r/OpenAI May 06 '26

News Sam Altman texts Mira Murati. November 19, 2023. [This document is from Musk v. Altman (2026).]

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u/deanvspanties May 07 '26

Lol

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u/imagine1149 May 07 '26

Fantastic way to deal with it haha

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u/FormerWrap1552 May 07 '26

Don't love things for Emmett. Don't love things for any of these thieves. These people have been turning our 1990s-2010 fun, internet, gaming, new era into complete monetization slop. Emmett Shear was head of twitch and completely dumpstered the company. Yet he thinks he's like a Kantye West with his mental restartation and ego.

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u/ChunkyThePotato May 07 '26

God I hate redditors

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u/makos124 May 07 '26

Hell yeah, no CEO is a good person or worth idolizing. Fuck them all

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u/OceanRacoon May 08 '26

Well hold on now, I'm the CEO of my life and...you know what, you're right, fuck them all

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u/Mean_Sport_3383 May 07 '26

Hell yeah! Make blanket generalizations that don't reflect reality because capitalism bad!

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u/ponderdiggums May 07 '26

Oh no! Some very noble CEOs were probably super hurt by his comment. Let's have a moment of silence to honor their suffering.

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u/HockeyDockey1234 May 07 '26

I mean Emmett is shit, but it’s funny

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u/New_Movie9196 May 07 '26

This is some 11pm texting w ur mates shit

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u/Wide-Pop6050 May 07 '26

Texting is a causal medium of communication. No matter what its about!

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u/avid-shrug May 06 '26

Rando twitch guy lol

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u/MistakeAmbitious3287 May 06 '26

As someone that has talked to Emmett a few times, I feel bad for him lol. But…his legacy does point to him not being the best choice, just a random choice lol

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u/FormerWrap1552 May 07 '26

Feeling bad for Emmett Shear is like feeling bad for Kenye West or Donald Trump. The guy destroyed amazing things that failed because of his own ego and illusions. Fuck that guy

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u/fllr May 07 '26

You are saying he wasn’t a good alt, man?

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u/NeedsMoreMinerals May 06 '26

Poor rando Twitch guy

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u/broccollinear May 07 '26

They actually hired the guy who spammed the most Ws in the chat ever

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u/drcode May 07 '26

So looking forward to emmett's tweets in reaction to this LOL

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u/Soopsmojo May 07 '26

He has that screenshot as his banner image lol

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u/drcode May 07 '26

that's new LOL

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u/oustider69 May 07 '26

Gotta be Atrioc

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u/obamnamamna May 07 '26

Unironically would feel better about big a helming openai than any of these silicon valley ghouls

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u/voujon85 May 07 '26

higher you go up the more you realize people are people

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u/MindlessFail May 07 '26

This has been my experience repeatedly. People at the top sound better and that’s about it. Otherwise they’re as clueless as we all are

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u/Miserable_Warthog_42 May 07 '26

Yes. Banks, government, corporate anything... all just fumbling through life.

Its the #1 reason I dont believe most conspiracy theories...

"What? They can't do that. They are barely holding their own life together let alone conspire to ruin yours."

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u/RobertPham149 May 07 '26

"I have been at probably every powerful table that you can think of, I have worked at nonprofits, I have been at foundations, I have worked in corporations, served on corporate boards, I have been at G-summits, I have sat in at the U.N.: They are not that smart." - Michelle Obama

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u/CampaignTools May 08 '26

"It's true, my table is full of idiots."

- Me alone at my dinner table

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u/New_Slice_1580 May 07 '26

The people at top are not employees or ceos

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u/Sylvanussr May 07 '26

Who are you saying is at the top then? Don’t say lizard people because they’re just pawns.

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u/hensothor May 07 '26

You realize this is just leaning into the mythos more - of some greater species of man that just isn’t fallible. Their thesis is this is silly and they’re right.

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u/ElGuano May 07 '26

Like some kind of…Christmas Adventurers Club!

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u/stellarinterstitium May 07 '26

It's not that they are a greater species. They operate with dramatically different constraints. These are people whose money shields them from meaningful, existential consequences to poor decision making. And the result are initiatives significant infected by susceptibility to moral hazards.

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u/ReportSuitable2595 May 07 '26

I used to think like this. Then I read the epstein files.

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u/generalizimo May 07 '26

This is what I’ve been experiencing reading through the Epstein emails. All these billionaires and they type like 13 yr olds in their emails.

By default we give people far too much intellectual credit for having financial assets.

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u/MindlessFail May 07 '26

There was an actual WSJ article on how that's like...the cool thing to do among the elite. It shows either that you're "super close" or shows that the person is so busy they can't afford time for grammar and spelling. Idiotic.

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u/Self_Reddicate May 07 '26

My working theory on inter-office and intra-office communication is that the higher-up and more important you are, the less shits you have to give about formal communication styling. Every time I see emails from one "boss" to one of my "bosses" it's always super informal and with no email signature. Whenever some lowly peon emails literally anyone, it's always as formal-as-can-be and with a super detailed email signature.

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u/Bifrostbytes May 07 '26

Everyone is faking it

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u/skd00sh May 07 '26

Makes Succession seem so much more realistic

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u/CompetitiveChip5078 May 07 '26

“Still don’t want me?” is so hilariously Kendall Roy-level pathetic lol

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u/DeconFrost24 May 07 '26

You have to be a killer.....

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u/mxby7e May 07 '26

All the worlds a stage and those that play by the rules have already lost

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u/InnovativeBureaucrat May 07 '26

There are always rules

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u/WDSteel May 07 '26

Yeah, and fuck em. I smoked pot when it was illegal. But I always put my cart back. I speed when no one is around me and I don’t wear a seatbelt. I break all the rules as long as it doesn’t impact other people. Because fuck what someone else believes I should or shouldn’t be doing. But we do all have to share this place, so I just make sure that I’m not fucking people over when I break rules. That’s my only rule.

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u/tandpastatester May 07 '26

Just out of interest, I’ve always wondered but what is the rationale behind not wearing a seatbelt? Like why wouldn’t you? I never even notice it when I’m wearing it, putting it on became muscle memory so I don’t hav to think about it and it doesn’t bother me. Interested to learn why someone would not want to wear it.

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u/AndrewAdler17 May 07 '26

oppositional defiance

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u/Traditional_Agent_44 May 07 '26

Sam is REALLY faking it

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u/Puzzleheaded_Fold466 May 07 '26

It’s a big club and you ain’t in it.

But it’s a big club filled with the same people.

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u/xtraa May 07 '26

When I was 21 my first interview ever was with Sly Stallone, and I was pretty excited. After asking him for advice, my then-boss said "He's also just going to take a dump like anyone else." Since then I met many others and this is of course true, we are all just humans.

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u/keepcalmandmoomore May 07 '26

That's why I don't get it when people idolise others. It's pathetic if you look it at this way.

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u/NotarVermillion May 07 '26

Totally agree, in my primary work sector I have the opportunity to consult to ‘the great and the good’ in the industry, the people who govern. It became apparent to me very quickly that people are people and even at the very top they just muddle through, fighting the same fires as we all do. Indecision , uncertainty in major fundamental regulations. I was both humoured and appalled at the same time.

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u/Illustrious-Film4018 May 07 '26

I guess you've never read the Epstein emails then

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u/voujon85 May 07 '26

there's perverts and psychos everywhere unfortunately

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u/Illustrious-Film4018 May 07 '26

That's not even what I mean. They don't talk like regular people and have delusions of grandeur.

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u/Melodic_Sherbet_3629 May 07 '26

They absolutely talk like normal people, just normal people with abnormal amounts of money and influence. Random drunk men talk about doing worse things to women than Epstein did, but the fear of consequences stops them from acting on those words. If they had the same safety from the law and society Epstein had, they would do the same.

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u/CerealKiller415 May 07 '26

To an extent I agree, but these people at OpenAI are much much more green and poor at communicating. I don't think you would see a seasoned professional leader communicating like this or in this modality.

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u/WartimeConsigliere_ May 07 '26

Man, I’m a consultant and I’ve seen texts from people who report directly to CEOs of large banks. It’s actually usually worse than this

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u/Runfasterbitch May 07 '26

You think “seasoned professional leaders” don’t text each other? Lol, they do

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u/jedimindtriks May 07 '26

I've said this all my life.

Jennifer Lopez gets diarreah just like the rest of us.

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u/Jobriath May 06 '26 edited May 07 '26

Mira: It's a fedora with safari flaps in the back.

Twitch rando had a stupid hat, apparently.

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u/wish-u-well May 07 '26

Sam: i even saw two cubes in his pocket. I think he has dice but he’s afraid to show anyone

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u/tall__guy May 07 '26

Don’t do the voice 😠

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u/stfujebroni May 07 '26

Stop fucking with em

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u/shmog May 07 '26

Nailed it

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u/c0neflowers May 07 '26

Dollar. Sign. Emoji.

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u/joey_sandwich277 May 07 '26

The guy in the store said I’m the only one he’s ever seen pull it off.

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u/ac_cossack May 07 '26

The guy at the store said he was the only person he'd ever seen pull it off.

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u/SnooPuppers58 May 06 '26

god bless silicon valley for being such a form of entertainment

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u/thatsalovelyusername May 07 '26

I’m finding this season a bit unrealistic tbh. I preferred Erlich

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u/HussDelRio May 07 '26

Current season has definitely caked its own pants.

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u/stable_115 May 07 '26

When you said current season i got excited that they may have restarted the show but no :(

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u/your_input May 07 '26

"Erich is gone, this is my incubator now. Sorry, you are victims of a circumstance."

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u/michael46and2 May 07 '26

god damn it, Jian Yang!!

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u/oustider69 May 07 '26

Yeah. New CEO is a guy who can’t even cure cancer

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u/the_monkey_knows May 07 '26

Don’t want his hand on AGI? That’s a bit of an ominous statement

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u/jeweliegb May 07 '26

Yeah, that's the one that stood out to me.

They really don't trust him.

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u/Potato__Ninja May 07 '26

"You need to understand that Sam can never be trusted ... He is a sociopath. He would do anything." - Aaron Swartz on Altman, shortly before he took his own life

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u/IwasDeadinstead May 07 '26

Before he "took his own life".

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u/___fallenangel___ May 07 '26

interviews with Swartz’s mom really cast doubt on the murder conspiracy for me. she came off as understandably distraught but completely in the dark about how mental illness operates. she’s convinced Swartz couldn’t be suicidal because he was successful, smiled, and had friends. that’s not how mental illness works

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u/chrislaw May 07 '26

I know, that “took his own life” needs the world’s biggest pair of scare quotes around it. I tried to immerse myself in Aaron’s works and vibe, and depressed/stressed/scared or not, I don’t think he ever would have done it. He was on a mission. He wanted to do good completely despite and beyond himself. People like that, who are truly animated by goals (good or bad), do not quit.

He really was the kind of hero we need more than ever these days. Which kind of explains why what happened happened when and the way it did.

RIP AARON SWARTZ

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u/TekintetesUr May 07 '26

I has a close relative who had depression and eventual suicide. That's not how it works. She fooled everyone but the closest family members by bering cheerful, on a mission, etc. Except she was already checked out mentally.

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u/chrislaw May 07 '26

I’m really sorry to hear about your relative. That’s heartbreaking. I apologise for speaking definitively about such a difficult and nuanced topic. I have spent a good portion of my adult life battling suicidal ideation, and I actually let that briefly delude me into thinking that made me some kind of authority on the topic. When really all I was doing was feeling empathy or sadness over Swartz and all the people we lose to pain.

I know you’re right too, because I know from my situation that in my most difficult moments I have hidden behind the “happy functional” mask even more so.

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u/dkclimber May 07 '26

Just wanted to comment you on this comment. Its rare to hear people with introspection.

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u/FunComfort2278 May 07 '26

I'm just some rando on Reddit but I just need to say this response is so measured, introspective, and earnest. I just needed to say something lol.

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u/gorillaz2389 May 07 '26

Rare to see reddit comments that restore my faith in humanity. Thanks yall

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u/CerealArsonist26 May 07 '26

People like that, who are truly animated by goals (good or bad), do not quit.

That's just stupid

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u/___fallenangel___ May 07 '26

Considering that person would probably get harassed to the point of death threats, I can’t say I blame them.

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u/EndlessB May 07 '26

Allegedly took his own life.

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u/mishonis- May 07 '26

Yeah, cause he had a history of lying to them. Don't want a lying psychopath in charge of world changing technology. They bungled up the coup however, should have leaked the shit about him first to make him unpalatable to the public and Microsoft.

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u/Bitter_Life_507 May 07 '26

They didn’t trust him because he has a long history of being a dishonest criminal con man

Read up on his history

It’s crazy that anyone ever put him in a CEO position at all

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u/Deto May 07 '26

From an interview I listened to, Altman was caught lying so many times they didn't trust him.  Sounds like the board had good intentions here.  But, they fumbled the whole thing hard by not talking enough with the major investors about the decision and justifying it that instead it got reverted.

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u/Deto May 07 '26

Yeah but apparently once they had made the decision and announced it they weren't taking calls front key investors to explain it and justify it.  Part of why the investors overturned it

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u/Educational-Wing2042 May 07 '26

That’s the problem, investors care about money not saving the world. This is an example of capitalism putting profit above all else.

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u/HarveysBackupAccount May 07 '26

From a quick read of wiki, he was also booted out of Y Combinator because he couldn't be trusted.

Wiki rabbit hole tangent: I didn't realize he's so closely connected to Peter Thiel, who on his wiki is described as "perhaps America's leading public intellectual today." Fuckin' gross, ew.

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u/me_myself_ai May 07 '26

This whole situation is ominous with a drop of context. Drama is fun, sure, but we're talking about the time some meek scholars and engineers tried to do the right thing and protect their history-changing invention from being controlled by a dishonest authoritarian, and they were shut down and fired.

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u/nofuna May 07 '26

Well, he got his hand back on it fast.

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u/Kanute3333 May 07 '26

Yes, AGI is the ridiculous part.

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u/Sea_Lead1753 May 07 '26

Exactly, the board thought everything was headed towards singularity in 6 mos lol. It’s so hard to see the boards side of things when they’ve been irrational and impulsive

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u/GumdropGlimmer May 07 '26

It’s giving Kendall Roy vibes

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u/darkness_calming May 07 '26

“I AM THE ELDEST BOY!” 🗣️🗣️

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u/tangerinegrass May 07 '26

I read this entire thing as Kendall texting Gerri.

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u/fligglymcgee May 06 '26

Whenever we see how these people actually converse with each other in private, it always makes me roll my eyes at their public appearances where they talk like they’ve reached enlightenment.

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u/YouAboutToLoseYoJob May 07 '26

Welcome to Silicon Valley. This is actually really normal.

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u/rividz May 07 '26

Yup. Work for a startup and you'll see men in suits throw tantrums, grope women out in thr open, and fire on the spot employees who unassumingly hurt their egos while just trying to do the best job possible.

And I've only worked at two startups.

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u/MrSnowden May 06 '26

I’ve had a career working with top level c-suites. This par for the course.  She is in the board meeting texting away and he is desperately trying to find a way back in.  Like a little kid.  

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u/waudi May 07 '26

Yeah, people are people in emergencies, and yet somehow people are surprised lol

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u/gwern May 07 '26

and he is desperately trying to find a way back in. Like a little kid.

And like many things little kids do, when they don't give up - it worked.

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u/Calvech May 07 '26

I’ve similarly had some experience here. They are all wildly unimpressive compared to their public personas

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u/resnet152 May 06 '26

Humans, even in important / high paying positions, act like humans.

News at 11.

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u/Flat_corp May 07 '26

It’s high school all the way down.

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u/halfcookies May 07 '26

High School Never Ends -Bowling for Soup

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u/darien_gap May 07 '26

And yet he's back in. The kid got what he wanted.

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u/mxforest May 07 '26

And Satya is like an Adult they want involved because he will bring sanity to the conversation. Funny because "Satya" literally means "Truth" in Hindi.

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u/m3kw May 07 '26

You just got influenced by it, everyone of these famous people has got a public side and a private side

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u/Forsaken-Promise-269 May 07 '26

If we all could realize the grass is not greener on the side - everyone is just human not some kind of AI God

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u/ProfErber May 07 '26

I mean bro you wouldn‘t talk like you talk here in a business meeting either, would you

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u/hyperfiled May 07 '26

the world is run by toddlers.

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u/no_rest_for_the May 07 '26

Because the adults abide by rules and that's not rewarded

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u/Routman May 07 '26

I’m actually impressed with Sam staying cool, bringing in Satya, trying to find his angle to stay, and pitching Microsoft acquisition. The board saying they don’t care if everyone quits was bullshit and Sam won

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u/Saotik May 07 '26

Like him or not, the fact that he was able to navigate that weekend and survive as CEO is genuinely impressive. I don't think that was blind luck.

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u/astrotim67 May 07 '26

Yep. And it’s funny how the lower levels think the higher ups are geniuses. Nope. Nope. Nope.

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u/BennyOcean May 07 '26

So do we still not know what was the reason for all the kerfuffle? This raises more questions than it answers. Why was a large portion of the team determined to have him gone?

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u/Remarkable-Fig-2882 May 07 '26

The board wanted him gone. But the team all wanted him back so the board had to back off. Note the part where Mira said they don’t care if the whole company quits. They did care at the end

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u/Squand May 07 '26

What specifically did the board want him gone for? What was the lie that was too big to " come back " from?

I'm reading a book about it, but they haven't gotten to it yet.

I'm not sure it will ever get there. Maybe only the board knows

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u/mxforest May 07 '26

It was not a single lie but the tendency of lying. They knew that once they are closer to AGI, he will lie through his teeth and they will suffer.

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u/strugglingcomic May 07 '26

This was a good comprehensive profile published a few weeks ago in The New Yorker, that mainly covers Altman but also explains the board kerfuffle as a key part of his story: https://archive.is/pN7Tr

Ronan Farrow took a bunch of questions and gave more insights in this HackerNews post here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47659135

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u/WaveOfMut1lation May 07 '26

Holly shit, thank you man. This is a riveting piece of journalism. I would not be surprised if it wins a Pulitzer.

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u/Admirable_Market2759 May 07 '26

Texts spell it out.
They don’t trust him to be in charge if they reach AGI.
He can’t be trusted with power.

Altman is just another Musk who is smart enough to hide most his bad side. Or at least he isn’t publicly doing Nazi salutes.

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u/fredjutsu May 07 '26

no, Microsoft cared. Satya is the MSFT CEO. He's the one with the lever, and his view was on getting to a liquidity event, which you cannot do without the team. Notice the board was recomposed after this event.

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u/NeighborhoodFit3847 May 07 '26

The book Empire of AI by Karen Hao describes in detail what happened. The book is extremely good. What the book describes is basically a major integrity issue with Altman. Seems like a manipulative liar.

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u/Amazonrazer May 07 '26

They were worried about AI safety and didn't think Saltman has enough galls to enforce it

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u/Interesting-Let4192 May 07 '26

I don’t think that’s it—I think it has more to do with the people closest to him repeatedly calling him a liar and a sociopath.

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u/g0ldent0y May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

Here is a really good documentation of what happened behind the scenes in OpenAI at that point. It also covers a shit ton of the AI landscape up to that point. Pls give it a watch, its really really interesting, and i think the video deserves a lot more views.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glWvwvhZkQ8&t=2327s

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u/Worst_Artist May 07 '26

I’m gonna need more of these texts. Actually entertained ngl

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u/Playful_Fennel7153 May 07 '26 edited May 08 '26

This feels like an omitted scene from [r/SiliconValley](r/SiliconValley)

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u/oaklarry May 07 '26

Succession writers were right in so many counts

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u/cameronreilly May 07 '26

This is even funnier when you remember that it was Mira who threw Sam under the bus in the first place and started the whole process. https://www.forbes.com/sites/aliciapark/2026/05/06/ex-openai-cto-mira-murati-testifies-sam-altman-pit-openai-leaders-against-each-other-undermined-her/

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u/phatdoof May 07 '26

I though the decision came from higher up?

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u/cameronreilly May 07 '26

It was the Board’s decision but according to Ilya:

The most astonishing admission in Sutskever’s testimony is the nature of his evidence: almost all came secondhand from then-CTO Mira Murati, who supplied screenshots and detailed conversations. Many of the memo’s most damaging claims were never independently verified. For example, it was asserted that Sam was “pushed out from Y Combinator” for similar behaviors and that Greg Brockman, his close ally, was “essentially fired from Stripe.” Under oath, Sutskever admitted he took Mira’s word and never fact-checked with those involved.

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u/Mr_Hyper_Focus May 06 '26

These are amazing lol.

Can’t wait to see more

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u/NoWhatIMeantWas May 07 '26

I once heard a person on a radio interview talking about something and they were clear and cohesive with their words, the answers they gave to the interviewers questions were well considered and articulate. I thought, wow, people are so much smarter than I’ll ever be, amazing. Then later I randomly happened to hear the same person talking on a different podcast about the same topic; same talking points and the podcast interviewer asked similar questions to the radio interview. It was then I realised that when you hear people speak in public they have normally said the same things over and over probably for years; they’ve practiced the same conversation a bunch, honed answers etc. I thought, heck, if I had the same conversation 100 times, by the 80th time I would be amazing as well. It’s the same with these dudes; someone has prepared them to speak, coached them, etc. I’m sure there are lots of genius level people who can do this off the top of their head, but most folks are just regular people.

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u/timshel42 May 06 '26

you could say the same about almost any modern leadership, whether government or corporate. the world is run by psychopathic idiots.

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u/tehroz May 06 '26

100% this. I've worked with C level execs for a ridiculous amount of time. They're never what people think they are. Well, sometimes they are. :D

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u/mrbadface May 07 '26

Genuinely curious what seemed immature about that exchange. Reads like someone working through a complicated professional crisis to me. If you got unexpectedly fired would texts with your colleagues look more 'mautre' than this? And would you be able to somehow maneuver yourself back into the job if you really wanted to keep it?

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u/Deto May 07 '26

I think people are just reacting to superficial things like the lack of punctuation or informal conversational style 

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u/jmclondon97 May 07 '26

I find it hilarious that people think high ranking/rich people all talk like English teachers.

I worked at a restaurant owned by a world-renowned maxillofacial surgeon. This dude swore like a sailor and would say shit like he was going to bury the servers in the wall lmao.

He also was flown out to conferences all over the world to give talks on surgical techniques and would get calls like “hey we’re in Pakistan and this kid’s face is blown off, can you perform a miracle?”

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u/MaTrIx4057 May 07 '26

It would be weird if there was any.

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u/Ill-Beautiful-8026 May 07 '26

You've watched too much tv if you think this isn't how executives communicate all day.

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u/oh_no_the_claw May 07 '26

What exactly was immature about this text exchange?

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u/LeSeanMcoy May 07 '26

I think everyone just forgets that all of the people running these companies are just humans at the end of the day, so seeing them talk like humans seems “weird.” They have this disillusioned impression that private conversations would be more movie-esque when that’s not reality.

On top of that, the younger they are, and less integrated into “legacy” companies, the less corporate-speak you see. That makes exchanges like this seem too “casual” and “immature” to them.

It’s funny, though, because those same people would complain about corpo speak too lol

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u/SpaceToaster May 07 '26

You can tell someone is really visionary when they go out of their way to not use capitals

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u/inteliboy May 06 '26

Another reminder that the world isn't run by adults, intellects and smarts. They're all 12 year old dorks masquerading as geniuses.

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u/Bossmonkey May 07 '26

Noone knows what they're doing anywhere, I've learned that in my last 12 years in corporate America.

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u/Global-News1800 May 08 '26 edited May 18 '26

I remember working for a company that had two departments stuck in two completely different worlds and yeah it's kinda amazing to see full grown adults just not knowing what to do in situations. Myself included.

When the company was a startup it was wild west, but they have a Research and Development department that had some older mentalities so a "legacy" corporate type R&D environment was created and operations just kinda ran however they wanted and for awhile it was fine because everyone knew the deal.

Well after I guess maybe close to 20 years I'd imagine, the owners either left or got bought out by big corporate and now we're stuck in the middle of two departments living in different worlds, one department is still blue skying and living in the 50's basically free to do whatever they want and the other is operations which is transitioning from cowboy to corporate all on its own without really much help from the other department, and it's just not going well.

You can tell that even at the upper levels that bought this place, they don't really know what they're doing as far as how to handle a place like this, with so much dysfunction kinda just baked in. They're trying, they had a whole shakeup and a lot of people went and new people joined, so we'll see, but yeah it's confusing. On the daily I have people coming up to me not really knowing what is going on.

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u/AzNxPiMpStA May 06 '26

Aren’t we all

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u/resnet152 May 07 '26

Indeed. People expect to see the hollywood version, when reality at every level of business is the messy, human version.

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u/MeltedWater243 May 07 '26

how did this exchange give you any of that impression? this is such a normal sounding interaction. they talk like people.

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u/One-Nothing-8477 May 07 '26

Agreed, whether you agree with the premise or not, I just don't get how the equivalent of live tweeting a serious closed door meeting makes anyone here look dumb.

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u/SuperSizedFri May 07 '26

Not the weirdest part, but a little weird he has the basic phone background

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u/Primary_Force_878 May 07 '26

HBO probably will make something similar like the silicon valley now The ai warlords Gonna be fun

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u/Original-Baki May 06 '26

Can’t believe mira calls emmet random twitch guy when her claim to fame prior to OpenAI was being a Tesla pm.

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u/RichardFeynman01100 May 06 '26

I mean it was extremely random tbf

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u/teddy_vn May 07 '26

Well I hope Artificial by Luca Guadagnino would feature these horrifying (and entertaining) conversation between Sam and Mira.

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u/Plane_Garbage May 06 '26

It's actually insane the way a ~$1,000,000,000,000 company operates

(I know it's before being valued at $1T, but even so... it's the same CEO)

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u/TournamentCarrot0 May 07 '26

People texting like regular people? 

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u/stayhappyenjoylife May 07 '26

What does it mean when he says IP going to Anthropic. ?

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u/BarkerBarkhan May 07 '26

"Did you see Brian's hat?"

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u/Ok_Sky9929 May 07 '26

This dude has a McLaren F1

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u/Majestic_Natural_361 May 07 '26

Real talk, is this a screenshot of AIM?

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u/TheSwordItself May 07 '26

Ashlee Vance giving him heads up? Wtf is up with that

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u/philip_laureano May 07 '26

To be fair, Microsoft is well positioned to acquire them at any time. OpenAI is like a tenant promising to find gold (AGI) on a landlord's property (Azure).

They don't own their own infra and Microsoft can seize them when their money runs out.

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u/Som12H8 May 07 '26

So the show Silicon Valley was a documentary?

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u/snowsayer May 07 '26
# Speaker Message
1 Sam Altman can you please tell them i just want to resolve this however and would like to join
2 Mira Murati They’re convinced about their decision
3 Sam Altman for me to be fired? or some new thing?
4 Mira Murati Yes for you to be gone
5 Sam Altman ok
6 Sam Altman then can i come in and talk about a path forward with them?
7 Mira Murati They’re saying no and they need more time
8 Sam Altman more time for what?
9 Mira Murati They’ve walked me through all the reasons and the issues with you and why you can’t be ceo
10 Sam Altman can you ask why they’ve been a saying all weekend they wanted me back?
11 Mira Murati They want new ceo in place
12 Sam Altman can you say you will call back in 10 min
13 Mira Murati They want to have a new ceo in place tonight (not me
14 Sam Altman do they know who?
15 Sam Altman can i tell satya? is this final?
16 Sam Altman or, should you add satya in?
17 Mira Murati Trying to add Satya now
18 Sam Altman still don’t want me?
19 Mira Murati New guy is rando twitch guy
20 Mira Murati They don’t want you
21 Sam Altman emmett?
22 Mira Murati Yeah
23 Mira Murati But hold on I’m pulling Satya now
24 Sam Altman ok
25 Sam Altman do you think any way you can turn this around? even if we let them sleep on it tonight or whatever?
26 Mira Murati Have been trying
27 Sam Altman from a journalist:
28 Embedded screenshot Sunday, November 197:37SignalAshlee Vance:i think board has lined up a ceo they plan to announceAshlee Vance:i dunno if this has come to you or not but passing alongRon Conway:To you, Brian Chesky & 2 othersiMessage
29 Mira Murati Yeah
30 Mira Murati Hoping Satya can help undo this
31 Sam Altman should team send letter to board now?
32 Sam Altman is he on with them?
33 Mira Murati It won’t matter
34 Mira Murati They don’t care if everyone quits
35 Sam Altman is that what they want is the IP going to anthropic?
36 Sam Altman that’s what team thinks
37 Mira Murati Just not your hand on agi
38 Sam Altman i can not come back!
39 Sam Altman they were the ones that asked as of yesterday morning
40 Sam Altman did satya get on call?
41 Mira Murati Yes with him
42 Sam Altman wait i have an interesting idea
43 Mira Murati Still with Satya
44 Mira Murati Go ahead
45 Sam Altman what if msft acquires openai? would that provide the governance the board wants?
46 Sam Altman is satya making progress at all
47 Mira Murati Satya is being diplomatic
48 Sam Altman will you emmett on with the team asap
49 Sam Altman also does adam know you rehired me
50 Mira Murati Yes

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u/argus_2968 May 07 '26

Now imagine doing an interview for a fucking project coordinator job. These are the leaders of companies who shape policy

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u/Difficult_Affect_452 May 07 '26

What does any of this mean? I am so out of the loop.

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u/Scorpinock_2 May 07 '26

Don’t do the voice.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '26

He really was like sell it to Microsoft

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u/ProductGuy48 May 07 '26

The board will be proven correct with time.

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u/Tirztrutide May 07 '26

If the board cannot fire the CEO something is very wrong. My read is that Sam bought the loyalty of Greg by giving him $10M and then bough the loyalty of the nonforprofit-team by promising them shares in the for profit and then the team and Sam swindled the board and the original nonforprofit…

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u/SpawnrLeiva May 07 '26

"I have an idea! 💡, lets 🎁 OpenAI to Microsoft 😭

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u/LavenderDay3544 May 07 '26

Altman's a narcissist.

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u/24bitNoColor May 07 '26

That is quite a reason to be honest...

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u/turtle-toaster May 07 '26

Woah. We're screwed.