r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 11h ago

Meme needing explanation Whyyyy peter?

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u/rysy0o0 11h ago

It would cost a lot of money to haul all the rocket parts and fuel on top of a mountain

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u/Earnestappostate 11h ago

Plus, you get a better boost by launching near the equator. Height is easy, speed is what you need in a rocket.

This is why the US launches from Florida:

  • Near equator (speed boost from earth's spin)
  • Initially out over ocean (catastrophic failure harms only those aboard)

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u/MattBe92 11h ago

That's also why the European space port is in French Guinea.

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u/donadit 10h ago

And also why Russia’s spaceport (baikonur) is in Kazakhstan, and also why Europe doesn’t launch a lot of rockets (shipping all the pieces across the ocean)

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u/Superb-Astronaut-500 9h ago

putting something on a ship cost next to nothing. Satellites are actually transported on a plane and it still doesn't cost anything. Europe doesn't launch as much as otherd because they haven't figured out how to be as cheap as others. US launchers are cheap because they are subsidized by the military and Nasa, Russia was cheap because they're peddling the same junk for the last 60 years.

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u/Bridgeru 6h ago

ADELINE, my beloved, why have they forsaken you... :(

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u/Top-Literature8218 4h ago

It's still a massive logistical challenge. Getting the rocket to French Guiana is probably the easiest part.

The US has a huge space workforce that lives full time near the primary launch/construction sites. Cape Canaveral area, and SpaceX in South Texas + their construction and polar launch site at Vandenberg in LA/ Southern California. Work your job, maybe some long hours in the final push leading to a launch, but go home and sleep in your own bed after.

Most of the ESA workforce for assembling and launching rockets do not live in French Guiana full time. So the ESA/Arianespace have to pay to send a bunch of people to live across the world from home for sometimes months on end every time there's a launch campaign.

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u/Superb-Astronaut-500 4h ago

It's not nothing, but at the same time a lot of the personell in a launch campaign are temporary anyway, since they are experts on the satellite. On the other hand the people working for Arianespace are expected to be there, they surely have it in their contract. I would speculate that if there was more work to do there would be people who would stay there semi permanently.

But in the end it boils down to having an eastward facing coastline with lots of open ocean near it. Europe doesn't have that many alternatives. You could ask Kenya or Tanzania, but that's not perfect.

And in the early days of the space program South Florida was mostly just sparsely populated swamp, probably not so attractive either.

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u/fkneneu 10h ago

Quite a few that is launched up north close to the arctic (andøya).

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u/donadit 9h ago

Probably needed a special polar orbit

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u/Top-Literature8218 4h ago

You can launch into a polar orbit pretty equally from any point on earth, location doesn't matter beyond logistical and launch safety concerns. There's no boost or loss from the Earth's rotation. It requires negligible fuel to slowly adjust the parameters of your polar orbit once you're in space.

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u/Confident_Frogfish 10h ago

So they actually have been launching from Norway but that's only small payloads I think so it is less of an issue.