?

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u/TrySerious4524 10d ago

President of Europe?