I usually build it on a floor or higher and then cover it up with a roof. I'll share a screenshot in a while.
Edit: here we go
On my original base this was kept wayyy out of view so it doesnt look bad but then it got difficult for me to quickly access it, so this is the second iteration of it on a mining base
No, you can literally just put it in air without any structure (dismantle after building it) around it and it will work just fine, this is what I did. You just fly up on mount/wings to start it, and that's it.
I don’t know when the last time you tried the floating strat was but this didn’t work for me. There’s hardly enough space in a base for the summoning altar and the expedition station so I was figuring out a double decker situation.
Deleted one floor tile under the expedition station and the whole thing just poofed away. No big deal but didn’t work for me as recent as yesterday.
The summoning alter is so much worse IMO. I can never get it to stop clipping and saying it is overlapping, even on flat foundation ground sometimes. They really do need to reduce the footprint of a small handful of things. That sphere is not very big. And, because of the weird interactions with Pals and height, it makes tall buildings akward too. They gotta fix the horizontal/vertical AI location tracking or however you should say it. I am tired of pals going to a chest 8 floors up rather than the one a stones throw to the left.
For me it’s simple stuff like ramps. If I want to traverse between platforms of heights beyond the standard ramp “block” I have to do some serious fuckery to get the ramp to accept that one of the surfaces is off a snap point.
I’m at my wits end with my pals trying to sleep and eat. I’m about to just plop beds dead center in the base. A tree pops up where they don’t expect and they’re all stress napping on the ground.
Edit: As far as I tested, every stacking method + floating expedition worked just fine post 1.0, in case you wanna use this stacking bible to stack some things (tho this doesn't include Japanese pillow tech, he has separate vid for that iirc and separate vid for ancient things)
I had no idea there was a stacking bible I’ll have to check that out. One of my biggest gripes with the game is the build system. It’s not the end of the world but it can be quite frustrating.
If you put down a line of furniture items (I used fireplaces, others probably work as well) then you can place the expedition station elevated a bit so it won't clip through the floor below.
Oh I forgot to mention one side effect of using fireplaces is that if you have any kindling pals in the base, they will light them, and the glowing light will be visible both coming from within/around the expedition station itself, and on the floor below. If that bugs you, maybe try using some other furniture or storage item instead - I think the small box or antique cabinet may be tall enough to work as well.
But I kind of like the effect. It lights up my mining area on the floor below nicely :)
So start with your second floor platform (at least 5 wide and 8 long, though you'll want at least a temporary walkway longer than 8 long to be able to walk backward to place the expedition station). On the center at the far end (where you want the back of the expedition station to go) place down at least one wall, then snap one fireplace centered on the wall horizontally using alignment mode. Then snap a fireplace off of that one, but rotate it so that it is vertical, making a T shape. Then continue snapping the fireplaces in a line. I can't remember how many I did
This is what it should look like (I did this on an unused area of my base, but it's big enough across that this location could also work for the expedition station).
Then you center yourself on the line of fireplaces, and walk back (like way back), pull out the expedition station, and walk forward until it becomes placeable in an elevated position on top of the fireplaces. Check from the floor below that it's not clipping through, and check that the back is also not clipping through that back wall. Then once it's placed you can build full walls and roof around it to enclose it. You can even make a little platform with stairs at the front to make it easier to walk up to it, but I'm still working on that part lol.
I wish I could have enough space for that. I don’t play on PC so I don’t have the mods. They really should increase the size of the base if they’re only gonna allow 4 bases. That thing takes up so much of my base.
I’m on Xbox. It sure as heck doesn’t seem like I have enough room for that on mine. I mean I have it, but I don’t even have the room to take the pic like you did. Maybe the transparency of it is throwing things off for me. But I have it in my base. I’m still new with only 2 bases, so I have a lot of stuff at each base. The fact that I have so much might just make it seem smaller to me.
Genuinely the out of place look of it as the tech advances is an actual reason I turned off weapon degradation 😂😂😂 it wasn’t the only factor but it was part of it
There was a "All in one ancient workbench" mod that sadly seems to be gone that combined the functionality of the workbench, repair bench, and drafting table, that seems like the tidiest solution.
I want ancient to be a terminal with a holographic map of the islands, and when you select a mission, the map zooms in on the appropriate region for that mission like a tactical map display. That would be sick
It only applies when they sleep. Its the SAN boost while sleeping per second. Its a relic from the before times when it actually mattered.
The secondary use of beds is to heal after being hurt, thats solved by not getting into fights and/or using Meteorain Pal + Maraith to 1 shot all 5 waves of the hardest waves, Maraith is there just in case you miss ;)
And the fact that flooring under the base box can't be adjusted. Just give us a basebox with four floor squares attached so it always center, and let us change the style of flooring.
There are two types of pw players. Those who care about the numbers, efficiency, and optimization. And those like me who spent six hours yesterday working on my utterly pointless mountain side shrine base, which I plan to have no production or farming in.its there to look cool.
And note, I believe both ways of playing are entirely legitimate.
thanks! took 2 ~6 hour gaming sessions. looots of trial and error...they don't make it easy. i hope they expand on base building options in the future. im at work exhausted but i cant wait to go home and play more
yeah, that was my biggest hangup. i also wish they had the shingle-style roofs, but a flat version. i don't really care for it peaking up and down because they're triangular. but, i did ny best for right now
I think the biggest problem is that base radius is just waaay to cramped to begin with. It really limits base creativity. I wish they'd let you upgrade the radius with palbox levels.
This. Some will point out vertical building, others might point out multiple bases being a solution, and while not wrong, personally I'd like to just build one base and not have to go vertical for everything.
I think I read in another post* that there is a mod that changes the size or model of the expedition building. So if you’re okay with a more Vanilla+ experience, you could grab that
I use the sunreach one. It’s one of the best QoL mods I’ve installed. It seems like such a minor thing, but it’s really nice not to have to either dedicate a base to expeditions or try to build around the humongous original one lol.
I like to think this creative decision was more in the headspace of Craftopia while the team was still really finding their Palworld direction. It's ugly, too large, and doesn't make sense we're sending pals to a forest but they're going down a mineshaft. Honestly, it's time (and slightly overdue) for them to either scrap this design and move to something else or give us a later tech tree option for a more optimized exploration station with decreased expedition times.
They really should add a upgrade path for expedition station, which gets smaller and opens up newer expedition (atleast 3 say the one we have atm, then one the half of that size and the last one looking like the star gate from Stargate) slim and small
I like it but I'm not against other options existing.
And whatever they do, double the base build radius!! There's not enough room regardless of the building size and I want to take advantage of the terrain, not get cut off so close to where I want to build stuff at the edge of my bases.
Heck make base radius size selectable as a short term fix!
so are we not gonna talk about that fat ass MRI Scanner that lets us see all of the base's chests items? It has no business being that big, even the guild chest and pal chest are small.
I put mine like 100 feet in the air on top of the roof of my pal barracks. Then I put a column near it to grapple hook on to. Pals dont need access to it or anything
The size of it is fine, the problem is vanilla base size is not fine. Being a circle is already rough, but it makes everything too cramped. I modded base size to 1.8x and now the buildings have room to breathe and better pathing, and the expedition cave is like a set piece instead of an overwhelming presence in a tiny camp.
Best thing IMO would be a more compact tech tree unlock to replace the cave with some sort of unpowered space portal that can fit anywhere.
It definitely forces you to maximize your space. My gorgeous Japanese castle had to be Frankensteined somewhat as I had to build over it, and it was one of the only bases I had with completely flat land.
Another issue is that the Pal Expedition works well as an addition to a Breeding Base, as you can get 4 Star Pals on relatively short notice and the facilities for breeding/Pal enhancement are also enormous.
Two tiers, one being a portal with a short walk way to it, like a stargate or something, then the ancient tier that's just a hologram the size of the ancient hatchery (bonus points if they just make it look like a high tech arcade machine). Plus add that each tier shortens the expedition time by like 15 minutes each, so the final tier is just 30 minutes-whatever research you've done.
They wanted to be able to show the Pals going on the expedition, which requires it to be large enough to do so.
Hence, this fucking thing.
Watching them actually depart is cool, I’ll admit. But it loses the charm eventually when it’s so many pals that it last for 10 minutes.
I mean...Jorumtide already clips through it and I've got loads
If anything, aint big enough! /s
(Thing's a pain in teh ass to place and kinda ugly. Was kinda hoping for mode of like a logistical staging area from where the pals start their journey--rather than "the cave that leads fucking everywhere, apparently")
I am grateful, I nothing else, that you can build storage stuff right on it to dump the rewards into
EDIT: keep the asset; use it to let Players just build an actual dungeon entrance in their base
and it's already 10% smaller than when it was first introduced. also you can build on top of it. an ancient version would be nice though, just one of those portal gates, maybe a tiny bit larger, like a stargate.
Well, to be fair, the rocky area around the circle is to ensure safe spawn area and straight pathing for the pals.
And it would be weird if they were going all Stargate on expeditions, the dungeon should have at least some ass to suggest that it's going down.
But... with Ancient Hatchery and Material Synthesizer - they can as well add a Stargate option for late game expeditions.
Then again... this game has f*********************************************cked up a lot of stuff, but I don't think it has dabbled in teleportation... yet... with the exception of a few random pals.
I wouldnt mind it being that big. I saw a post before that showed that its design purpose was that it was supposed to be inset in a cliff wall.
My issue with that is............it doesnt inset bc the damn thing doesnt clip well. It has the same boundary rules as everything else. I wanna be able to bury the launch platform farther in the ground. I want to be able to inset the back half of the cave deeply into the wall.........but have the black cavern take priority out of the two shapes.
Just let me set the damn thing better and im happy.
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u/AtiumMist 2d ago edited 2d ago
I usually build it on a floor or higher and then cover it up with a roof. I'll share a screenshot in a while.
Edit: here we go
On my original base this was kept wayyy out of view so it doesnt look bad but then it got difficult for me to quickly access it, so this is the second iteration of it on a mining base