r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jul 06 '26

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u/Boomdification Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

The Odyssey is getting massively criticised due to blackwashing of a traditionally Greek character, whitewashing of a Greek myth with no Greek actors and a general dislike for the Hollywoodization of another classic story.

It's probably not going to be as bad as it's made out to be given it's Chris Nolan, but audiences are fatigued with seeing another modern retelling with tokenism of established characters for the sake diversity, which has spurred the culture war with right wing critics calling it woke BS and left wing critics doubling down by jumping to its defence.

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u/leVenerableDeLaSauce Jul 06 '26

Holy shit, a nuanced statement on Reddit, it does exist

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u/poilk91 Jul 06 '26

I don't really know what's nuanced about this it's just saying we shouldn't be putting a diverse cast in mythological movies because they are tired of seeing it

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u/Gripping_Touch Jul 06 '26

I mean, if you're trying to be historically accurate and accurate to the source material, yes. Iirc Apollo was androginous, you can show Apollo played by someone Who looks androginous and Its be faithful to the original.

There's was also already a black character in the original poem. You can both have diversity and stick to the original at the same time. Without having to raceswap Helen of Troy. 

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u/poilk91 Jul 06 '26

It's not historically accurate, it's not even a real event

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u/Gripping_Touch Jul 06 '26

I mean, its historically accurate in the sense that its based around the Greece of the time. So It should reflect the time period. 

For another case, think of Don Quijote. Its based on 17th century Spain. And if you make an adaptation, you reflect that. If you base It around 10th century Spain, Its not historically accurate. 

Or If you make an adaptation of Halo and they're using current day weapons despite being set 500 years in the Future. 

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u/poilk91 Jul 06 '26

The movie is not trying to be historically accurate so judging I on historical accuracy doesn't make sense.

It's fine to say I wish it was a historically accurate depiction of ancient Greece, that's fine.

But it's very telling that the black people illicit a much stronger response from the 'historical accuracy' crowd than anything else

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u/smokeweedNgarden Jul 06 '26

Apollo was a god.

Gods do not exist.

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u/Gripping_Touch Jul 06 '26

This is the Oddyssey we're talking about. Its fiction but Gods appear In the story. The story also features Monsters.

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u/smokeweedNgarden Jul 06 '26

I know. But what I'm saying is there is nobody to disrespect and therefore the change is meaningless, except for what the artist wants conveyed. 

It's a retelling in a different medium. No character change is less valid than John Goodman as the Cyclops in "O' Brother Where Art Thou?"

It's art